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[Lursa]

It already does work in places in the US. It just needs to be nationwide.

Tell us again? Please. Tell us how it's working and how you can expand it for the whole nation. You know....your 'plan' which you already admitted doesnt work!

The issue is gun control. Not gun ownership. And how many Mexican cartels are answering questions about their gun ownership. Now that is freaking hilarious.

And how many time do you have to be told it is not gun ownership that is not the problem?

Huh. Then that's not necessary? Knowing who owns guns?

So then again, your whole registration and background check and other 'forms'' crap is just useless?

Yeah, that's what we've been saying. :mrgreen:

And you drive the point home by acknowledging the criminals wont be filling out any forms! :lamo

Just re-read it. Then let me know which part isnt a complete fail on your part regarding all those forms you want people filling out here in the US to 'stop gun violence.'

 

[Lursa]

Then copy my plan to reduce gun deaths. Gun control.


You know......the plan that actually works.

FUnny, here are 2 nations with strict gun control and you admit it doesnt work.

Russia is one of the most corrupt nations on earth. Gun laws are on paper only

Mexico has almost no gun control. Almost none. Except on paper. LOL

Tell us again how American criminals are going to fill out your forms? :lamo

 

[vegas giants]

FUnny, here are 2 nations with strict gun control and you admit it doesnt work.





Tell us again how American criminals are going to fill out your forms? :lamo

In much the way Canada, Europe, Australia.....etc.

You see I have a plan that works lots of places.....unlike you. Lol

 

[vegas giants]

FUnny, here are 2 nations with strict gun control and you admit it doesnt work.





Tell us again how American criminals are going to fill out your forms? :lamo

In much the way Canada, Europe, Australia does.....etc.

You see I have a plan that works lots of places.....unlike you. Lol

 

[vegas giants]

I never said anything about 'effective' as it's unproven. These are simple words to understand...if you cannot, then you are in way over your head here.

As for losing, you keep writing snarky little comments like you've won something...and yet all I see is snark and no substance to prove it.

Your plan is useless for the entire country and many here have demonstrated why. Yet you keep proposing it over and over, even after admitting yourself that 'forms' for background checks and registration wont work. And that the problem is not gun ownership (then what do we need BGCs and registration for? :roll In your own words...which I am happy to post again.

So back to Einstein's description of your posting here perfectly paraphrased, "The definition of stupid is posting the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."

Sorry Charlie, your big bag of fail just keeps getting bigger :mrgreen: You are welcome to continue complimenting my posting style but you'd be smarter to actually attempt to understand the words I post :lol: That's what moves discussions forward.

It is true your plan is so bad no one on earth will even try it. Lol

Oh I do enjoy that. Lol

 

[jet57]

No, it's not my solution. The only way to have no shootings is to have no guns. We will always have guns, therefore we will always have shootings. You refer to the Vegas shooting and laws not working. The laws are not designed to nor can they prevent shootings.

So then, according to you, there is no solution.

 

[Rucker61]

So then, according to you, there is no solution.

If the goal is "no mass shootings in the US", then no, there are no solutions outside of "no guns". And that's no solution:

"Make sure that the Democrats have a supermajority in both Houses and the Presidency, as some Democrats hail from strong 2A states and you may not be able to count on their support. Have your legislator introduce legislation amending the Second Amendment, and getting everyone to decide on the terms of the new Amendment. Get 2/3 of both Houses to agree on the wording and vote to amend the Constitution. Make sure that Amendments 4 and 10 don’t get in the way of your new wording. Now get 38 state legislatures to vote to accept the new Amendment. Don’t count of the votes of Vermont, New Hampshire, North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming New Mexico, Arizona, Oklahoma, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky or Kansas. That leaves you about ten states short, but hey, voter fraud happens, so you might be able to pull it off.
Now what? The laws currently in place are still in place, regardless of the status of the 2A, so effort has to be made to change them. Given that 12 states voted against the Amendment, they aren’t likely to change their laws, and you can’t count on all of the other states imposing the same draconian laws that CA and NY are likely to impose. There are still 325 million guns in private hands. There are likely 5-8 million “patrol rifles’ in private hands, along with say 20-50 million 30 round magazines. There are billions of rounds of ammo in private hands.
Now try to find and collect all of those guns. Try getting funding to pay for $325 billion in buy-backs for the guns, and another $100 billion or so for the ammunition. Try to convince the people that you want going to get the guns that they need to give up their privately owned guns, too. Try getting people to register their guns so that you know where to get them. Ask Connecticut, Canada and Germany how well their gun registration efforts worked.
Next, prohibit, find and confiscate any bit of machinery that can be used to manufacture firearms, like CNC machines, milling machines and 3D printers.
Lastly, try closing the porous 1000 mile border between the US and our lawless neighbor to the south. "

