How I see bias in the media

[fortune]

I am near 80 years old and our first TV was black and white and we had CBS, NBC, ABC and two local channels which devoted themselves to local and national news events for 30 to 50 minutes
Our selection for opinion came from the Los Angeles Times. Mirror, Examiner and Herald and local bay area and Long Beach papers. I was a kid then and didn't read anything except sports.
I did however notice around Vietnam time that opinions were getting louder and more hostile.

Then came cable and CNN which was liberal then but maybe only a little and that little liberalness was countered by a little conservatism on Fox News and cable was not available everywhere anyway.

The divisiveness came about over Vietnam and I am sure of that. All else since is just division for profit and they are happy to make you happy feeding your prejudices.
When the papers died and cable was born many stopped going to the library to do research.

just a ramble

 

[noonereal]

I see your point and Vietnam did part the seas but CNN was nothing but a new medium for traditionally news.

It was the project which was put together to continually deliver the republican message that has allowed journalism to become tabloid, Fox news.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Newsmax, OAN, American Thinker, Epoch Times:

So many more like them that are excellent resources for unbiased honest news.

/s

 

[skeptic llc]

I see your point and Vietnam did part the seas but CNN was nothing but a new medium for traditionally news.

It was the project which was put together to continually deliver the republican message that has allowed journalism to become tabloid, Fox news.

Yeah, well said, that was my reaction to the post too. There was actually a period of years between CNN and Fox too, and I'm not even sure Fox was so captive to the R party in its beginning. But Fox changing news into an extension of a political party changed everything. Thanks Murdock, you have billions of dollars but still ****ed up everything for everyone else just to make more money.

 

[pamak]

well, many things contributed to the polarization in the media.

For example

Fairness doctrine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In 1984, the Supreme Court ruled that Congress could not forbid editorials by non-profit stations that received grants from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (FCC v. League of Women Voters of California, 468 U.S. 364 (1984)). The Court's 5-4 majority decision by William J. Brennan Jr. stated that while many now considered that expanding sources of communication had made the fairness doctrine's limits unnecessary:

...

On August 5, 1987, under FCC Chairman Dennis R. Patrick, the FCC abolished the doctrine by a 4–0 vote, in the Syracuse Peace Council decision,[27] which was upheld by a panel of the Appeals Court for the D.C. Circuit in February 1989, though the Court stated in their decision that they made "that determination without reaching the constitutional issue."[28] The FCC suggested in Syracuse Peace Council that because of the many media voices in the marketplace, the doctrine be deemed unconstitutional, stating that:

The intrusion by government into the content of programming occasioned by the enforcement of [the Fairness Doctrine] restricts the journalistic freedom of broadcasters ... [and] actually inhibits the presentation of controversial issues of public importance to the detriment of the public and the degradation of the editorial prerogative of broadcast journalists.

 

[noonereal]

I'm not even sure Fox was so captive to the R party in its beginning.

Many do not realize but Fox was birth, by design, as a republican "point of view" network. A propaganda outlet for the GOP. It was created with no expectations of making any money. No other network had been created with a political agenda previous.
How history seems to have largely forgotten this fact is perplexing. It is important to understand, especially with the Fair and Balanced nonsense they have long promoted.

 

[fortune]

Roger AIles did say, "we can elect a president". I belive that is what he sold to Murdoch to start FNN

 

[Daddyo]

I can tell you the reason I switched to Fox News. I was tired of the constant attacks on my thinking and my candidates for office. Fox gave both sides fair and balanced. I would see reports for and against my guys. It was refreshing.

Even in the shows like Hannity and combs for example......combs would piss me off but give the opposing view. Both sides.

They almost always have that ignorant liberal spouting that point of view. They are treated with respect and not destroyed like on the other networks if they even allow an opposing thought.

Back then Fox was the only other option. That why Fox became so popular.

 

[noonereal]

Even in the shows like Hannity and combs for example......combs would piss me off but give the opposing view.

Combs was purposely chosen because he was subservient and yielded to Hannity. The outline of each show was scripted, like big time wrestling. The winner was always Hannity.

That you chose to watch Fox because it supported what you wanted to believe is exactly the problem.

 

[noonereal]

Newsmax, OAN, American Thinker, Epoch Times:

So many more like them that are excellent resources for unbiased honest news.

/s

yep, all fair and balanced.

People literally believe this, can you imagine?

 

[Daddyo]

Combs was purposely chosen because he was subservient and yielded to Hannity. The outline of each show was scripted, like big time wrestling. The winner was always Hannity.

That you chose to watch Fox because it supported what you wanted to believe is exactly the problem.

Never mind the part about getting both sides lol.

 

[Daddyo]

Instead of attacking Fox why not attack the reason Fox exists?

