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How likely is it that Roe v. Wade will be overturned by next year?

How likely is it that Roe v. Wade will be overturned by next year?


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The poor women in those states will be punished. That’s the net effect.

The only time anyone will be punished - generally - is if they break the law.

There is no such thing as pro life. Just pro-punishment.

:) That's no better (or correct) than the sadly common pro-life argument that people who are pro-choice aren't really pro-choice, they are pro-infanticide. It assumes that others secretly agree with you, and indicates a distinct lack of empathy and understanding.
 
Talking about alternatives to abortion should always be on the table. I've never visited a Planned Parenthood facility but as I understood it it's not all about abortion. Isn't it also about giving women a chance to make an informed decision?

Once a woman is pregnant, obviously the choice is more complicated. That's why it seems better to avoid that end point rather than having to address it after the fact.
Agreed. Let's include men's responsibility in here somewhere, though, too.
 
Any fed restrictions and the GOP will be wrecked. This is 3rd rail stuff.
I hope so. My worry is: Seems like the GOP continuously tries to put/keep women in a UDB (Unfair Disadvantage Box) year after year, law after law. I ponder what great Scientists, Leaders, medical break-throughs and many other actions that ALL of us have lost because we're only using about 1/2 of the population to make this a better world. :( :(
True, some women have been able to climb out of the proverbial box and do some real good for this earth but I'm sure, as you know, it ain't enough.
 
Agreed. Let's include men's responsibility in here somewhere, though, too.
Absolutely. But, would that also include a voice in the decision?
 
Yeah. They like to obfuscate that.
In just a casual look at the site there appears to be a lot of information available not pertaining to abortion. Education is a good thing, yes?
 
Sure, if he agrees to raise the child.
I wonder how many women choose to have an abortion because the man doesn’t want the responsibility. I agree that trying to avoid responsibility isn’t a good reason for abortion.
 
You would likely see a push for national laws to override the state laws.
That's a very plausible future. That would force both parties closer to the middle, and would create serious wedge problems, however, so, both might see advantage in not leading that charge.
 
Some societies do. Others do not
Obviously the United States offers a lot of opportunities. Otherwise you wouldn’t have so many foreigners wanting to come here.
 
I don't see how anyone is forced to have children. We live in a time when sexual education is freely available and that education very well includes how to avoid pregnancy. As far as I know even when abortion wasn't as available birth control pills were. In addition to that there are other protections available. It's a matter of choice. The alternative to poverty shouldn't be death.

The contraceptive coverage mandate helped drive down the abortion rate. “Pro-life” partisans have been trying to repeal it for over a decade.

 
Obviously the United States offers a lot of opportunities. Otherwise you wouldn’t have so many foreigners wanting to come here.
Uh huh. That’s nice
 
The contraceptive coverage mandate helped drive down the abortion rate. “Pro-life” partisans have been trying to repeal it for over a decade.

Yes. Contraption is the best way to prevent abortions. It will be next on the chopping block.
 
In just a casual look at the site there appears to be a lot of information available not pertaining to abortion.

Yeah, PP likes to claim that they Actually Do All These Other Things, and that abortions are a very small portion of "what they do", but, the way they get at those numbers is deliberately deceptive. So if a woman comes in, and they give her a pregnancy test, confirm she is pregnant, counsel her to have an abortion, give her a pamphlet on the benefits of abortion, give her the abortion, and then give her some painkiller after the abortion, they consider themselves to have performed 5 separate services, only one of which was an abortion.... and surely you're not against Counseling or Pamphlets or Painkillers, right?

It comes out best when you compare comparative services. For each instance of offering prenatal care to an expectant mother, Planned Parenthood performed 41 abortions... For each single adoption referral that it made, Planned Parenthood performed 133 abortions.

They like to obfuscate it - but as linked before, abortion is their business model.

Education is a good thing, yes?

In and of itself, Education can be a good thing - depending on what is being taught, it can also be a bad thing. Children who are raised to be versed in why members of other ethnic or religious communities are subhumans who need to be eliminated have been "educated", but, maybe not in a way we would recognize as "good".
 
The contraceptive coverage mandate helped drive down the abortion rate. “Pro-life” partisans have been trying to repeal it for over a decade.

The issue might be about taxpayers paying for choice. It does present a conundrum though in that if we don’t pay for contraception then we may end up paying for the care of the children born. But forcing payment is problematic.
 
I hope so. My worry is: Seems like the GOP continuously tries to put/keep women in a UDB (Unfair Disadvantage Box) year after year, law after law. I ponder what great Scientists, Leaders, medical break-throughs and many other actions that ALL of us have lost because we're only using about 1/2 of the population to make this a better world. :( :(
True, some women have been able to climb out of the proverbial box and do some real good for this earth but I'm sure, as you know, it ain't enough.

They lost women in droves last election.
 
Yeah, PP likes to claim that they Actually Do All These Other Things, and that abortions are a very small portion of "what they do", but, the way they get at those numbers is deliberately deceptive. So if a woman comes in, and they give her a pregnancy test, confirm she is pregnant, counsel her to have an abortion, give her a pamphlet on the benefits of abortion, give her the abortion, and then give her some painkiller after the abortion, they consider themselves to have performed 5 separate services, only one of which was an abortion.... and surely you're not against Counseling or Pamphlets or Painkillers, right?

It comes out best when you compare comparative services. For each instance of offering prenatal care to an expectant mother, Planned Parenthood performed 41 abortions... For each single adoption referral that it made, Planned Parenthood performed 133 abortions.

They like to obfuscate it - but as linked before, abortion is their business model.



In and of itself, Education can be a good thing - depending on what is being taught, it can also be a bad thing. Children who are raised to be versed in why members of other ethnic or religious communities are subhumans who need to be eliminated have been "educated", but, maybe not in a way we would recognize as "good".
I see your point about education except that it seems your version of it seems to be more indoctrination, which typically only offers one choice.
 
Like when slaves ran from the plantation. Laws is laws, boss.
Given that it will be kicked back to the States, I suppose a direct comparison would depends on when. Pre Fugitive Slave Act, when non-slave states were free to allow escaped slaves to seek freedom, yeah, I suppose.
 
Given that it will be kicked back to the States, I suppose a direct comparison would depends on when. Pre Fugitive Slave Act, when non-slave states were free to allow escaped slaves to seek freedom, yeah, I suppose.

Right to privacy isn’t a states issue.
 
LOL, silly question.

I could not vote because you left no option for, "yes, obviously, duh."

This court was put together for the nut job Evangelicals to regress sociaty and that is how they intend to legislate.
I always get a kick out of so-called progressives speaking against regression when practically everything they stand for is regressive in nature. lol
 
I see your point about education except that it seems your version of it seems to be more indoctrination, which typically only offers one choice.
:p It's a historically very common form of education :-/
 
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