How far right is the GOP?

[Casper]

I think it has more to do with needing to get as many votes as they possibly can, and using the politics of hatred to do so. Because any vote is a good vote to them, they willingly embrace conspiracy theories, xenophobia, racism, and foreign propaganda if it means frightening the uneducated into hating their opponents enough to get their votes. They will do anything to win, and the more radical right conspiracy theories they embrace, the further to the right they shift and the sillier they look.

Time will tell if this was a good strategy, (as Trump did win in 2016) but it's looking to me like the Republicans sold their souls to win one skirmish with the worst possible candidate at the head of their party, and I think doing so will ultimately cost them the war itself.

I don't think it will take them long to claw their way back to center and leave their far right leaning supporters in the dust once they've lost a few elections. The far right GOP of today is an endangered species.

Agree, except the last comment. I have doubts they can ever move back to where they are more mainstream. They have shown their true colors to the American People and I doubt the true Republicans want much to do with them. Thinking we will see a splita mong them. Then again the same may be coming for the Dems.

 

[veritas1]

Trump is president, just like Reagan, not the Democrats. When has Trump ever acted like Reagan?

It's amusing seeing you guys talk about Reagan. I don't know if you were around when he was POTUS. I was and the left had little use for him. Not like they hate Trump, of course, they were a bit more rational back then, but they really didn't like him much at all.

 

[veritas1]

An example of what? That Trump puts his own ambition above the needs of the country? Read Bolton's book.

So, your opinion is grounded in Bolton's book? You guys cozying up to Bolton is even funnier than doing it with Reagan.

 

[veritas1]

No ****. What's your point?

The point? That liberals can't be trusted to honor their word.

 

[Nickyjo]

Hilarious. The Dems shouldn't even be on the chart. It doesn't stretch left enough.

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Get serious. In conversations with conservatives from other countries who observed our politics, they told me they would be considered leftists here. We are the only country in the world that I know of that has a wing of a major political party denying climate science. If “Medicare for all” or increasing the minimum wage are considered leftist positions, your party is pretty centrist.

 

[Lutherf]

Something everyone in US politics should understand: the GOP is the farthest right major party in any developed democracy.

To find analogues you have to look to splinter neo-fascist parties in the EU.

The Democrats are endorsing Socialism, Anarchy and political leadership based on nothing other than race and gender dynamics. When you guys have moved that far left it's really no wonder that everyone else looks so far right.

 

[Michael Cole]

It's amusing seeing you guys talk about Reagan. I don't know if you were around when he was POTUS. I was and the left had little use for him. Not like they hate Trump, of course, they were a bit more rational back then, but they really didn't like him much at all.

What are you talking about? I asked you to compare Trump with Reagan. Stick to the points being made, please.

Yes, I was 23 in 1980. There was a champagne party at Virginia Lake the day before the inauguration, when the hostages were released. I remember it well. Who cares what "the left" thought? Reagan had broad support across party lines. Trump doesn't even see the value in compromise. Again, autocratic mindset.

 

[Michael Cole]

The Democrats are endorsing Socialism, Anarchy and political leadership based on nothing other than race and gender dynamics. When you guys have moved that far left it's really no wonder that everyone else looks so far right.

Actually, it is Trump who endorsed socialism. It's right there on the checks. Trump insisted.

 

[gdgyva]

Something everyone in US politics should understand: the GOP is the farthest right major party in any developed democracy.

To find analogues you have to look to splinter neo-fascist parties in the EU.

is there an article or a citation with this?

where did the chart originate?

 

[veritas1]

What are you talking about? I asked you to compare Trump with Reagan. Stick to the points being made, please.

Yes, I was 23 in 1980. There was a champagne party at Virginia Lake the day before the inauguration, when the hostages were released. I remember it well. Who cares what "the left" thought? Reagan had broad support across party lines. Trump doesn't even see the value in compromise. Again, autocratic mindset.

Trump would be happy to work with anyone. The Dems have no interest. After 3+ years of hoaxes that is all too obvious.

 

[Michael Cole]

The point? That liberals can't be trusted to honor their word.

My god.

REAGAN PARDONED MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS

That's not right-wing by Trump standards, regardless of your pointless rationalization.