 

[vegas giants]

If the goal is "no mass shootings in the US", then no, there are no solutions outside of "no guns". And that's no solution:

"Make sure that the Democrats have a supermajority in both Houses and the Presidency, as some Democrats hail from strong 2A states and you may not be able to count on their support. Have your legislator introduce legislation amending the Second Amendment, and getting everyone to decide on the terms of the new Amendment. Get 2/3 of both Houses to agree on the wording and vote to amend the Constitution. Make sure that Amendments 4 and 10 don’t get in the way of your new wording. Now get 38 state legislatures to vote to accept the new Amendment. Don’t count of the votes of Vermont, New Hampshire, North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming New Mexico, Arizona, Oklahoma, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky or Kansas. That leaves you about ten states short, but hey, voter fraud happens, so you might be able to pull it off.
Now what? The laws currently in place are still in place, regardless of the status of the 2A, so effort has to be made to change them. Given that 12 states voted against the Amendment, they aren’t likely to change their laws, and you can’t count on all of the other states imposing the same draconian laws that CA and NY are likely to impose. There are still 325 million guns in private hands. There are likely 5-8 million “patrol rifles’ in private hands, along with say 20-50 million 30 round magazines. There are billions of rounds of ammo in private hands.
Now try to find and collect all of those guns. Try getting funding to pay for $325 billion in buy-backs for the guns, and another $100 billion or so for the ammunition. Try to convince the people that you want going to get the guns that they need to give up their privately owned guns, too. Try getting people to register their guns so that you know where to get them. Ask Connecticut, Canada and Germany how well their gun registration efforts worked.
Next, prohibit, find and confiscate any bit of machinery that can be used to manufacture firearms, like CNC machines, milling machines and 3D printers.
Lastly, try closing the porous 1000 mile border between the US and our lawless neighbor to the south. "

None of that is necessary

 

[Lursa]

In much the way Canada, Europe, Australia.....etc.

You see I have a plan that works lots of places.....unlike you. Lol

And yet it doesnt work in Russia or Mexico. Not especially rational to believe it will work here just because you cherry picked the examples that work 'for you.'

 

[Lursa]

It is true your plan is so bad no one on earth will even try it. Lol

Oh I do enjoy that. Lol

Congratulations! You just claimed that more attention to mental illness and fixing our socio-economic conditions is a plan that bad :lamo:lamo:lamo

 

[vegas giants]

And yet it doesnt work in Russia or Mexico. Not especially rational to believe it will work here just because you cherry picked the examples that work 'for you.'

Where is your plan working again? Please feel free to cherry pick a dozen examples like I did.

Man I enjoyed that. Lol

 

[vegas giants]

Congratulations! You just claimed that more attention to mental illness and fixing our socio-economic conditions is a plan that bad :lamo:lamo:lamo

Where does that work again?


Check for bruises. Lol

 

[Lursa]

It is true your plan is so bad no one on earth will even try it. Lol

Oh I do enjoy that. Lol

And yet it doesnt work in Russia or Mexico. Not especially rational to believe it will work here just because you cherry picked the examples that work 'for you.'​

 

[vegas giants]

And yet it doesnt work in Russia or Mexico. Not especially rational to believe it will work here just because you cherry picked the examples that work 'for you.'​

Where are your cherry picked places your plan is working? Lol

 

[Lursa]

Congratulations! You just claimed that more attention to mental illness and fixing our socio-economic conditions is a plan that bad :lamo:lamo:lamo

Where does that work again?


