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Thats EXACTLY what I am saying. If there is evidence that it impacts the job, the employer should have every right to fire them.
If there is nothing evidencing impact on the job, an employer has no right delving into the private lives of its employees. You don't surrender your entire life to an employer as a condition of employment.
I agree that drug usage outside of the job is frankly none of the employer's business. However, the employer should be able to require anything from an employee. If someone wants to own a business and not allow black people to frequent it, I think they should be able to. They can, however, expect to lose my business.
Well, there's a first, we agree on something.....
I think you mean LSD, not LCD. Well then let us take two Schedule 1 drugs as an example. How is LSD as dangerous as methamphetamine? And if it is not, how does the government justify categorizing them in the same category?
Absolutely erroneous. This is a myth:Thanks for the correction, I did mean LSD (typo). And LSD is very dangerous, one thing it does is lodge itself in your spine, and can be released randomly causing a trip.
I've taken LSD around 10 times and I've never seen a pterodactyl or anything that was not there. There's usually visual distortion(objects undulating) but not actual hallucinations, at least for me. LSD is only a danger for those who do not know what they are dealing with and those who have a family history of schizophrenia.My cousin was in a car with a driver who used to do LSD. He had a trip and swerved though several lanes on the interstate to avoid hitting the pterodactyl in the middle of the road. LSD can also cause serious mental side effects in people who use it.
It seems we agree on this.I don't think the government should put all drugs and illegal substances under the same category. I strongly support having simple fines or community service followed by rehab for drug users. Jailing them is too much in my opinion. Not all drugs are equal, and thus punishments should be altered in severity in relation to the drug. Right now my uncle is in jail for selling ecstasy, his sentence (if I remember correctly) is 10-20 years in prison (although they are appealing and it looks like they may win with an appeal for a lighter sentence). I think the jails are too crowded, they should be there for rapists and murderers, not occasional drug users.
Absolutely erroneous. This is a myth:
Urban legends about illegal drugs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I've taken LSD around 10 times and I've never seen a pterodactyl or anything that was not there. There's usually visual distortion(objects undulating) but not actual hallucinations, at least for me. LSD is only a danger for those who do not know what they are dealing with and those who have a family history of schizophrenia.
It seems we agree on this.
I know several people for whom LSD triggered a psychotic episode, one of them ended up in mental care for more than 10 years.
Not a drug to be taken lightly with the concept of having "fun".
Two entirely different animals, the dangers posed are very different as well, but the level of "dangerousness" is considered to be comparable by the law-makers.I think you mean LSD, not LCD. Well then let us take two Schedule 1 drugs as an example. How is LSD as dangerous as methamphetamine? And if it is not, how does the government justify categorizing them in the same category?
I agree. I've worked with a few who seemed to have no predisposition for psychosis, yet after using LSD, had a psychotic break. This does not happen all the time, of course, but it can occur.
I wonder what this is supposed to mean?1. The Drug War is nothing but socialism for the Police
Right, well, that's very charitable and caring of you. :lol:2. They can seek help themselves (through friends, family, etc) or Meet the Reaper
I'd like to get some regular money to pay the rent and buy food and stuff as well, and I promise never to bother you again. lolthe way to solve the drug problem, is to give each addict two pounds of their drug of choice, every week. soon the problem would be over. Harsh, but hey---:shock:
I agree. I've worked with a few who seemed to have no predisposition for psychosis, yet after using LSD, had a psychotic break. This does not happen all the time, of course, but it can occur.
It's more of a start. As far as I'm concerned, I strongly support governmental social programs to help the needy... however, I do not support those being helped NOT doing something to help themselves. Using governmental money for food, shelter, clothing, and to improve their lives so that they no longer need government assistance would be far less possible if they are using the governments money for drugs... currently illegal, anyway. As far as I'm concerned, if one wants help, one must be willing to help themselves, also.
Or a great way to get kids who are heading down an addictive path to getting some help. This already occurs in a lot of the schools I deal with.
With the plan that I outlined, and the fact that a majority (as far as I can recall) of major crimes involve some sort of intoxication/drugs/alcohol, this seems to be a reasonable deterrent towards someone getting help.
How different are the reactions to an "overdose" of cigarettes to an overdose of heroin? That should tell you something, too.
So you support the stomp on those on Welfare rights simply because YOU do not feel they are doing enough? You think it warrents a drug test simply cause you feel they could do more? Are you aware that you simply cannot be on welfare in most states these days without looking for work? I would have thought you knew that. But no matter. You wish to make these folks feel like crap by making them feel sub-human. Unreal!
Then lets not simply kick those welfare folks down by being even more involved into their lives lets start drug testing teens in public schools! Again: Unreal and let me tell you this: there is no way in hell that should be legal! If I had a child in a school that did this? I would be contacting the ACLU! :shock:
The majority of pedofreaks are white males. Guess we need to round em all up and put em into some sort of program. Social program for all white males. Especially if they happen to be Catholic.
Still does not change my fact..
But it places it in perspective.
The hell it does and I am done speaking with you! (Edit-mean in this thread. )
You keep on thinking we should treat those on Welfare as subhumans and keep supporting them having to pee in a cup to PLEASE people like you and I will keep on thinking they should be treated with the same kind of dignity and respect as any other human being on this planet has!
You keep on thinking making some teen in the ghetto being devalued by having to pee in a cup is gonna prevent any damn thing and I will keep thinking that we need to treat people like people, create MORE social programs that make these folks you seem to wish to devalue and knock down a peg or two like real people!
I am sorry but we are gonna agree to disagree..
Meanwhile I will keep writing letters and trying to create better ideas and social programs on how to help folks that need it without somehow making it all seem criminal in the process.
You have a cool night..
A thread on civil rights?Private Employers? Maybe. Others? Not so much. I feel it is a tread on civil rights.
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