 

[Michael Cole]

Trump would be happy to work with anyone. The Dems have no interest. After 3+ years of hoaxes that is all too obvious.

Okie-doke. Have fun.

 

[veritas1]

My god.

REAGAN PARDONED MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS

That's not right-wing by Trump standards, regardless of your pointless rationalization.

I already explained how that came about. It was one of those dreaded quid pro quos except the liberals didn't keep their side of the bargain.

 

[Perotista]

Something everyone in US politics should understand: the GOP is the farthest right major party in any developed democracy.

To find analogues you have to look to splinter neo-fascist parties in the EU.

Comparing our two major parties to those of Europe is irrelevant as we don't have multi parties. Our two party system, monopoly prohibits that. I would suggest taking a look at the number of folks deserting both major parties as one moves further left and the other right. America as a whole is somewhere in-between our two major parties.

In 2006 for example 36% of Americans identified or affiliated with the Democratic Party, 31% with the Republican party with 30% identifying themselves as independents. Today or as of 4 June 2020 31% of Americans identify with the Democratic Party, 25% with the Republican Party with 40% now saying they are independents, non-affiliated with either party. Over the last 14 years the Democratic Party's share of the electorate has dropped 5 points, the GOP share has dropped 6 points while independents have gained 10 points.

Only the monopoly our two major parties have over our 2 party electoral systems prevents a viable third party rising for those whose political ideology is in-between where our two major parties stand today. Republicans and Democrats write our election laws and they do so as a mutual protection act. If there's one thing both major parties agree on, it's that no viable third party will ever rise to challenge them.

 

[Rogue Valley]

The GOP is moving to the far-right, close to Fascist territory.

Now they want to ban mail-in ballots, right in the midst of a pandemic that has claimed 121,000 American loives.

 

[Razoo]

Something everyone in US politics should understand: the GOP is the farthest right major party in any developed democracy.

To find analogues you have to look to splinter neo-fascist parties in the EU.

FAscist Libertarians mixed with Radical Fundamentalists

 

[Razoo]

Okay let's plan ahead = VOTE VOTE VOTE !

Voters ORGANIZE A VOTING DAY PACKET which could contain:

— 2 separate and recent*Utility Bills*(bills from within the past 6 months prior to Election Day,*like 1 Phone Bill and 1 Power Bill) that will prove*where your LEGAL Precinct is, and validate your Voter*residency.
Those 2 distinct utility bills should*satisfy many*State's "Voter*Proof of Residency" registration and same-day Voting requirements........*

--- a birth certificate

 --- drivers license or state ID card

--- proof of voter registration etc etc etc.
--- Passport

--- Keep it close by to secure your voting opportunities .

--- I do have mine absolutely!

Let's get on with it. WE voters have a mess to clean up.

 Sorry to say the grand ole party that represented the Fiscal Conservative/Socially Responsible republicans is dead.

Over thrown by a radical right wing Libertarian coup over the past 39 years led by Charles Koch $$$$$ which represents hate and outlaws.

 Once again….Voters BEGIN ORGANIZING YOUR VOTING DAY PACKET. Keep it close by ALWAYS.

Make sure a birth certificate is readily available which can be replaced through the county seat one was born …..It may take about 3 weeks.


WHEN LARGE LARGE NUMBERS OF MODERATE VOTERS GO TO THE POLLS AMERICA ALWAYS BECOMES A BETTER PLACE.

BECAUSE THIS TURNOUT PRODUCES THE MODERATE GOVERNMENT THAT PROTECTS VOTING RIGHTS, KEEPS WOMENS RIGHTS IN PLACE, KEEPS AMERICA EMPLOYED WHICH PRODUCES ECONOMIC GROWTH WHICH KEEPS THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE USA WAY ABOVE NORMAL. 


$15 PER HOUR IS LESS THAN $33,000 PER YEAR BEFORE TAXES. 


