How about we create a new constitution?

[Toothpicvic]

I'm wondering if we should scrap the original constitution and rewrite a new one - which would be exactly the same, the only difference being that it isn't dated in the 1700s and wasn't drafted by the founders. We'd still have the same constitutional law, but the "cult aura" that surrounds the Constitution and the founders wouldn't be here anymore - which would be a good thing, since the "Constitution cult" mentality that Americans have causes nothing but disruption and keeps politicians fighting over different interpretations of the constitution instead of using just plain common sense to get things done in this country.

 

[apdst]

Let's not and say we did. I don't trust none of those mother ****ers we have in office now to write a new constitution.

 

[Skateguy]

I like the Old one just fine---finest document ever written, to protect the Common Man. I'd fight for it any day---just let me finish my coffee first.:mrgreen:

 

[Jerry]

I'm wondering if we should scrap the original constitution and rewrite a new one - which would be exactly the same, the only difference being that it isn't dated in the 1700s and wasn't drafted by the founders. We'd still have the same constitutional law, but the "cult aura" that surrounds the Constitution and the founders wouldn't be here anymore - which would be a good thing, since the "Constitution cult" mentality that Americans have causes nothing but disruption and keeps politicians fighting over different interpretations of the constitution instead of using just plain common sense to get things done in this country.

Let's get a Conservative majority and President first, then sure :mrgreen:

 

[Real Korimyr #9]

The 2nd Amendment would never be ratified today.

 

[Ethereal]

I'm wondering if we should scrap the original constitution and rewrite a new one - which would be exactly the same, the only difference being that it isn't dated in the 1700s and wasn't drafted by the founders. We'd still have the same constitutional law, but the "cult aura" that surrounds the Constitution and the founders wouldn't be here anymore - which would be a good thing, since the "Constitution cult" mentality that Americans have causes nothing but disruption and keeps politicians fighting over different interpretations of the constitution instead of using just plain common sense to get things done in this country.

The old one is fine.

 

[Jerry]

Amendment 1: Congress shall pass no law.

 

[Areopagitican]

Why would we create a 'new' Constitution?

How about we follow the one we have right now?

 

[CriticalThought]

Let's get a Conservative majority and President first, then sure :mrgreen:

I don't feel like waiting until hell freezes over. :mrgreen:

 

[Toothpicvic]

I'm wondering if we should scrap the original constitution and rewrite a new one - which would be exactly the same, the only difference being that it isn't dated in the 1700s and wasn't drafted by the founders. We'd still have the same constitutional law, but the "cult aura" that surrounds the Constitution and the founders wouldn't be here anymore - which would be a good thing, since the "Constitution cult" mentality that Americans have causes nothing but disruption and keeps politicians fighting over different interpretations of the constitution instead of using just plain common sense to get things done in this country.

You totally missed the point of this thread.

 

[samsmart]

I'm wondering if we should scrap the original constitution and rewrite a new one - which would be exactly the same, the only difference being that it isn't dated in the 1700s and wasn't drafted by the founders. We'd still have the same constitutional law, but the "cult aura" that surrounds the Constitution and the founders wouldn't be here anymore - which would be a good thing, since the "Constitution cult" mentality that Americans have causes nothing but disruption and keeps politicians fighting over different interpretations of the constitution instead of using just plain common sense to get things done in this country.

No, because we'd still be arguing about the same issues that we do about the one we currently have.

 

[Toothpicvic]

No, because we'd still be arguing about the same issues that we do about the one we currently have.

But hey, at least we wouldn't have a invisible monarch anymore who everyone worships and puts on the same level as the Pope (despite the fact that they know nothing about the true founders).

Constitution cultism has ruined the system that the founders intended. We might as well have gone with Hamilton and set up a European style monarchy if we're going to treat the Constitution like the Catholic catechism.

 

[samsmart]

But hey, at least we wouldn't have a invisible monarch anymore who everyone worships and puts on the same level as the Pope (despite the fact that they know nothing about the true founders).