Fox would not be number one if not for years of one sided bias garbage from the others.

Get them to be impartial and Fox is gone. Until then I prefer getting both sides no matter how subservient the liberal view is.

Having decades of actual evidence via my life experience, liberalism equals failure, poverty, and high crime. So I dont need Fox to tell me this.

 

[noonereal]

Instead of attacking Fox why not attack the reason Fox exists?

Fox would not be number one if not for years of one sided bias garbage from the others.

Get them to be impartial and Fox is gone. Until then I prefer getting both sides no matter how subservient the liberal view is.

Having decades of actual evidence via my life experience, liberalism equals failure, poverty, and high crime. So I dont need Fox to tell me this.

so much wrong here

see my previous posts

Fox was set up as a propaganda outlet for the GOP. No other network prior was ever set up for this purpose. News outlets were always honest prior.
As to you life experience, that is just silly. That is your biased life experience seeking confirmation bias.
Crime is a derivative of poverty, they are not two different things.
You cannot eliminate crime without eliminating poverty.

 

[SCrider]

Never mind the part about getting both sides lol.

It was really both sides. they picked and choose the "lib" side they would use.

 

[mrdeltoid]

Yeah, well said, that was my reaction to the post too. There was actually a period of years between CNN and Fox too, and I'm not even sure Fox was so captive to the R party in its beginning. But Fox changing news into an extension of a political party changed everything. Thanks Murdock, you have billions of dollars but still ****ed up everything for everyone else just to make more money.

Network news has always been left leaning, as chronicled in Bernard Goldberg's book "Bias: a CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News." It's always been that way, and although it was a running joke among conservatives, for decades, they seemed to have just accepted that. CNN was no different, as Ted Turner is a life long leftist. Murdoch saw an underserved demographic that was frustrated with this, and filled the void with a right leaning cable news channel. You can blame Murdoch all you want, but as the ratings prove, there are millions of people that watch Fox. If you want to lay blame, and accuse news network of political activism, you might want to take a look at CNN CEO Jeff Zucker, who's been caught on tape issuing Democrat talking points to his program directors.

 

[NoMoreDems-Reps]

It's no longer "Bias" it's flat out Lies Propaganda and Brain washing !
Go look at the photo the media used for the Travon Martin case (a cute young child ~ 10yrs) when his current photos showed a angry 17 year old young man) .
Go look up the George Zimmerman 911 Tape the "Media" but out for Mass consumption, then go look for the REAL 911 tape !
Go look at the Video the "Media" put out on Nicholas Sandman, then after they got sued for > $275,000,000 they released the FULL Video.
When Trump told NATO to uphold their end of the Deal , the Media said Trump was trying to end NATO, was unhinged, was Dangorus to America...... Yet Trump got NATO to stop leaching off the AMERICAN TAX PAYERS, and pay their MINIMUM portions to the NATO DEFENCE !..

P.S. Go read : 545 vs 300 Million" ! This guy had to wait till he retired to write it, because he know the Media would "Cancel Him" .

 

[bomberfox]

Yeah, well said, that was my reaction to the post too. There was actually a period of years between CNN and Fox too, and I'm not even sure Fox was so captive to the R party in its beginning. But Fox changing news into an extension of a political party changed everything. Thanks Murdock, you have billions of dollars but still ****ed up everything for everyone else just to make more money.

Before Murdoch fully took over, fox news at least had to try to look professional.

 

[bomberfox]

I tell you what really did cable news in was adopting the techniques of sportscasting and endless moron pundits that have to get incredibly short talking points in before they move to the next.

 

[skeptic llc]

Network news has always been left leaning, as chronicled in Bernard Goldberg's book "Bias: a CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News." It's always been that way, and although it was a running joke among conservatives, for decades, they seemed to have just accepted that. CNN was no different, as Ted Turner is a life long leftist. Murdoch saw an underserved demographic that was frustrated with this, and filled the void with a right leaning cable news channel. You can blame Murdoch all you want, but as the ratings prove, there are millions of people that watch Fox. If you want to lay blame, and accuse news network of political activism, you might want to take a look at CNN CEO Jeff Zucker, who's been caught on tape issuing Democrat talking points to his program directors.

Absolutely agree that MSM imposed a leftist bias on news. However, I don't think the right wing reaction is proportionate. It's the difference between undisclosed spin, vs. just flat out lying. MSM spins everything in a leftist direction, then right wing media concocts a full-blown fact-free alternate reality. I do hate how most media spins away from topics and especially facts that their viewers don't want to hear, but that's a different level of bad from telling angry viewers whatever falsehood they want to believe is god's honest truth. One thing leads to bad policies, the other leads to a literal insurrection against the values of the (previously) greatest country on earth.