Fledermaus
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I had a friend who met Fidel Castro and his brother Raol a number of years ago! And still he had to change his sleeping arrangements in case the CIA or FBI tried to assassinate either!
I'm a humanist, I gave the dictionary meaning and what it represents! Any extremism is wrong the left or right! You don't give nations democracy, that's called genocide, when you use bombs, Aircraft, tanks, ships missiles and soldiers! Libya, Sudan Iraq, Syria, Yemen.
What's your opinion of socialism? I did live in a socialist country until thatcher was elected, then we went extreme! Every tax payers asset stolen, sold off, to friends, promises broken, and usury which was illegal, became the norm!
A collect agreement so child poverty doesn't exist! Education, free university education free, provided you reach minimum acceptable entry levels. Any trade or profession one wants, the ability to train! Housing fit to live in! Social inclusion! Free health services, free at the point of need, regardless of race colour of creed! Free dental treatment, free at the point of need! Statuary pensions. This is what we had, and could readily afford, myself I'm still quite happy to pay tax to ensure every single person, man woman or child, has no need to die for the want of medical treatment. We all have a responsibility to provide the finances to have a secure, stable society, where individuals aspirations are attainable and not restricted by social deprivation.Regardless of your rhetoric, you still haven't pointed out any benefit "for humanity".
Yes of course, but I said usury, do you need me to forward you the meaning?UK banks charged no interest on loans before Thatcher?
If it was a natural right the govt would not be involved. Our military was created by the Constitution and Congress. Everybody pays for it, benefits are ethereal not actual in general. Our military is based on socialism.Clearly you do not know what Socialism is.
Definition of SOCIALISM
any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods; a system of society or group living in which there is no private property… See the full definitionwww.merriam-webster.com
Regardless of how many times you spoken of it, you are still wrong.
The military is not socialism.
Like the individual "right" of self defense, the military is a natural product of a society's "right" to protect itself, and was in existence long before Socialism was ever developed as political and economic theory.
So no it is not Socialism.
Yes of course, but I said usury, do you need me to forward you the meaning?
Thatcher encouraged people to buy their homes, when interest rates were 3%, though deregulation of the banks and the revocation of the multiplier, interest rates went to 17.5%! A mortgage £180.00 went to over five hundred pounds a month! Thousands of families list there homes and breadwinner, as Thatcher stated there is no such thing as family!
If it was a natural right the govt would not be involved. Our military was created by the Constitution and Congress. Everybody pays for it, benefits are ethereal not actual in general. Our military is based on socialism.
Government/collective ownership of all things is bad. Period.What's your opinion of socialism? I did live in a socialist country until thatcher was elected, then we went extreme! Every tax payers asset stolen, sold off, to friends, promises broken, and usury which was illegal, became the norm!
If that's what you think the definition of Socialism is, go back to school. You make the definition so broad it would encompass virtually every nation on Earth.How come the evil socialist government-run security force known as the U.S. Military is somehow magically not Socialism?
It's government-run.
It's entirely controlled by one commander and chief who directs all of its decisions.
There's no private competition of any kind allowed in America.
Kinda seems like socialism to me.
How come the evil socialist government-run security force known as the U.S. Military is somehow magically not Socialism?
It's government-run.
It's entirely controlled by one commander and chief who directs all of its decisions.
There's no private competition of any kind allowed in America.
Kinda seems like socialism to me.
Government/collective ownership of all things is bad. Period.
There is a difference between the concept of socialism and a society determining that some things are best handled through government service and taxation. Leftists believe that anything the people pay for through taxation and government = socialism. Its foolishness.
The problem with your premise is that it never stops. 2%for the poor hungry chirruns. 6% for the roads. 7% for free education from cradle to grave. 26% for 'free' healthcare. 4% for fire dept. 3% for police and ambulance services. 3% for prison care. 8% for prison after care programs. 11% for housing. Now we are up to 60% taxation...but hey...you can still keep $16,000 to pay for your home, your car, your insurance, your own food, your clothes, etc.It's not black and white, right or wrong, that's over simplifying, a balance to pacify ones own parochial thinking!
Work out for yourself, if you earn $40,000 a year, and taxation increases by 2% and it stops children going hungry, in your whole nation, would you pay the 2%?
If you saw a dog in the street, it's ribs showing, would you want the owners punished?
The children is represented by the dog, the owner of the dog, represents government!
How come the evil socialist government-run security force known as the U.S. Military is somehow magically not Socialism?
It's government-run.
It's entirely controlled by one commander and chief who directs all of its decisions.
There's no private competition of any kind allowed in America.
Kinda seems like socialism to me.
Hello!!!!!!!!!!! Of course the military is socialism. I have spoken to this for years here.
Hello!!!!!!!!!!! Of course the military is socialism. I have spoken to this for years here.
Want to see successful Socialism in action? Google and/or utube Broderhof. If you can live and believe that way, then Socialism is for you. When the whole world can live and believe that way, Socialism will work for everyone.
We, on the other hand, live way beyond merely "keeping up with the Jones"; we now live a "Branded" upscale culture. Quit kidding yourselves that we're ready for real Socialism.
Who here thinks "from those who can, to those who need"? Sure, we'll give small portion of our wealth to others, but egalitarian we are not.
No, we're not cut out for Socialism, not by a long shot. Hypocrites.
PS> The military is an oligarchy. Hopefully based on merit. Far from egalitarian. Far from Socialist.
PS> This has got to be one of the worst polls I've seen on this forum. Obviously not meant to be taken seriously.
So do you believe that whenever a government does anything, that should be referred to as "socialism"?
It is, for the most part, a socialist system. The thing is that socialist systems can exist in capitalist societies but capitalist systems are always squeezed out of socialist societies so they always have to operate underground.How come the evil socialist government-run security force known as the U.S. Military is somehow magically not Socialism?
It's government-run.
It's entirely controlled by one commander and chief who directs all of its decisions.
There's no private competition of any kind allowed in America.
Kinda seems like socialism to me.
The Right seems to think so... unless it relates to law enforcement or the military. Everything else to them is socialism.
I find it as inane as people on the left claiming that socialism is just flowers, bunnies and expanded social safety net.
How come the evil socialist government-run security force known as the U.S. Military is somehow magically not Socialism?
It's government-run.
It's entirely controlled by one commander and chief who directs all of its decisions.
There's no private competition of any kind allowed in America.
Kinda seems like socialism to me.
I find it as inane as people on the left claiming that socialism is just flowers, bunnies and expanded social safety net.
I voted Hunter Biden because nothing else matters at the moment!
Clearly you do not know what Socialism is.
Definition of SOCIALISM
any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods; a system of society or group living in which there is no private property… See the full definitionwww.merriam-webster.com
Regardless of how many times you spoken of it, you are still wrong.
The military is not socialism.
Like the individual "right" of self defense, the military is a natural product of a society's "right" to protect itself, and was in existence long before Socialism was ever developed as political and economic theory.
So no it is not Socialism.
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