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Yes, there is a possible solution, but please understand, it is ONLY my stupid and UNinformed ideas on the subject. So heavy use for considering the source is recommended.
OK...Problems with law enforcement, and how to fix them.
Get rid of the inner city amoral and sociopathic young black thugs that roam at will and destroy at will. They commit over 70% of all inner city crimes, and also feel it their obligation to kill any young black kids that just might be good at math, spelling, reading, the arts or sciences.
They are the reason LEO's are so trigger happy. These thugs only think about themselves and what they want in the here and now, with no thought as to the consequences or aftermath of their actions.
This is the 800 pound gorilla in the room absolutely no white person will address, and no black person will admit to.
If you were to wave a magic wand and transport 100% of them to a distant planet, the crime statistics in the US would be on par with Norway or Switzerland.
These creatures are a vicious animal of our own creation. When back in the 60's we decided to "feed the bears" and ensure they never stopped sucking on the government teat. LBJ was quoted as saying, " I'll have these n____rs voting Democrat for the next 200 years "....if they passed all of the welfare programs he wanted. They passed, and it has happened. What you have now is a complete destruction of the black family unit where a large percentage of black kids have no idea who their fathers are. Yet their mothers keep getting paid to pop out kids. Just watch one episode of Maury.
These kids growing up with no sense of right and wrong, and no male role model will get you the creatures that roam the inner cities at present.
The police have become quick on the trigger because of it and them. Contrary to popular press, NO ONE in law enforcement likes or wants to kill another person....but they HAVE become trigger happy because of these creatures of our own creation.
How do you fix it.
1. Stop it at its source. Quit paying for more moms to have more inner city kids that will be either victims or perpetrators of crime.
2. Quit making social welfare an open ended system. Once on, then there should also be a STOP date. That date can be flexible, but it needs to be there.
3. For those children already wandering aimlessly in fear, have a safe place they can go to, that will also be nurturing and helpful to them.
4. CRACK is the bane and death angel of the inner cities. Put dealers of CRACK off on a special island with few luxuries like normal prison has. An American Devil's Island, if you want to call it that.
5. Quit making the "gangsta" lifestyle something to look up to. A kid who sees a "gangsta" with a nice car, beautiful women, and really good clothes is only a draw to that lifestyle. Then without a role model in their life, they will be sucked into it at a very young age, as many of them are.
This is not really a POLICE issue, it is an inner city thug issue. An issue no one wants to do a damned thing about, and have not for decades.
You better don your OBA and get into battle dress.
You have a mass conflag coming your way.
There is a lot of discussion on the "problems" with law enforcement today. So I have to ask, what exactly do YOU think the problems are? And what do you think are some realistic long term solutions to these problems? Can you hash that thought out into something detailed?
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There is a lot of discussion on the "problems" with law enforcement today. So I have to ask, what exactly do YOU think the problems are? And what do you think are some realistic long term solutions to these problems? Can you hash that thought out into something detailed?
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Have a new job; Community liason officer. These would be the new recruits of the police and for the first year they would be in high vis yellow not black and not armed.
They would be tasked with all the not that serrious trouble that the police have to deal with all the time, such as difficult mentally disturbed types needing a sorting out and stuff. The "you cannot seel your knock off CD's here" type of thing. They would generally be the first on the scene of potential troubel. The first to respond to the noisy party situation.
Obviosly they would be fee to call in back up if required.
By doing this they would learn that most troubles can be dealt with with the gun.
I would gather inner-city community leaders together (not the likes of Jackson or Sharpton, btw) for a heart-to-heart. I would admit to the shortcomings of police departments nationwide when it comes to appropriate initial training, ongoing refresher training, community involvement, oversight, transparency, timely investigation and public disclosure. Then I would proceed to tell them how THEIR police department was going to change.
Appropriate Initial Training -- I would let them know that we believe we haven't focused enough on de-escalation. That we wanted to put together a community focus group of a half-dozen interested members of the community to work with us in developing a de-escalation training program QUICKLY...and one that would and could evolve as we carefully tracked field experience. And that last part segues right into the Refresher Training.
Community Involvement -- i would tell them how important I thought it was for our officers to interact with their community in some organized social ways. Perhaps school assembles talking about law enforcement as a career... youth group involvement... maybe a cop vs firemen basketball tourney in the neighborhood with the neighborhood fielding a couple of teams... A summer cookout hosted by the cops, firemen and paramedics... a few all-night sleepovers with the cops and young kids... And again asking for a group of three or four to help identify helpful events and help support them in the community.
Oversight, Transparency, Timely Investigation and Public Disclosure -- I would let the community know that I felt many PDs had fallen woefully short in these areas. That our department's goal was a body camera on every officer and every squad car. That we would start the program within ninety days (or better, we'd already started it), and would be 100% compliant within 6 months. I would let the community know we wanted four or five of their members to serve with other oversight members to review perceived problems and make recommendations for disposition. I'd let them know that a public review of particular situations would begin within thirty days of report, and completion/recommendations would be targeted at 90 days or sooner.
In closing, I would ask for a focus group to look at other things the community thought we might do to facilitate a greater sense of cooperation and trust between our PD and their residents... Including what the community might do to help its members interact in a more safe manner with our officers.
Well... You asked.
My parents would have said bring back segregation.
