How can the right even suggest that they are Christian[W:487]

[JayDubya]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

When you read my comment did you run and get your bible and American flag to wrap yourself with them, I know what your liberty is, it like your parties patriot act ,that just was an excuse to make Torture OK and no patriot would even consider. I know all about you hero's.

Lol wut?

Sure, the Libertarian Party passed the Patriot Act and loves it.

When I asked you to derp moar, I didn't mean go full hurr durr.

You never go full hurr durr.

 

[jbander]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

Lol wut?

Sure, the Libertarian Party passed the Patriot Act and loves it.

When I asked you to derp moar, I didn't mean go full hurr durr.

You never go full hurr durr.

Do you know what the USA Freedom act is, Check into it, Who voted against it. "This not only included Rep. Justin Amash, R-Mich., who spearheaded a bipartisan push to end blanket surveillance in 2013, but a virtual who's who of libertarian-leaning Republican members of the House and their conservative fellow travelers: Thomas Massie, Raul Labrador, Dave Brat, Tim Huelskamp, Jim Jordan, Tom McClintock, Mark Meadows, Mick Mulvaney, Walter Jones, Mark Sanford and Jimmy Duncan. Duncan is the only Republican still in Congress who voted against the Iraq War." They voted against this bill which was to reins in the National Security Agency's bulk telephone metadata collection program from the what everyone, The patriot act.

 

[ksu_aviator]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

Your interpretation is Cherry picked , I'll let anyone here to read Psalm 72 and decide for themselves or look up a few thoughts on what ithers thinks it means. By the way it is a psalm saying much so be prepared to read. it will take a while. or just read the psalm.

You are accuse me of cherry picking? I gave you a link that supported my position. It is in simple english. You seem to be adding meanings that just aren't there.

I'll make this simple God select Kings and demands that they do as he would.

Those are individuals. Say it with me; in...duh...vid..you...lllsss.

"“He will defend the afflicted among the people and save the children of the needy; He will crush the oppressor” (vs. 4). In a good government, the weak and powerless need not worry: oppressors cannot thrive. A good government is a protector of the “afflicted” and “needy”.A Study in Psalms:<br> Psalms 72 "

The link supports everything I said. Thank you for supporting my position.

The regressives Idea that all the needy are people who lack the willingness to work is garbage ,Or even a large part of them is still garbage, back it up . (that was to all regressive.) I' would do your favor if I could, I can't. You can not respond if it bothers you that much.

I know people exactly like that. You can also find news article after news article giving examples of that. But, many (maybe even most) use programs to bounce back. Even if they do, it is still better for help to come locally.

 

[RAMOSS]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

I see nothing indicating FDR is referring to the minimum wage in that excerpt. Furthermore, since the inception of the minimum wage it has never provided a "living wage", even when adjusted for inflation. Look it up.

Gave the wrong link.

From the FDR Library

Franklin D. Roosevelt Presidential Library and Museum - Our Documents

Two different paragraphs I think are important.

In my Inaugural I laid down the simple proposition that nobody is going to starve in this country. It seems to me to be equally plain that no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country. By "business" I mean the whole of commerce as well as the whole of industry; by workers I mean all workers, the white collar class as well as the men in overalls; and by living wages I mean more than a bare subsistence level-I mean the wages of decent living.

 

[countryboy]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

Gave the wrong link.

From the FDR Library

Franklin D. Roosevelt Presidential Library and Museum - Our Documents

Two different paragraphs I think are important.

So you agree with FDR, shocker. What does that have to do with your claim that "businesses thrived when minimum wage was a living wage"? That was patently false, and no amount of backpedaling or fawning over FDR will change that.

Minimum wage since 1938 - CNNMoney

 

[RAMOSS]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

So you agree with FDR, shocker. What does that have to do with your claim that "businesses thrived when minimum wage was a living wage"? That was patently false, and no amount of backpedaling or fawning over FDR will change that.

Minimum wage since 1938 - CNNMoney

Shrug?? So. That was the intention , and that is a good way to go. The elite always whined because of their greed.

 

[countryboy]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

Shrug?? So. That was the intention , and that is a good way to go. The elite always whined because of their greed.

Lol, that's the thing about leftists, stated intention is all that matters, never mind actual outcomes. :roll: :roll: :roll: Modern liberalism always generates the exact opposite of it's stated intent. I guess it's the thought that counts.

Thanks for admitting you made that **** up about "businesses thriving when minimum wage was a living wage". Not that there was ever any doubt.

 

[jbander]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

You are accuse me of cherry picking? I gave you a link that supported my position. It is in simple english. You seem to be adding meanings that just aren't there.



Those are individuals. Say it with me; in...duh...vid..you...lllsss.



The link supports everything I said. Thank you for supporting my position.



I know people exactly like that. You can also find news article after news article giving examples of that. But, many (maybe even most) use programs to bounce back. Even if they do, it is still better for help to come locally.

