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How fake news like CNN uses polls to engineer results.

EvMetro said:
I came across this article elsewhere on the web, and thought I better post it here.

New ABC / WaPo Poll Shows Drop In Trump Favorability Courtesy Of Aggressive "Oversamples" | Zero Hedge

It talks about how fake news sources like CNN have engineered results, and how they still are.
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They did it all the way through the election. They already flushed their credibility so I see no reason they would stop. It was NBC/WaPo that was dragged over the coals for the 11 point lead they gave to Clinton 21 days out of the election. Then they did it again just before the election if I remember right. It came to light that the pollster is actually a Clinton operative and donor. The poll was weighted the same as this poll. They magically revised their numbers down 6 or 7 points in three days after being called on it. It was Zerohedge that first brought that debacle to light.
 
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Ah, Zero Hedge. You can always rely on the Nazi voice in their articles.

asdf.webp
 
NonoBadDog said:
What did you think of the weighting in the poll?
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Don't know, I just saw "Zero Hedge" and knew that the comments section would have Nazis in it. The instant I clicked on the link I hit "ctrl-F" and typed "Jew" and bam...found a Nazi.
 
Cardinal said:
Don't know, I just saw "Zero Hedge" and knew that the comments section would have Nazis in it. The instant I clicked on the link I hit "ctrl-F" and typed "Jew" and bam...found a Nazi.
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As expected.
 
Cardinal said:
I would be more curious why Nazis are regulars at Zero Hedge.
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If you were that curious you would investigate it. That would take some effort. Not waiting for that.
 
NonoBadDog said:
They did it all the way through the election. They already flushed their credibility so I see no reason they would stop. It was NBC/WaPo that was dragged over the coals for the 11 point lead they gave to Clinton 21 days out of the election. Then they did it again just before the election if I remember right. It came to light that the pollster is actually a Clinton operative and donor. The poll was weighted the same as this poll. They magically revised their numbers down 6 or 7 points in three days after being called on it. It was Zerohedge that first brought that debacle to light.
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No wonder so many dismiss Zero Hedge out of hand. It's a terrible thing to do to another, rip away hope and dreams and force them to face reality.
They are still pissed off and can't think straight.

Maybe that'll change next week or next month. Maybe not.
 
eohrnberger said:
No wonder so many dismiss Zero Hedge out of hand. It's a terrible thing to do to another, rip away hope and dreams and force them to face reality.
They are still pissed off and can't think straight.

Maybe that'll change next week or next month. Maybe not.
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It won't. Some of them are stuck in whiny ass tantrum mode. The rest of them are just shaking their heads.
 
NonoBadDog said:
If you were that curious you would investigate it. That would take some effort. Not waiting for that.
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I'm not curious because it's not a news source for me. I don't tend to hang out in places frequented by Nazis. If I did find out that a place I went to was frequented by Nazis, I would ask somebody what it was about the place that attracted them so consistently.
 
Cardinal said:
I'm not curious because it's not a news source for me. I don't tend to hang out in places frequented by Nazis. If I did find out that a place I went to was frequented by Nazis, I would ask somebody what it was about the place that attracted them so consistently.
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When was the last time you quoted any news source?
 
NonoBadDog said:
When was the last time you quoted any news source?
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Yes, I get what you want to do. I quote a news source, then you find somebody disreputable in the comments section so you can wipe it in my face. Thing is, though, anti-semitism is highly specific, and literally every time I've clicked on a Zero Hedge link there are blatant anti-semites in the comments section.

Literally.

Every.

Single.

Time.
 
An anonymous report on a dodgy website.
Yeah, I'll buy whatever it says.
 
eohrnberger said:
No wonder so many dismiss Zero Hedge out of hand. It's a terrible thing to do to another, rip away hope and dreams and force them to face reality.
They are still pissed off and can't think straight.

Maybe that'll change next week or next month. Maybe not.
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Do you believe every anonymous blog that says words you like to hear?
 
NonoBadDog said:
It won't. Some of them are stuck in whiny ass tantrum mode. The rest of them are just shaking their heads.
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My first child had a period where she would put on wild tantrums. What worked the best was just to stand there and watch her, not saying a word.
After about 5 minutes, she would tire and stop.

It's been like 5 weeks.
 
Grand Mal said:
Do you believe every anonymous blog that says words you like to hear?
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ZeroHedge has been pretty good. I don't think that I'd categorize it as just like every anonymous blog.

Do you disparage and discredit every source that you don't agree with?
 
Cardinal said:
Yes, I get what you want to do. I quote a news source, then you find somebody disreputable in the comments section so you can wipe it in my face. Thing is, though, anti-semitism is highly specific, and literally every time I've clicked on a Zero Hedge link there are blatant anti-semites in the comments section.

Literally.

Every.

Single.

Time.
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Do you recognize that there's a difference between what a web site publishes and those who leave comments on it?
 
eohrnberger said:
Do you recognize that there's a difference between what a web site publishes and those who leave comments on it?
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I recognize that it's very curious for a website to specifically attract Nazis.
 
eohrnberger said:
ZeroHedge has been pretty good. I don't think that I'd categorize it as just like every anonymous blog.

Do you disparage and discredit every source that you don't agree with?
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No, but if the author won't put his name on his work I won't read it because I have no reason to believe it. Why is this different from any other anonymous blog? If the writer won't put his name on it, why do you think you can trust it?
 
Cardinal said:
I recognize that it's very curious for a website to specifically attract Nazis.
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How is this web site doing this? It publishes financial stuff mostly, and some other topics. I've not seen a single neo-Nazi ting on it yet. So how's the web site doing that then?

Grand Mal said:
No, but if the author won't put his name on his work I won't read it because I have no reason to believe it. Why is this different from any other anonymous blog? If the writer won't put his name on it, why do you think you can trust it?
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The author does not the quality of the information make, at least not solely. What is published there seems to stand on it's own pretty well, more often than not.
 
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