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danarhea said:This guy's mouth is overloading his ass once again. Robertson once again is calling for the assassination of Chavez.
Hey, I have an idea. Just for grins, why dont we all call for Robertson's assassination, just to see what his reaction would be. My bet is that Robertson would whine about how wrong and unchristianlike this is. He would probably get on his phone to God to have him pull Jesus Christ out of the diamond mine where he supervises the slaves, and bring him over to preach that killing hypocritical false prophets is wrong. While his friend JC is setting everyone straight, he might as well put a curse on those who disagree with Robertson while he is at it. Lets see now, what kind of curse should Jesus put on them? How about dying of horrible and painful diseases? Wait, I've got something better. Have Jesus cause a giant F100 tornado to cross the United States killing everyone who is anti diamond mining?
Seriously, How about JC sending his best friend Robertson a telegram which says "Shut your *^%#@ing mouth and go to hell"? Yea, thats the ticket.
Geeezzzzz! You sure hit the nail on the head!!! Great post.
KCConservative said:I am no fan of Pat Robertson or of Chavez. However, I think Alan Colmes is a snake. You have to admit he worked very hard to try and get Robertson in a corner and tried to put words in his mouth. All Robertson would say is "one day he will be taken out, one day." I think it's a stretch to say that he "called for" a Chavez assasination.
danarhea said:Ahh, the "its someone elses fault" syndrome rearing its head again. How long before you blame Bill Clinton for what Robertson said?
** Gets out his watch and starts counting the seconds **
danarhea said:Ahh, the "its someone elses fault" syndrome rearing its head again. How long before you blame Bill Clinton for what Robertson said?
** Gets out his watch and starts counting the seconds **
KCConservative said:Why would I make a leap such as that? You're going to be waiting a long time, dana.
danarhea said:Why do you think that? After all, it only took you nanoseconds to try and blame what Robertson said on his interviewer. Its not such a big leap in faith to assume that it wont belong before you lay the blame on Clinton.
I still don't see what Clinton has to do with this. And I am not blaming Colmes, really. He is free to ask any questions he wants. But I do think he was trying to get Robertson pinned down. Furthermore, I think, once again, your thread title is very misleading. I showed how Robertson said that "one day" Chavez may be "taken out." Can you show us in that interview where Robertson "called for" a Chavez assasination?danarhea said:Why do you think that? After all, it only took you nanoseconds to try and blame what Robertson said on his interviewer. Its not such a big leap in faith to assume that it wont belong before you lay the blame on Clinton.
KCConservative said:I still don't see what Clinton has to do with this. And I am not blaming Colmes, really. He is free to ask any questions he wants. But I do think he was trying to get Robertson pinned down. Furthermore, I think, once again, your thread title is very misleading. I showed how Robertson said that "one day" Chavez may be "taken out." Can you show us in that interview where Robertson "called for" a Chavez assasination?
debate_junkie said:You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200508220006
Those are his direct words, transcribed. Can't get any plainer than that, KC.
Children "blame", they do not know better.Pacridge said:That's funny. It used to be death and taxes were the only things you could call absolutes. Now you can add Neo-cons will blame Clinton for any and everything...liberals will blame GW Bush. As you point out you can almost set your watch by it.
debate_junkie said:You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200508220006
Those are his direct words, transcribed. Can't get any plainer than that, KC.
Actually, that is not exactly what you said earlier. Let me remind you:KCConservative said:Those are the words he spoke in August of 2005. Yes, he said it then and I am not defending him in any way. But Dana's thread is about Robertson's most recent interview with Alan Colmes. I made that clear when I first chimed in on this thread. No matter what dana says, I am not defending Robertson and I could care less that he is a Bush supporter. It's interesting that dana always manages to find a partisan angle, but it doesn't fly here. I only pointed out what was quite evident. Colmes tried very hard to get Robertson to repeat his words from last August and Robertson wouldn't do it. After the initial flap, he seemed to have chosen his words more carefully.