Check for bruises. Lol

Your implied violence is very juvenile...as is your belief you have delivered any such blows.

If you think that more resources devoted to mental illness and fixing deteriorating socio-economic conditions in the US is a waste of time (or has been shown to be a failure anywhere)....you demonstrate a delusional grasp of reality that reaches a new low, even for you.

 

[Lursa]

Where is your plan working again? Please feel free to cherry pick a dozen examples like I did.

Man I enjoyed that. Lol

I never said it was working...I never said it had been implemented.

You asked for a 'plan', that's all. And you got one.

I think you enjoyed it because you were unable to understand the actual words written and fantasized about your denial that 'your' plan for stricter gun laws would actually work in the US.

So please stop lying. Remember, lying only leads to more vegassing...which is what your repetitive, empty, false posts are...not discussion.

 

[Lursa]

Where are your cherry picked places your plan is working? Lol

Where did I say it was implemented?

 

[vegas giants]

Where did I say it was implemented?

Are you still posting?

Now I just feel bad for you.


Lursaiiiiiiiiing. Lol

 

[Lursa]

Are you still posting?

Now I just feel bad for you.


Lursaiiiiiiiiing. Lol

Why are you still posting? You have failed to dispute my plan OR prove yours will work. (<------- Yup, my posting style...honest and realistic! thanks for pointing it out again)

Yet here you are...vegassing with zero content to discuss.

 

[vegas giants]

Why are you still posting? You have failed to dispute my plan OR prove yours will work. (<------- Yup, my posting style...honest and realistic! thanks for pointing it out again)

Yet here you are...vegassing with zero content to discuss.

Awwwwwww. You mean your plan that does not work anywhere in the universe? That plan?

This is too easy now. I just feel bad for you.


Lursaiiiiiiiing. Lol

 

[Lursa]

If you think that more resources devoted to mental illness and fixing deteriorating socio-economic conditions in the US is a waste of time (or has been shown to be a failure anywhere)....you demonstrate a delusional grasp of reality that reaches a new low, even for you.​

Awwwwwww. You mean your plan that does not work anywhere in the universe? That plan?

This is too easy now. I just feel bad for you.


Lursaiiiiiiiing. Lol

Why are you still posting? You have failed to dispute my plan OR prove yours will work. (<------- Yup, my posting style...honest and realistic! thanks for pointing it out again)

Yet here you are...vegassing with zero content to discuss.​

:lamo Pretty easy to just post the highlights and show how you are continually failing.

Oh...and the repetitive lying...remember, lying only leads to more vegassing, not discussion. Once again you are trapped in one of your failure loops.

 

[vegas giants]

If you think that more resources devoted to mental illness and fixing deteriorating socio-economic conditions in the US is a waste of time (or has been shown to be a failure anywhere)....you demonstrate a delusional grasp of reality that reaches a new low, even for you.​

Why are you still posting? You have failed to dispute my plan OR prove yours will work. (<------- Yup, my posting style...honest and realistic! thanks for pointing it out again)

Yet here you are...vegassing with zero content to discuss.​

:lamo Pretty easy to just post the highlights and show how you are continually failing.

Oh...and the repetitive lying...remember, lying only leads to more vegassing, not discussion. Once again you are trapped in one of your failure loops.

You are just lying. And........


Lursaiiiiiiiiiing. Lol

 

[Lursa]

You are just lying. And........


Lursaiiiiiiiiiing. Lol

Please point out where I lied. Specifically.

And remember, lying only leads to more vegassing, not discussion.

(LOLOL you reinforce THIS TRUTH with every post :lamo :lamo)

 

[Maccabee]

Then prove it

I said, to my knowledge. Meaning that I don't have information to prove otherwise.

 

[Maccabee]

Which you can not prove works currently

I can prove that it worked as recent as 2013.