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How many firearm owners belong to a well regulated militia?

If you think you don't need at least machine guns and much more to protect yourself against a potentially tyrannical modern government, you are more uninformed about the modern military than I thought.

What you are thinking seems confused.
Oh look, a person who has zero experience and zero knowledge again talking out his butt.


It only seems that way to you because you are completely clueless on this topic. And you prove that over and over.
 
I don't know about you specifically, but it's true that the AR15 has gained a purpose now far beyond just any utilitarian considerations (which are indeed few). It has become a symbol of pi$$ing off and "owning" the libs- much like the Confederate flag. It's just that they are really hurting themselves with this one.

Your training to tell anyone about the usefulness of an AR on a battlefield is hilarious.

And it’s clear that deep down even you know it. It is Abby to run away farm answering questions about it.
 
yes

could have used a uhaul truck to plow into them.

Since we began tracking this data, which was in 1986, the US has added over 270 million firearms while the homicide rate dropped by 40%. There is simply no correlation between firearms are homicides or violent crime.
No it could not have been a u-haul. No correlation? Firearms have been solely responsible for mass SHOOTINGS.
 
I used to think more about this phrase and it's application but one does not necessarily lead to the other. IOW, the right to arms does not mean only for a well regulated militia. It is a reason for creating the right, but "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" really stands on it's own. SCOTUS has agreed, I think more than once.

There are other countries where citizens have gun rights, but the USA is unique in it's level of gun fetish.
The left is always looking for an out on the gun issue. I wish they were half as concerned when it comes to crime.
 
Who is your militia regulated by?

Supreme Court's 2008 Heller
Writing for the majority in the 5-4 decision, Justice Antonin Scalia, now deceased, said that the Second Amendment "protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home."

Referring to the so-called militia clause, Scalia added that it "announces a purpose, but does not limit or expand the scope" of individual ownership.



New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen
 
The government runs regulated militia, according to the Militia Acts. Regulated militia was replaced by the National Guard, and Militia Acts by the Selective Service System.

State militia was replaced by the police, etc.
 
Methinks you doth protest your innocence too much...If it looks like...
You get the idea...
Yet you are protesting against what I posted, how rich is that? :rolleyes:
 
Supreme Court's 2008 Heller
Writing for the majority in the 5-4 decision, Justice Antonin Scalia, now deceased, said that the Second Amendment "protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home."

Referring to the so-called militia clause, Scalia added that it "announces a purpose, but does not limit or expand the scope" of individual ownership.



New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen
He is one man with one opinion. It seems like the militia clause has everyone stumped as to its meaning. If it has nothing to do with the rest of the second amendment, why is it even mentioned?
 
That doesn't make you any kind of expert. I can bet you nurses clean more bedpans than a surgeon. That doesn't mean I trust them with the big decisions more than the doctor.



So I am clueless about military weapons, and so is a 4 star general. Only you know. OK sure.

I can quote you other folks who work with weapons and their consequences for a living. But how much you wanna bet you will find a way to dismiss all these experts and tell me how you know more than all of them because you have "put more rounds down range", as if that means anything.

Nothing is completely useless on a battlefield I guess, even a knife. Heck I would take a mail opener if that's all that was available. But given the choice, I would take the M16 over an AR or a knife. So would McChrystal. But not you. Puzzling.

Not sure why you think the AR is better. Makes no sense. The only explanation is that you like the symbolism for which it stands. Utility-wise on an actual battlefield, the best I can say for it is that I guess it's better than nothing.
Interesting how you quoted him talking using his use of the M4/16 to imply expertise. I have more use but yet you claim that doesn’t make me an expert. Wonder why you have the double standard.

More lies. I never claimed the 4 star is clueless on military weapons. Why do t you try and quote me doing do. Or admit you lied. Now it is very clear you are clueless.

Yes plenty of the crap you have posted in the past is dishonest propaganda that easily is discredited. So if you post the same bs it will probably get destroyed again.

And again more lies from you. I never claimed the AR is better then the M16 or that I would take an AR over a m16.
Why do you think lying is an effective tactic.

That said the only main difference is auto vs semiautomatic. Automatic fire is rarely used and when used it is very ineffective in pretty much all scenarios. So having an AR and not a M16 would matter very little.
This is something you would understand if you had a clue what you are talking about.


And again you run away from answering questions. Do you think the reason you do so isn’t obvious
 
of course it could have

no

irrelevant. we are talking about the homicide rate.
I am talking about gun deaths and access to guns. Welcome to the conversation, you are trying to ignore gins all together and it is just dumb for you you to do so.
 
I am talking about gun deaths and access to guns.
I know. It's irrelevant.
Welcome to the conversation, you are trying to ignore gins all together and it is just dumb for you you to do so.
No, I'm pointing out guns are irrelevant to homicide rates. Since we began tracking that data, which was 1986, firearms increased by over 270 million while the homicide rate was cut by 40%. There is simply no correlation between firearms and homicide rates.
 
I know. It's irrelevant.

No, I'm pointing out guns are irrelevant to homicide rates. Since we began tracking that data, which was 1986, firearms increased by over 270 million while the homicide rate was cut by 40%. There is simply no correlation between firearms and homicide rates.
So you’re cool with gun deaths because of stats? Head in the sand?
 
So you’re cool with gun deaths because of stats? Head in the sand?
No, i'm refuting the repeatedly bleated premise of "more guns = more deaths". This is demonstrably false.
 
No, i'm refuting the repeatedly bleated premise of "more guns = more deaths". This is demonstrably false.
Never said that either, there are way too many guns already in the US. Make owner’s understand it is a true responsibility and have them continual training. Not much to ask.
 
Never said that either, there are way too many guns already in the US. Make owner’s understand it is a true responsibility and have them continual training. Not much to ask.
You can't require training to exercise a right. That is unconstitutional.
 
but not required to train.

what is it you think well regulated means, and why do you think it applies to individual gun owners?
The Heller decision was BS lead by the NRA. It needs to go.
 
The Heller decision was BS lead by the NRA. It needs to go.
Heller was decided the only way it could possibly be decided, based on the wording of the constitution.
 
Heller was decided the only way it could possibly be decided, based on the wording of the constitution.
Not at all I disagree.
 
No, i'm refuting the repeatedly bleated premise of "more guns = more deaths". This is demonstrably false.
de·mon·stra·bly
adverb
in a way that is clearly apparent or capable of being logically proved.

Where are the studies that demonstrate your claim? I've yet to see anyone make the same claim as you just did substantiate it in any way, shape or form with qualified research based on logic. :unsure:
 
Heller was decided the only way it could possibly be decided, based on the wording of the constitution.
Then explain the dissenting opinions. If it was the only way it could be decided it would have been a unanimous decision, no?☮️
 
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