As the Obama regimes has done...say the war on terror is over and rename it.
Or use the old Clinton program "Aspirin factories for peace".Maybe the administration could call it an "Islamic Outreach Program". :mrgreen:
Maybe the administration could call it an "Islamic Outreach Program". :mrgreen:
Μολὼν λαβέ;1063803101 said:Or how about this? The Arab Spring.
Its been 13 years since 9/11 and yet it seems there are now more terrorists than ever before. Can this war be won? What are your thoughts on this? Are the governments of the West doing the right things or are they making the situation worse?
As for me, I dont want to see another American solider or civilian killed in a pointless war with no end. The West needs to stop minding the business of other countries. No more overseas military bases or occupation- if these Islamists want to live according to their religion then I say let them do it. These very governments like Saudi Arabia, who we are fighting with to maintain their status quo over there are the very people who bankroll these terrorists. The US has got the largest shale oil deposits in the world- more than the entire middle east combined, why not spend billions in developing these fields and get oil form then instead of letting the Arabs do it and paying them for it?
Μολὼν λαβέ;1063803101 said:Or how about this? The Arab Spring.
As the Obama regime has done...say the war on terror is over and then rename it.
(And we aren't going to end this war, because we dont have the stomach to do what it takes)
How about "War on Crime"?
I dont care how crazy Islamists live in their societies, when they are muslim societies, since that is a part of what has produced them, but they have brought it to western societies, and they are a scourge. Imo, it is a shame that we can't turn them into dust. Every single one.
(And we aren't going to end this war, because we dont have the stomach to do what it takes)
I dont care how crazy Islamists live in their societies, when they are muslim societies, since that is a part of what has produced them, but they have brought it to western societies, and they are a scourge. Imo, it is a shame that we can't turn them into dust. Every single one.
(And we aren't going to end this war, because we dont have the stomach to do what it takes)
And what exactly is 'to do what it takes'?
It's there in black and white in the post. Genocide. Bomb them all and turn them to dust.
The MidEast is about Energy, "War is good business," hegemony, and a foolish support of scumbag leaders in the ME by US Intelligence agencies and their covert agendas. It doesn't sound like a basis for a peace plan or humanitarian endeavor to me.
That does not sound like a consistent argument.
Its been 13 years since 9/11 and yet it seems there are now more terrorists than ever before. Can this war be won? What are your thoughts on this? Are the governments of the West doing the right things or are they making the situation worse?
It's like (I believe someone else mentioned it earlier) a War on Crime. Terrorism isn't something that can be defeated, but everyone has a vested interest in stopping it. That's going to require an international commitment, with cooperation between local actors and foreign powers.
As to how the United States should handle terrorism, it's been doing a decent job so far. We could have helped to design a better (read: more decentralized) Afghan government, but so long as we maintain an airbase there that we'll use on al-Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan and in Pakistan, we can help preserve its stability and prevent al-Qaeda from gaining another foothold. Airstrikes should be conducted on al-Qaeda terrorist cells in Yemen, Somalia, and other places, since they pose the greatest threat to America. Our current plan against ISIS - where we build a coalition of Middle Eastern forces to fight terrorism and then provide what they can't - works because it assigns the greatest responsibility to regional forces while still accomplishing our interests.
Most importantly, the root cause of terrorism is sectarian regimes and dictatorships. The policies of leaders like Assad and Gaddafi serve to inflame sectarian strife and thus provide breeding grounds for extremists. Therefore, undermining such regimes will advance the interests of counter-terrorism in the long run.
I see what you mean about that no-good Qaddaffi. He gave Libyans free food, free housing, free education through University and free energy and water and pretty much spoiled those bastards so bad that the current instability/chaos/death brought upon Libya is something those confounded Libyans should be thanking us for, eh? A well-run, well-oiled insurrection by the CIA and its colored flag operation, a/k/a false flag. Why haven't I seen those thankless Libyans lining up to kiss Obama's ring for helping them out?
Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
I dont care how crazy Islamists live in their societies, when they are muslim societies, since that is a part of what has produced them, but they have brought it to western societies, and they are a scourge. Imo, it is a shame that we can't turn them into dust. Every single one.
(And we aren't going to end this war, because we dont have the stomach to do what it takes)
I understand mines not a popular view as far as some are concerned but i for one am grateful that not every single person living in a Muslim society has been turned to dust.
Genocide is disgusting and anyone who advocates it is just as bat **** crazy as the bastards cutting of peoples heads right now.
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