I got to a point that your so irrational that I just didn't think anything you said or linked was worth any effort. If anyone is interested simply look at psalms 72 and decide what it means yourself. This guy hates it because it doesn't say what he wants it to say. Look for yourself, hell thats always the best way anyway,

 

[RAMOSS]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

Lol, that's the thing about leftists, stated intention is all that matters, never mind actual outcomes. :roll: :roll: :roll: Modern liberalism always generates the exact opposite of it's stated intent. I guess it's the thought that counts.

Thanks for admitting you made that **** up about "businesses thriving when minimum wage was a living wage". Not that there was ever any doubt.

Yes, you keep saying things like that. Yet, you never seem to be able to actualy show it to be true. It's talking points, and Theodoric,

 

[countryboy]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

Yes, you keep saying things like that. Yet, you never seem to be able to actualy show it to be true. It's talking points, and Theodoric,

I linked to the figures adjusted for inflation. What, CNN not a liberal enough source for you? How about Oregon State University?

U.S. Minimum Wage History

 

[Logicman]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

Not sure of your point...but American conservatism is primarily about "hooray for me, screw you."

It is obvious.

They work hard and don't like to subsidize parasites.

But the fact remains, conservatives give more to charities than do liberals. So who's really the 'screw you' people?

 

[jbander]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

Lol, that's the thing about leftists, stated intention is all that matters, never mind actual outcomes. :roll: :roll: :roll: Modern liberalism always generates the exact opposite of it's stated intent. I guess it's the thought that counts.

Thanks for admitting you made that **** up about "businesses thriving when minimum wage was a living wage". Not that there was ever any doubt.

Has anyone thought about how all regressives align themselves with this issue for instance. And they think that the poor are guilty of something because they are poor or then regressives move to a idea that the poor are cheating, stealing from the government, then It was because democrats only want to take care of the needy because they are buying their vote, So democrats trying just to help can never be because they believe in helping . Democrats know that as time goes on we are increasing the number of poor in this country. Its way worse then just the lack of any income increase Since Reagan, for the poor or middle class . The real problem is how the same wages since the trickle down lie , is less and less because debt has increased so massively for the poor and the middle class, so what they make doesn't go as far as it did During the bad actors presidency. How can they click on the same attacks , the identical comments. Most issues that the regressive are against or for are from the same canned comments and Democrats know what that origin is. Simply, plainly from Fox crap news and Rush Fatty. As a group regressives range of argument goes from Fox Crap News monday to Fox crap News tuesday. The only difference that ever come out of the regressives is the difference between Fox Crap new lies for the day to the next. The poor are feeding their children by using their credit card , the poorer you are the more likely it is that your debt will be from Credit cards over way lower interest from banks. Its simple regressives issue are for taking money in massive amounts from the old, poor and needy . This comment supported by their own budget proposal, 5 trillion pulled from our budget 3.5 from the old the sick and the needy. What is it the regreissives want to do with this money cut from the needy, Paul Ryan has told us exactly from his budget proposals. Billions to the wealthy and big bussiness in tax breaks and handouts and a massive increase in the military. Their issue is taking money from the needy for any of their canned reasons , the democrats issue is taking care of the needy.

 

[jbander]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

Has anyone thought about how all regressives align themselves with this issue for instance. And they think that the poor are guilty of something because they are poor or then regressives move to a idea that the poor are cheating, stealing from the government, then It was because democrats only want to take care of the needy because they are buying their vote, So democrats trying just to help can never be because they believe in helping . Democrats know that as time goes on we are increasing the number of poor in this country. Its way worse then just the lack of any income increase Since Reagan, for the poor or middle class . The real problem is how the same wages since the trickle down lie , is less and less because debt has increased so massively for the poor and the middle class, so what they make doesn't go as far as it did During the bad actors presidency. How can they click on the same attacks , the identical comments. Most issues that the regressive are against or for are from the same canned comments and Democrats know what that origin is. Simply, plainly from Fox crap news and Rush Fatty. As a group regressives range of argument goes from Fox Crap News monday to Fox crap News tuesday. The only difference that ever come out of the regressives is the difference between Fox Crap new lies for the day to the next. The poor are feeding their children by using their credit card , the poorer you are the more likely it is that your debt will be from Credit cards over way lower interest from banks. Its simple regressives issue are for taking money in massive amounts from the old, poor and needy . This comment supported by their own budget proposal, 5 trillion pulled from our budget 3.5 from the old the sick and the needy. What is it the regreissives want to do with this money cut from the needy, Paul Ryan has told us exactly from his budget proposals. Billions to the wealthy and big bussiness in tax breaks and handouts and a massive increase in the military. Their issue is taking money from the needy for any of their canned reasons , the democrats issue is taking care of the needy.

Hay I just figured out a name for the regressives single voice/mind we will call it unithink.

 

[HowardBThiname]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

Obvious to anyone who is unwilling to pretend American conservatism is anything other than what it actually is.

Suit yourself.

 

[HowardBThiname]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

They work hard and don't like to subsidize parasites.

But the fact remains, conservatives give more to charities than do liberals. So who's really the 'screw you' people?

Absolutely true. And they don't just give money, they give of themselves. Liberals want government to do the charitable work that is really their own responsibility. Maybe they feel guilty. I don't know, but there is no question that conservatives help their neighbors and the poor much more than liberals do.