=== GROCERIES PLUS SALES TAX IS EXPENSIVE
=== DOCTORS AND LAWYERS MAKE HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS AN HOUR
=== CEO'S MAKE MULTI MILLIONS A YEAR
=== CEO'S ARE AWARDED MILLIONS IN THEIR GOLDEN PARACHUTE PACKAGES
===THE VERY WEALTHY ARE PROVIDED LOOPHOLES THAT WHICH ALLOW THEM TO PAY NO TAXES
=== CARS COST TENS OF THOUSANDS
=== HOMES COST HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS TO MILLIONS OF $$$$$
=== MEDICAL INSURANCE COSTS THOUSANDS OF $$$$$ ANNUALLY
=== SPORTS TEAMS ARE AWARDED BILLIONS IN TAX DOLLAR SUBSIDES

YET CONSERVATIVES ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HARD WORKING PEOPLE MAKING $35 AN HOUR AND/OR $64,500 A YEAR?????

 

[Rogue Valley]

4 Inspectors General removed. Barr is now trying to remove the Attorney General for the SDNY.

They must be getting close to indicting Giuliani.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Trumps COVID rally will begin shortly. 20,000 non-mask wearing morons who will be bringing COVID to all regions of our country.

MAGA!

 

[Nickyjo]

What you are saying is ridiculous and has no basis in fact. You can't even give me an example. I'm not sure you know what an autocrat is.

I alone can fix it. I can do anything. The judge can’t be objective because he is Mexican and I am building a wall. The media is the enemy of the people. Demanding personal loyalty. Going around the cabinet table to have people praise you. I am the first, the only. Torture worse than waterboarding. Take out their families. Clear the crowd away with gas just for me so I can hold up a Bible.

That’s a start.

 

[lwf]

We keep reading this nonsense but I'm wondering what is so rightwing about putting our country before others, trying to build our economy and trying to keep law and order. That benefits everybody, not a select few. Also, while Dems talk a good game, it is Trump who has instituted criminal justice reform, opportunity zones, historic aid to black colleges, etc. Not very rightwing it seems.

Not all Republicans are far right, and Democrats believe these same things. But the Republican party as a whole has embraced far right extremism to a level that would have shocked Reagan or even Bush-era Republicans. And many of them are starting to speak up even if it costs their party the election in November. This is a testament to how far the party has fallen. Regardless of what you might think Trump did right, he is single-handedly killing your party's credibility and chances of continued influence. If you had elected anyone else in 2016, you would likely be looking at a win in November. Hell, if Hillary had won you would probably be looking at a win in November. You elected the one person that would do the most damage to the Republican party in the 2020 election.

I suppose the question is: Was 4 years of very minor Republican victories in a few key areas worth the damage done to the party and the country in other areas? If we have a decade of Democrat administrations going forward, will it still have been worth it to elect a "street fighter" in 2016 just to "troll the libs?"

 

[Lutherf]

Actually, it is Trump who endorsed socialism. It's right there on the checks. Trump insisted.

I'm not really sure that the government telling people they can't go to work and can't operate their businesses due to a public health concern and then compensating those who are put out of work really constitutes "socialism". Then again, as I understand it, since I'm not a Socialist then I am not allowed to make a determination with regard to whether something is Socialist or not. Only Socialists get to define Socialism in the Socialist world.

 

[Decypher]

Lmfao, the median line needs to be moved on top of the US Republican Party.

Hilarious. The Dems shouldn't even be on the chart. It doesn't stretch left enough.

Funny how those who are the most vehement about politics often don’t know the first thing about it.

 

[eohrnberger]

This is a hilarious premise.
The GOP was swung too far right, when it is the Democrats and the left that are purposing de-fund, dismantle, disband the police.

It is the Democrats and the left that are purporting protests and riots in the time of a contagious viral outbreak as being perfectly safe, yet also claim that the opposition's political rallies are 'dangerous' 'will kill people' are a public safety threat (of their own making), etc. etc. etc.

So much bull**** from the Democrats, the leftists and their accomplices in the media, the nation is drowning in bull****.

In reality it is the Democrats and the leftists that have veered to the hard far left (hopefully to 'left out').

 

[lwf]

Agree, except the last comment. I have doubts they can ever move back to where they are more mainstream. They have shown their true colors to the American People and I doubt the true Republicans want much to do with them. Thinking we will see a splita mong them. Then again the same may be coming for the Dems.

I agree. And the larger half of the split will become the new Republican and Democrat party. I don't believe current Republicans will change and become more mainstream. I believe future Republicans will be more mainstream than their ignorant, close minded parents.