Oops, those pesky audit trails on your quotes will get you every time.KCConservative said:I am no fan of Pat Robertson or of Chavez. However, I think Alan Colmes is a snake. You have to admit he worked very hard to try and get Robertson in a corner and tried to put words in his mouth. All Robertson would say is "one day he will be taken out, one day." I think it's a stretch to say that he "called for" a Chavez assasination.
When co-host Alan Colmes asked Robertson, "f he [Chavez] were assassinated, the world would be a safer place?" Robertson answered, "I think South America would." When Colmes later pressed Robertson, asking, "Do you want him [Chavez] taken out?" Robertson retorted, "Not now, but one day, one day, one day." Earlier, Colmes had asked, "Should Chavez be assassinated?" Robertson explained that "one day," Chavez will "be aiming nuclear weapons; and what's coming across the Gulf [of Mexico] isn't going to be [Hurricane] Katrina, it's going to be his nukes." Co-host Sean Hannity agreed that "the world would be better off without him where he [Chavez] is, because he is a danger to the United States."
danarhea said:Actually, that is not exactly what you said earlier. Let me remind you:
Oops, those pesky audit trails on your quotes will get you every time.
Finally, let me quote from the actual interview, so everyone can see that Robertson, indeed, is still calling for the assassination of Chavez. Whether it is now or one day is irrelevant. He still is advocating for the assassination of a democratically elected leader. This is very plain.
As you can see, the part where KC says that Robertson is saying that Chavez would be taken out one day is a little twist on words to make it seem that Robertson is moderating his position, when that is not the case. The "one day" part of this was initiated by Colmes, not Robertson. And whether he is calling for assassination now or one day doesnt matter. He is still calling for assassination. That is why KC's posting in this thread reeks of misrepresentation.
From this article.
KCConservative said:Thanks for the audit trail. It shows that I am consistant with my viewpoint.
As for what 'reeks' or what is 'twisted' or what is 'misrepresention', dana, I'm not playing that game with you today. Quit with your attacks and stay on topic, please.
danarhea said:This guy's mouth is overloading his ass once again. Robertson once again is calling for the assassination of Chavez.
Hey, I have an idea. Just for grins, why dont we all call for Robertson's assassination, just to see what his reaction would be. My bet is that Robertson would whine about how wrong and unchristianlike this is. He would probably get on his phone to God to have him pull Jesus Christ out of the diamond mine where he supervises the slaves, and bring him over to preach that killing hypocritical false prophets is wrong. While his friend JC is setting everyone straight, he might as well put a curse on those who disagree with Robertson while he is at it. Lets see now, what kind of curse should Jesus put on them? How about dying of horrible and painful diseases? Wait, I've got something better. Have Jesus cause a giant F100 tornado to cross the United States killing everyone who is anti diamond mining?
Seriously, How about JC sending his best friend Robertson a telegram which says "Shut your *^%#@ing mouth and go to hell"? Yea, thats the ticket.
Based on this article.
danarhea said:Sensitive today, arent you? Nobody is attacking you, just your misrepresentation of what Robertson said.
Let me make this easy for you. Do you admit or deny that Robertson took the position a second time that a democratically elected leader of a nation should be assassinated?
KCConservative said:I admit he said that the first time and that he probably still thinks it. But this time, he was very careful not to say it again, no matter how hard Colmes tried to bring it back up. No doubt, he believes Chavz should be assasinated and he said he thought it would happen one day. But he did not call for it.
And I think your thread title is misrepresentation. He didn't call for anything.danarhea said:And that is where you are wrong.
Colmes: "Do you want him taken out?"
Robertson: "Not now, but one day, one day, one day."
Colmes merely asked a question. Robertson answered it. Whats all this about Colmes trying to bring it up and put words in Robertson's mouth as you have been saying all along in this thread? This is why I called it misrepresentation.
KCConservative said:And I think your thread title is misrepresentation. He didn't call for anything.
danarhea said:He didnt?
Colmes: "Do you want him taken out?"
Robertson: "Not now, but one day, one day, one day."
Sure sounds like it to any reasonable person.
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