 

[Frank Apisa]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

They work hard and don't like to subsidize parasites.

But the fact remains, conservatives give more to charities than do liberals. So who's really the 'screw you' people?

The conservatives!

 

[countryboy]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

Has anyone thought about how all regressives align themselves with this issue for instance. And they think that the poor are guilty of something because they are poor or then regressives move to a idea that the poor are cheating, stealing from the government, then It was because democrats only want to take care of the needy because they are buying their vote, So democrats trying just to help can never be because they believe in helping . Democrats know that as time goes on we are increasing the number of poor in this country. Its way worse then just the lack of any income increase Since Reagan, for the poor or middle class . The real problem is how the same wages since the trickle down lie , is less and less because debt has increased so massively for the poor and the middle class, so what they make doesn't go as far as it did During the bad actors presidency. How can they click on the same attacks , the identical comments. Most issues that the regressive are against or for are from the same canned comments and Democrats know what that origin is. Simply, plainly from Fox crap news and Rush Fatty. As a group regressives range of argument goes from Fox Crap News monday to Fox crap News tuesday. The only difference that ever come out of the regressives is the difference between Fox Crap new lies for the day to the next. The poor are feeding their children by using their credit card , the poorer you are the more likely it is that your debt will be from Credit cards over way lower interest from banks. Its simple regressives issue are for taking money in massive amounts from the old, poor and needy . This comment supported by their own budget proposal, 5 trillion pulled from our budget 3.5 from the old the sick and the needy. What is it the regreissives want to do with this money cut from the needy, Paul Ryan has told us exactly from his budget proposals. Billions to the wealthy and big bussiness in tax breaks and handouts and a massive increase in the military. Their issue is taking money from the needy for any of their canned reasons , the democrats issue is taking care of the needy.

Lol.....

 

[countryboy]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

The conservatives!

The dims have held power just as much as the conservatives. Why are there still poor people?

 

[Frank Apisa]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

The dims have held power just as much as the conservatives. Why are there still poor people?

We will get to the point where everyone has sufficient...and we will do it despite the best efforts of the American conservatives to prevent that from happening.

 

[countryboy]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

We will get to the point where everyone has sufficient...and we will do it despite the best efforts of the American conservatives to prevent that from happening.

Who will facilitate this? Because the dims certainly haven't done anything to that end. Useless platitudes, with a side of horse**** sauce. :roll:

 

[Frank Apisa]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

Who will facilitate this? Because the dims certainly haven't done anything to that end. Useless platitudes, with a side of horse**** sauce. :roll:

It certainly will not come at the hand of the "hooray for me; screw you" American conservatives, Countryboy.

It probably will come by dint of Democratic Party initiatives...which at some point will become law.

About the only thing Republicans are good at when holding a majority is...chaos...which they create in abundance.

Thanks for asking.

 

[countryboy]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

It certainly will not come at the hand of the "hooray for me; screw you" American conservatives, Countryboy.

It probably will come by dint of Democratic Party initiatives...which at some point will become law.

About the only thing Republicans are good at when holding a majority is...chaos...which they create in abundance.

Thanks for asking.

Hope springs eternal. Placing your hope in government is foolhardy, at best.

So why haven't the dims ever done anything for the little guy up until now? Why are the ranks of the poor still growing? And why do you feel the need to mischaracterize all conservatives with silly blanket statements? Am I a "hooray for me, screw you" American? What do you know about me?

 

[blackjack50]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

That is an utterly ridiculous statement and analogy. It deserves no other reply.

It isn't. When you are talking about the "charity" the government gives as if the government doesn't abuse the other 80% of the money get they receive...

 

[Frank Apisa]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

Hope springs eternal. Placing your hope in government is foolhardy, at best.

Civilization needs government, Countryboy. Ronald Reagan, one of the worst presidents we've ever had...managed to make "government" into a bad word. But one of the necessities of civilization...is government.

So why haven't the dims ever done anything for the little guy up until now?

Only someone blind to political reality thinks that the Democrats have done nothing for the little guy.

Why are the ranks of the poor still growing?

We still have poor. We will always have some poorer than others. The thing to do is to try to reduce poverty. We are making inroads into that...and will make more...despite the objections of American conservatives.

You are an American conservative...right?

And why do you feel the need to mischaracterize all conservatives with silly blanket statements?

It is a generalization...I acknowledge that. But I doubt it is a mischaracterization.

Am I a "hooray for me, screw you" American?

I suspect so. I do not know for sure...but I suspect so.

What do you know about me?

Not much...but you are coming across as one of the kind of people I am talking about in this discussion.

I hope I'm wrong.

 

[RAMOSS]

Re: How can the right even suggest that they are Christian

Absolutely true. And they don't just give money, they give of themselves. Liberals want government to do the charitable work that is really their own responsibility. Maybe they feel guilty. I don't know, but there is no question that conservatives help their neighbors and the poor much more than liberals do.

Yes, conservatives love to make that claim. However, a lot of that is not 'giving to the poor', but gives to their church, which they personally benefit from. That makes that claim, dishonest.