How did Bill Clinton go down as a great president for African Americans?

[Winston]

He passed the crime bill which decimated some of their communities. A bill that Joe Biden authored if I’m not mistaken. Both of them seem more like Trojan horses for white supremacy

 

[MamboDervish]

He passed the crime bill which decimated some of their communities. A bill that Joe Biden authored if I’m not mistaken. Both of them seem more like Trojan horses for white supremacy

I think at some point you're going to have to accept the fact that African Americans are smart enough to know who they want in office, who they don't want, and what their own reasons are. If you start by giving them credit for knowing who to choose, you might answer your own question.

 

[Winston]

I think at some point you're going to have to accept the fact that African Americans are smart enough to know who they want in office, who they don't want, and what their own reasons are. If you start by giving them credit for knowing who to choose, you might answer your own question.

great non answer

 

[Athanasius68]

He passed the crime bill which decimated some of their communities. A bill that Joe Biden authored if I’m not mistaken. Both of them seem more like Trojan horses for white supremacy

The crime bill was in response to all communities, but particularly black communities, being decimated by crime.
It is unclear why cracking down on crime is 'white supremacy.'

 

[Winston]

The crime bill was in response to all communities, but particularly black communities, being decimated by crime.
It is unclear why cracking down on crime is 'white supremacy.'

The harsh sentencing contributed to the prison industrial complex, which locked up a disproportionate amount of African Americans. Whites and blacks use drugs at the same rates but blacks are twice as likely to be arrested and receive longer sentences.

United States - Punishment and Prejudice: Racial Disparities in the War on Drugs

www.hrw.org

If you pass a law with clear implications for a community like that the true purpose becomes clear doesn’t it?

or was The Stamp Act just about newspapers too?

 

[Athanasius68]

The harsh sentencing contributed to the prison industrial complex, which locked up a disproportionate amount of African Americans. Whites and blacks use drugs at the same rates but blacks are twice as likely to be arrested and receive longer sentences.

United States - Punishment and Prejudice: Racial Disparities in the War on Drugs

www.hrw.org

If you pass a law with clear implications for a community like that the true purpose becomes clear doesn’t it?

or was The Stamp Act just about newspapers too?

The "prison industrial complex"? Be serious.
Crime was a problem. The '94 law was a response to it; crime has declined over the past quarter century.
Its a pretty weak and pathetic 'white supremacy' that responds to, and seeks to reduce and stop, crime in black communities.

 

[Winston]

The "prison industrial complex"? Be serious.
Crime was a problem. The '94 law was a response to it; crime has declined over the past quarter century.
Its a pretty weak and pathetic 'white supremacy' that responds to, and seeks to reduce and stop, crime in black communities.

You should read up on the effects of the crime bill because you seem unaware of what it actually did

 

[Athanasius68]

You should read up on the effects of the crime bill because you seem unaware of what it actually did

It reduced crime.

 

[Winston]

It reduced crime.

Crime peaked in ‘91. 3 years before it passed

 

[Athanasius68]

Crime peaked in ‘91. 3 years before it passed

Like I said, the bill reduced crime.

 

[Winston]

Like I said, the bill reduced crime.

It wasn’t law when crime peaked?

 

[Perotista]

He passed the crime bill which decimated some of their communities. A bill that Joe Biden authored if I’m not mistaken. Both of them seem more like Trojan horses for white supremacy

Bill Clinton is ranked 15th by all Americans in presidential rankings of all 46 presidents. Of the most recent president's since WWII, Bill is ranked ahead of most except for FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, JFK and Reagan. If one goes back 50 years and begins at 1970, only Reagan ranks above Bill Clinton. Reagan at 13 and Bill Clinton at 15. This ranking is of all Americans, not just blacks.

Blacks have had a long history of voting Democratic since FDR and the Great Depression. Fact is most Americans of all races were voting Democratic during the Great Depression. FDR offered hope which the Republicans didn't. Blacks remained loyal to the Democratic Party ever since. It took IKE to get whites to finally vote Republican, he also received 39% of the black vote in 1956 and Nixon received 32% in 1960. Then Goldwater happened and ever since around 90% of all blacks were voting Democratic. Whites since 1968 have gone Republican. So there's a huge racial voting gap. Since 1960 only two Republican candidates has received 15% of the black vote. Nixon in 1968 and Ford in 1976. Trump's 12% in 2020 was the most since Dole received 12% back in 1996. Single digits for GOP presidential candidate is the norm since then. Trump received 58% of the white vote in 2020 which is basically the average white vote for Republican presidential candidates going back to and including 1968.

I've always wonder why the question of why Republicans can't win or get the black vote is constantly asked. But why Democrats can't win or get the white vote isn't.

As for Bill Clinton, blacks are always going to see any Democratic president in a favorable view or positive with Republican presidents in the negative. So no surprise there. In my lifetime, I was born right after WWII, I rank IKE as the best, JFK in second with Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan being numbers 3 and 4, some days swapping places. But the fact Bill Clinton is seen as the second best president since 1970 by all Americans of all races and religion, simply means he was a good president to us all.

 

[j brown's body]

I thought clinton was a pretty lousy president. His personal issues certainly got in the way of him doing more. But the crime bill and welfare reform were right out of the GOP playbook.

Crime could have been dealt with in a more productive way, particularly with mental health and drug treatment. The cure the crime bill gave us was about as bad as the disease.