Constitution cultism has ruined the system that the founders intended. We might as well have gone with Hamilton and set up a European style monarchy if we're going to treat the Constitution like the Catholic catechism.

And what makes you think the new constitution won't build up a cult of it's own?

 

[oliveryty]

The old is good.

We the people of the United States, in order to form a perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for common defence, secure prosperity and the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our prosterity, do ordain and establish this CONSTITUTION of the United States of America.

 

[First Thought]

You totally missed the point of this thread.

There's a point to this thread? I thought this was a joke.

 

[Toothpicvic]

There's a point to this thread? I thought this was a joke.

That's because you lack critical thinking ability. :lol:

 

[First Thought]

That's because you lack critical thinking ability. :lol:

Yes, because I am the one proposing that we copy a document onto another piece of paper... Word for word. Brilliant strategy, sir. :doh

 

[Toothpicvic]

Yes, because I am the one proposing that we copy a document onto another piece of paper... Word for word. Brilliant strategy, sir. :doh

Read my posts. I explained why. If the Constitution didn't have it's historical significance, then maybe people would actually read it and interpret it critically instead of treating it like a demigod (even though most self described "constitutionalists" I'm betting haven't even read more than a few sentences from it).

 

[First Thought]

Read my posts. I explained why.

I did. That does not change the fact that it is an asinine waste of time and resources. Not to mention that it doesn't accomplish anything. You're operating under the assumption that people won't still idolize the Founding Fathers, which is amusing.

 

[Toothpicvic]

I did. That does not change the fact that it is an asinine waste of time and resources. Not to mention that it doesn't accomplish anything. You're operating under the assumption that people won't still idolize the Founding Fathers, which is amusing.

You're too narrow minded to discuss things with.

 

[First Thought]

You're too narrow minded to discuss things with.

...And you fail to actually address any points in my post. Not surprising. Let me know when you have data or facts to support your amusing notion that copying the Constitution word for word onto another sheet of paper is somehow going to make people not idolize the Framers.

 

[spud_meister]

I like the Old one just fine---finest document ever written, to protect the Common Man. I'd fight for it any day---just let me finish my coffee first.:mrgreen:

i dunno, i reckon The Cat in the Hat would take the cake on finest document ever.

 

[samsmart]

i dunno, i reckon The Cat in the Hat would take the cake on finest document ever.

I prefer "Green Eggs and Ham."

 

[OxymoronP]

I'm wondering if we should scrap the original constitution and rewrite a new one - which would be exactly the same, the only difference being that it isn't dated in the 1700s and wasn't drafted by the founders. We'd still have the same constitutional law, but the "cult aura" that surrounds the Constitution and the founders wouldn't be here anymore - which would be a good thing, since the "Constitution cult" mentality that Americans have causes nothing but disruption and keeps politicians fighting over different interpretations of the constitution instead of using just plain common sense to get things done in this country.

Yes lets have our corrupt, self indulgent, core of politicians write a new constitution, i am sure it would be better then what the Founding fathers did :3oops:. People like you know little about the history of the document or the people involved, they were true visioneries and people who valued nation over their personal interests. In what other country did the father of the nation step down from office, so that he would overshadow the Republic?

 

[Toothpicvic]

...And you fail to actually address any points in my post.

You made no points, just opinions that were based on your lack of reading comprehension.

Not surprising.

Yeah it's not surprising that you don't have the intellect to understand my point. Looks like you and half the other posters didn't even read my thread.

Let me know when you have data or facts to support your amusing notion that copying the Constitution word for word onto another sheet of paper is somehow going to make people not idolize the Framers.

Let me know when you have the data and the facts that prove that spirits really exist (as opposed to LSD induced hallucinations ) I never claimed to have data and facts. It was a hypothesis (the only way to get said "data and facts" would be to test it, which I doubt will ever happen).