How history corresponds with the Biblical story of Eden

[Rambozo]

Yes, humans lived as hunter-gatherers for the vast majority of their history, with estimates suggesting this way of life persisted for 90% to 99.4% of human existence, or for nearly 2 million years. This lifestyle, which involved foraging for plants and animals, was the longest-lasting and most successful human adaptation until the Neolithic Revolution and the rise of agriculture around 12,000 years ago.

For most of human history, people lived close to nature in hunter-gatherer societies. The advent of civilization is a much more recent thing, and with it have come ills such as the emergence of modern diseases, which hunter-gatherers did not have to worry about.

This corresponds with how, in the Bible, Adam and Eve lived close to nature in the Garden of Eden, up until the Fall of Man and the advent of civilization.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Yes, humans lived as hunter-gatherers for the vast majority of their history, with estimates suggesting this way of life persisted for 90% to 99.4% of human existence, or for nearly 2 million years. This lifestyle, which involved foraging for plants and animals, was the longest-lasting and most successful human adaptation until the Neolithic Revolution and the rise of agriculture around 12,000 years ago.

For most of human history, people lived close to nature in hunter-gatherer societies. The advent of civilization is a much more recent thing, and with it have come ills such as the emergence of modern diseases, which hunter-gatherers did not have to worry about.

This corresponds with how, in the Bible, Adam and Eve lived close to nature in the Garden of Eden, up until the Fall of Man and the advent of civilization.

There are numerous differences between your post and the tale of Adam and Eve in the Old Testament. For one, the “original sin” was (allegedly) committed by the (alleged) first pair of humans, not many, many generations later.

 

[Rambozo]

There are numerous differences between your post and the tale of Adam and Eve in the Old Testament.

And?

 

[ttwtt78640]

And?

See edit. The only commonality is the existence of humans.

 

[Rambozo]

See edit. The only commonality is the existence of humans.

No, the commonality is the existence of humans as hunter-gatherers who lived close to nature.

 

[ataraxia]

No, the commonality is the existence of humans as hunter-gatherers who lived close to nature.

If I ever developed acute appendicitis, I would much rather be alive now than then. You?

 

[Grand Mal]

Yes, humans lived as hunter-gatherers for the vast majority of their history, with estimates suggesting this way of life persisted for 90% to 99.4% of human existence, or for nearly 2 million years. This lifestyle, which involved foraging for plants and animals, was the longest-lasting and most successful human adaptation until the Neolithic Revolution and the rise of agriculture around 12,000 years ago.

For most of human history, people lived close to nature in hunter-gatherer societies. The advent of civilization is a much more recent thing, and with it have come ills such as the emergence of modern diseases, which hunter-gatherers did not have to worry about.

This corresponds with how, in the Bible, Adam and Eve lived close to nature in the Garden of Eden, up until the Fall of Man and the advent of civilization.

I agree with this. Adam and Eve represent mankind in a state of innocence, a state they lost when they started to call things 'good' and 'evil'. In their innocence, nothing was good or evil, everything just was.
When they lost their innocence they became agriculturalists- Cain was a planter, Able a herder. Agriculture made two things possible- they could create a surplus and they could settle in large groups, in cities. All of man's problems stem from two questions- who will control the surplus and who will rule the city?

 

[Rambozo]

If I ever developed acute appendicitis, I would much rather be alive now than then. You?

That's assuming that you ever would have had to worry about developing it.

Many of the diseases which humans face are the result of living in civilization.

When Europeans came to North America, they brought with them diseases caused by living in dirty cities, which Native Americans had no immunity to, but never needed one.

So sure, if hunter-gatherers were victims of modern diseases, they would have needed a cure, but they lived for most of human history without such cures and didn't need them. At very least, their populations never died off.

 

[ttwtt78640]

No, the commonality is the existence of humans as hunter-gatherers who lived close to nature.

Prior to Adam and Eve eating the “forbidden fruit”, which was done before other humans existed.

Garden of Eden | Story, Meaning, & Facts | Britannica

Garden of Eden, in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) book of Genesis, biblical earthly paradise inhabited by the first created man and woman, Adam and Eve, prior to their expulsion for disobeying the commandments of God.

www.britannica.com

 

[ataraxia]

That's assuming that you ever would have had to worry about developing it.

Many of the diseases which humans face are the result of living in civilization.

When Europeans came to North America, they brought with them diseases caused by living in dirty cities, which Native Americans had no immunity to, but never needed one.

So sure, if hunter-gatherers were victims of modern diseases, they would have needed a cure, but they lived for most of human history without such cures and didn't need them. At very least, their populations never died off.

Those populations were barely hanging on. There were several significant bottlenecks in the genetics of human diversity, due mainly to the fact that several times, environmental stressors had come close to wiping out the entire human population. Only a few survived, which explains the low genetic diversity among modern humans today.

https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2012/10/22/163397584/how-human-beings-almost-vanished-from-earth-in-70-000-b-c

Besides, I like my air conditioning and TV shows too much.

And having to worry about these things when out picking my berries is not my idea of "Eden". Much rather deal with rush hour traffic or something.