You posted on a Saturday... give it time.You I am a little sad this topic isn't more popular, but I'm not surprised
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Great post. I would add legitimate punishment (prosecution, etc.) when warranted. The idea is out there, and I don't think it's wrong, that when a cop does go rogue they still are protected by the system and get off in pretty much all except the most egregious and undeniable high-profile cases.I would gather inner-city community leaders together (not the likes of Jackson or Sharpton, btw) for a heart-to-heart. I would admit to the shortcomings of police departments nationwide when it comes to appropriate initial training, ongoing refresher training, community involvement, oversight, transparency, timely investigation and public disclosure. Then I would proceed to tell them how THEIR police department was going to change.
Appropriate Initial Training -- I would let them know that we believe we haven't focused enough on de-escalation. That we wanted to put together a community focus group of a half-dozen interested members of the community to work with us in developing a de-escalation training program QUICKLY...and one that would and could evolve as we carefully tracked field experience. And that last part segues right into the Refresher Training.
Community Involvement -- i would tell them how important I thought it was for our officers to interact with their community in some organized social ways. Perhaps school assembles talking about law enforcement as a career... youth group involvement... maybe a cop vs firemen basketball tourney in the neighborhood with the neighborhood fielding a couple of teams... A summer cookout hosted by the cops, firemen and paramedics... a few all-night sleepovers with the cops and young kids... And again asking for a group of three or four to help identify helpful events and help support them in the community.
Oversight, Transparency, Timely Investigation and Public Disclosure -- I would let the community know that I felt many PDs had fallen woefully short in these areas. That our department's goal was a body camera on every officer and every squad car. That we would start the program within ninety days (or better, we'd already started it), and would be 100% compliant within 6 months. I would let the community know we wanted four or five of their members to serve with other oversight members to review perceived problems and make recommendations for disposition. I'd let them know that a public review of particular situations would begin within thirty days of report, and completion/recommendations would be targeted at 90 days or sooner.
In closing, I would ask for a focus group to look at other things the community thought we might do to facilitate a greater sense of cooperation and trust between our PD and their residents... Including what the community might do to help its members interact in a more safe manner with our officers.
Well... You asked.
You posted on a Saturday... give it time.
Great post. I would add legitimate punishment (prosecution, etc.) when warranted. The idea is out there, and I don't think it's wrong, that when a cop does go rogue they still are protected by the system and get off in pretty much all except the most egregious and undeniable high-profile cases.
Note this post only pertains to what police need. The "other side" needs to change, too, most definitely, but this thread is not about that.
The "other side" absolutely IS important. Neither side operates in a vacuum. But, that wasn't part of your original question.Well I don't know. I do agree about prosecution. But we can't separate the "other side" from the equation. It is just as important. The escalation has resulted in the NEED for more "paranoid" tactics from law enforcement. Not just the desire. I mean any officer will tell you that they are not hiding when they write reports in public. They have to watch their backs at all times.
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The "other side" absolutely IS important. Neither side operates in a vacuum. But, that wasn't part of your original question.
We could talk about both, and we do do that from time to time, but sometimes it helps to separate the two to hopefully focus and get an undistracted picture. That's what I hoped was going on here.
Ex cop here.
More psych profiling before hiring... imho 20% of officers have no biz wearing a badge, they lack self-control and/or have anger or ego issues.
Make police academy training about twice as long. Spend much of the extra time focusing on Peel's Principles and how to implement same. Spend twice as much time on HTH and custodial restraint methods... back in my day we often dove in and grabbed the guy, we didn't have tazers. These days, they don't seem to know what to do if the tazer fails but shoot.... or dogpile officers until the perp can't breathe.
Reduce the militarization, cut back on the MRAPS and SWAT teams. Honestly they are rarely needed... lots of Podunk towns now have a SWAT team and might actually need it once in fifty years, but they USE it cuz they have to justify having it.
Final thought.... as an ex cop I will admit there is most DEFINITELY an "us vs them" in law enforcement, a "thin blue line" thing where officers tend to close ranks and mouths when they know damn well Ofc. Bluto has been a loose cannon for years. This needs to be rooted out of the system... when a cop goes bad it is TWICE as important that justice is done and SEEN to be done.
Now on the flip side... there is a lot to be said about politicians giving police impossible missions and ****ty laws to enforce, and certain elements of the citizenry making it all but impossible to keep the peace in their neighborhoods...
They call those police service techs and I actually have batted that idea around. We have them here. They are mainly for traffic crashes and minor investigative work. Kind of like meter maids. They don't carry guns either. Would be an interesting way of stepping them into the field. One of the first things you should learn in the public service or any profession that involves dealing with the public on a regular basis is that it doesn't matter how many people you meet that are nice, there are always going to be assholes. Bus you should learn how to handle assholes.
My job involves a lot of conversations with people and a lot of liability or insurance type laws. Property damage basically. I had a guy the other day screaming at me the exact same sentence over and over again and I just couldn't help but laugh when his string of cuss words involve some colorful use of things like stuff Christmas turkey. It of course made him absolutely livid that I laughed at him. But sadly in my office some people still get mad at that kind of stuff. I don't take it personally something or just too stupid to help themselves. That is a lesson that some rookie cops need to learn a little faster. And that is something I have heard from multiple officers not just coming from the armchair quarterbacking the job.
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I isn't just about cops. We all know there are some bad cops and it's not even a argument.
But for the most part, the people are a larger part of the problem.
There is a lot of discussion on the "problems" with law enforcement today. So I have to ask, what exactly do YOU think the problems are? And what do you think are some realistic long term solutions to these problems? Can you hash that thought out into something detailed?
Sent from my grapefruit using smoke signals.
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