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In a blow to House GOP leaders, the House on Thursday rejected a five-year farm bill. Members voted down the $940 billion bill in a 195-234 vote that only won 24 Democratic votes. Most Democrats voted against the bill because it cut food stamp programs by more than $20 billion.
Many Republicans also voted no, but for a different reason. They said it was too expensive a bill to pass when the country has $17 trillion in debt.
In the final vote, 62 Republicans opposed the bill, and with the Democratic defections, that was enough to send it to defeat.
Read more: House rejects farm bill, 195-234 - The Hill's Floor Action
:applaud Good! Cutting food assistance to the needy is not the way to go! Austerity does not work! I applaud this being defeated! [/FONT][/COLOR]
You do realize what happens if they don't pass something don't you? $6-$8/gallon milk will punish poor people even more.
You do realize what happens if they don't pass something don't you? $6-$8/gallon milk will punish poor people even more.
Id rather have that for a short amount of time while congress goes back to the drawing board rather than have a bill pass the lasts 'x' amount of time. Should not pass a farm bill that puts the rich over the middle and working class and a bill that punishes struggling Americans. That is just not fair.
You do realize what happens if they don't pass something don't you? $6-$8/gallon milk will punish poor people even more.
I haven't followed this issue too closely, but if that is what the price should actually be, then so be it...
If the price of milk is unaffordable it should lose business. Why is that a problem?
Because you won't be able to get the milk to begin with. There is no structure in place to revert to to distribute the milk as would happen if the program is not extended.
BS, let the marketplace work its magic...
Id rather have that for a short amount of time while congress goes back to the drawing board rather than have a bill pass the lasts 'x' amount of time. Should not pass a farm bill that puts the rich over the middle and working class and a bill that punishes struggling Americans. That is just not fair.
Because you won't be able to get the milk to begin with. There is no structure in place to revert to to distribute the milk as would happen if the program is not extended.
It isn't what the price is supposed to be--it is what the price will become due to shortages. The price we pay now is an inflated price. If something is not passed, we revert to a law from the 40's that requires all milk to be sold to and bought from the government but we have no mechanism in place to do that anymore.
Which is why the government should stay out of the market.
What is not fair is spending more than your revenue. I will applaud any and all cuts until we get a handle on our spending problem.
To DemSocialist's point however I would rather see cuts in government than in assistance if it is really necessary.
Read more: House rejects farm bill, 195-234 - The Hill's Floor Action
:applaud Good! Cutting food assistance to the needy is not the way to go! Austerity does not work! I applaud this being defeated! [/FONT][/COLOR]
OK, this is not my area (along with others). What happens if our congress critters never fix this? What happens if we treat farmers like other businesses?
Then we'd get naturally ripened fruits and vegies instead of nitrogen ripened fruits and vegies. Mexico and South America will have to go pound sand though, and some won't like that calling America a protectionist country, but in reality all it really means is that we're done subsidizing other nations produce! Tim-
As someone who is actually in the farm program let me correct a few myths. First fruits and vegetables are NOT in the subsidy program. Staple crops are.
The milk program is outdated, back in the day milk was a key source of protein for children but today it is well known many african and asian americans lack the enzyme to digest milk. Today many substitutes are far healthier than milk/dairy products. Milk can be dropped without shattering the farming economy and there have been several large buy-outs attempting to reduce the dairies under subsidy. I can see a phase-out of the dairy program. many Americans are turning away from a dairy heavy diet because a more sedentary lifestyle increases heart health problems.
Actually,one of the things that has hurt the dairy industry is feed costs. Especially hard for western producers in California,which is losing dairies at a very high rate. This is largely due to ethanol. Many farmers even here are leaving the industry(California may lead in dairy production,but Wisconsin has MANY more dairy farms and infrastructure). Anyways,they are leaving milking cows for raising crops. Dairy farming when done without a parlor and help is backbreaking and also time consuming(you have to milk twice a day,larger dairies do it 3).
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