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How Much "Sin" Are We Born With?

Dragonfly

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Exactly how much "sin" are we born with?
A tiny bit? A lot?
Enough to send us to Hell if we die soon after birth?
Not enough to really matter?
Do different newborns have different amounts of sin, or is all dished out equally at birth?
If absolutely everyone has it from birth, in equal amounts, isn't it pretty much nullified by design at that point?

Wouldn't "Jesus dying for our sins" pretty much erase the "sin" you were born with?
Birth sin would surely be the most reasonable, and easiest sin to erase with a sacrifice.


Lets be real here.
The whole concept of all babies being born with "sin" because of something that (theoretically) happened 6000-ish years ago, with one person, is so ludicrously insane it hurts.
So surely the "dying for our sins" would erase that bit of idiocy wouldn't it?
 
https://www.compellingtruth.org/born-sinners.html

We are all born sinners. From the moment we enter this world until our final breath, we have a sinful nature. It does not matter whether one is a child or an adult, a "good" person or a "bad" one, all of us are sinners. To sin is to fall short of God's perfect standards or to go against His laws. All humans have a natural tendency to go against the things of God, as is made obvious in something as small as our natural tendency toward selfishness. Due to our sin, we are all separated from God and deserving of His punishment (Romans 3:23; 6:23; Ephesians 2:1–5).
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From you know, a loving and caring "god".
 
Dragonfly said:
Exactly how much "sin" are we born with?
A tiny bit? A lot?
Enough to send us to Hell if we die soon after birth?
Not enough to really matter?
Do different newborns have different amounts of sin, or is all dished out equally at birth?
If absolutely everyone has it from birth, in equal amounts, isn't it pretty much nullified by design at that point?

Wouldn't "Jesus dying for our sins" pretty much erase the "sin" you were born with?
Birth sin would surely be the most reasonable, and easiest sin to erase with a sacrifice.


Lets be real here.
The whole concept of all babies being born with "sin" because of something that (theoretically) happened 6000-ish years ago, with one person, is so ludicrously insane it hurts.
So surely the "dying for our sins" would erase that bit of idiocy wouldn't it?
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I gave up religion more than 50 years ago when I realized it was a crutch for people who had a need to believe there was something out there greater than themselves.

But I have to ask...can anyone who has held a newborn baby that just came out of it's mother's womb believe that baby has sinned? I don't see how. Yes, that baby is demanding. That baby is demanding that someone help it survive because it is incapable of surviving on its own. But the desire for survival isn't a sin.

The sin comes later when that baby grows into a person who makes their own decisions whether to sin or not.
 
Mycroft said:
I gave up religion more than 50 years ago when I realized it was a crutch for people who had a need to believe there was something out there greater than themselves.
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You dont think that there is something out there greater than yourself? The Universe is not greater than yourself?

LOL. I dont give a crap about religion, but I dont ever have the thought that there is nothing out there greater than myself. There pretty obviously is a whole lot greater than myself.
 
You will always be fond of me. I represent to you all the sins you never had the courage to commit.
— Oscar Wilde

I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints.
— Billy Joel

"Some rise by sin, and some by virtue fall."
- William Shakespeare

“Whoever drinks beer, he is quick to sleep; whoever sleeps long, does not sin; whoever does not sin, enters Heaven! Thus, let us drink beer!”
― Martin Luther

“I've never seen such a bunch of apple-eaters.”
― J.D. Salinger, Nine Stories
 
PeacefulWarrior said:
You dont think that there is something out there greater than yourself? The Universe is not greater than yourself?
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No. I have never needed a crutch.

Whatever happened to me...or will happen to me...is not because of "something greater than me".

PeacefulWarrior said:
LOL. I dont give a crap about religion, but I dont ever have the thought that there is nothing out there greater than myself. There pretty obviously is a whole lot greater than myself.
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Dragonfly said:
Exactly how much "sin" are we born with?
A tiny bit? A lot?
Enough to send us to Hell if we die soon after birth?
Not enough to really matter?
Do different newborns have different amounts of sin, or is all dished out equally at birth?
If absolutely everyone has it from birth, in equal amounts, isn't it pretty much nullified by design at that point?

Wouldn't "Jesus dying for our sins" pretty much erase the "sin" you were born with?
Birth sin would surely be the most reasonable, and easiest sin to erase with a sacrifice.


Lets be real here.
The whole concept of all babies being born with "sin" because of something that (theoretically) happened 6000-ish years ago, with one person, is so ludicrously insane it hurts.
So surely the "dying for our sins" would erase that bit of idiocy wouldn't it?
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None.
 
Mycroft said:
can anyone who has held a newborn baby that just came out of it's mother's womb believe that baby has sinned?
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The thought of it is pure insanity.

Also don't forget that the newborn had absolutely no choice in it's presence on this Earth.
That newborn is the purest and most definitive definition of "sinless" possible.
 
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Dragonfly said:
Guess it’s more important to work on that post count than to actually address the OP.
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I was responding to another post/poster...not you...
 
Sticky wicket for a religion to preach we are born with original sin and then oppose abortion because it kills “innocent” babies.
 
Argent said:
Sticky wicket for a religion to preach we are born with original sin and then oppose abortion because it kills “innocent” babies.
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Yeah, that's called "playing God"...only He has that right...
 
Dragonfly said:
Oh stop.

Saving a life is "playing god" too isn't it?

God gave man cancer.
Man created chemotherapy along with radiation to kill the cancer and save the life.
Man played god.
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Oh stop...correction...sin/imperfection gave you cancer...
 
Elora said:
Yeah, that's called "playing God"...only He has that right...
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So then every doctor on this planet plays god by intervening with medical care regardless of the condition which means believers should not ever see a doctor under any circumstance because god is the only one with the right to decide an outcome. Likewise every believer who sees a doctor plays god by attempting to circumvent a decision that only their god has the right to make.
 
Argent said:
So then every doctor on this planet plays god by intervening with medical care regardless of the condition which means believers should not ever see a doctor under any circumstance because god is the only one with the right to decide an outcome. Likewise every believer who sees a doctor plays god by attempting to circumvent a decision that only their god has the right to make.
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Only God has the right to take a life...pay attention...
 
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