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Obama didn't demonize those things.
Yes, for the worse as evidenced by the 14 trillion dollar debt we have today because of liberal social engineering. That doesn't even count state debt so how much is enough? Why the continued confidence that the Federal Govt. can solve social problems?
I disagree. The expansion of the central government has been a wash. On the down side, we have the debt. On the up side we have our power and influence in the world. No way that would have happened in a states' rights type of governement. Conservative inflexibility would have kept us subserviant to Europe.
You seem to confuse the two, power and influence in the world has nothing to do with a strong central govt, but a strong growing economy that has been reduced due the massive debt growing and the current occupant in the WH who many like but few respect.
It is the social engineering on the part of the Federal Govt. that has created most of the debt, i.e. Great society, and that continue to deminish world respect.
It is the conservatives ideology that believes in a strong "common defense" not the liberal ideology.
CaptainCourtesy;1059142414]No, you do not seem to understand that a strong central government is essential to power and influence, economically, politically, and internationally. When you give more power to the states, you present the weakness of "committee".
In your opinion. It is the "great society" that has helped in making the US the place that people would want to immigrate to. And the US has a tremendous amount of influence and respect because of how we conduct our society.
And it is conservative ideology that has harmed our respect in the world because of how we have used our "defense".
Doesn't matter how you cut it. When you only look at one side of an issue, as you do, you fail to understand the big picture.
Sorry, but losses to this extent haven't happened since the 30's, this was a historic election across the nation. It is the results that matter, not the rhetoric which is all Obama does tells people what many want to hear. The American electorate is tired of the rhetoric.
The coalition that got Barack Obama elected President just two years ago has been shattered. Gaming out the trajectory of the next two years can be done any number of ways, but Obama's efforts to rebuild a politically robust alliance will be the most telling. It may be the biggest challenge of his career — and he will need happenstance along with skill if he is going to get it done.
A survey of the political landscape shows that many groups who were part of the 2008-09 Obama coalition have turned on him. Liberals believe he is an overcompromising wimp. (See blistering recent columns by progressive icons Paul Krugman and Frank Rich of the New York Times for a taste of what the left thinks of "their" President now.) The business community considers Obama ignorant about markets at best, a socialist at worst (O.K., some business people entertain an even harsher assessment). The media, after aiding and abetting his ride to the White House, now see the President as incompetent and overwhelmed. The independents and Republicans who backed him for office currently feel he is too liberal and too weak to do the job. These trends are all worse in Washington and among opinion leaders than they are in the country at large, but the views of elites are clearly shaping how the President is perceived by the nation in general.
Figure out the principles upon which this country was built and get back to me. Anyone that continues to demonize profits, individual wealth creation, Wall Street, or business in general has no business commenting on the past.
Results matter, not rhetoric. Some here continue to buy the rhetoric and ignore the results when you are doing when you say
Obama took an improving economy and prolonged the negativity he promoted. Since Obama took office 4 million more Americans lost their jobs, there is higher unemployment in 2010 than in 2009 on a month to month basis and 3 trillion added to the debt. That is hardly the hope and change promised and the country is fed up with the "ongoing process."
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The amount may be a record, but the trend is as I said, historically, the mid terms sees some losses by the presidents party most of the time.
Which came first, the chicken or the egg? The power that the Central govt. has in the world came from the productivity and creativity of the individuals in the states not the bureaucrats in D.C. There is a place for the Central Govt. and our Constitution provides the direction, "Promote the Common Defense" which is an interesting concept in the liberal world where it is more the "Rodney King" philosophy of "Can't we all just get along". There is strength in a strong economy and that is created at the state level, not the Federal Level. The Federal Govt. doesn't create anything other than debt. Seems we had a lot of power in the world without a 3.6 trillion dollar Central Govt. As was pointed out, we had a 250 billion dollar budget in 1965 with 175 million people, today that is 3.6 trillion for 310 million people, population doesn't double but the budget goes up 15 times. Make sense to you?
The facts seem to support my contention that the Great Society has caused most of the debt, and it wasn't the Great Society that attracted millions to this country, it was the opportunity that this country offered. The Great Society was created by LBJ in the 60's.
That is your opinion, mine is that dictators of the world that control the media thus the message only understand one thing, strength and that is what our military shows. The problem is too many won't let our military win wars because of political correctness. we cannot hurt civilians!
Always looked at issues like a balance sheet, put the assets on one side and the liabilities on the other. As long as the assets are larger than the liabilities that is a good thing. Today the liabilities are outweighing the assets and we are losing our power in the world and our economy is suffering under the weight your vision of a large central govt. has created.
By the way good job playing someone on the liberal side of the equation but like many liberals your argument is full of holes which I know someone of your intelligence understands.
Sanity wins out over the biggest tax increase in U.S. History and the tax and Spend dreams of the "Trifecta of Doom."
What is it about the simple idea that people who make over $250,000 a year are the ones who create the jobs.
We don't need more taxes we need less spending. But if your a tax and spend Lefty you have a serious lack of mental acuity.
are your blinders the same color as your koolaid?:2razz:
how dare you
can't you see what the vc did to his arms, at least
no humanity
i've never been personally offended by anything i ever read on this forum until now
and i'm no admirer of the maverick
either way, to each his own, party on
CaptainCourtesy;1059142474]As usual, you miss the big picture. The Central Government creates a strong economy; the state and local goverenments impliment it. One cannot operate without the other, but it starts from the top and flows down. Your conservative philosophy seems to forget this.
Yes, and opportunities are created by many things, no only money. Again, your conservatism is completely short-sighted. The US has always been a haven for immigrants, and the opportunity, freedom, and type of society that we have all contributes. The Great Society is part of that.
I'm not sure if this is short-sightedness or deliberate omission. There are plenty of countries, some our allies, who think less of us because of our military operations. I'm not saying that's OK, but I am saying it exists and not just with dictators.
Nah, based on your posts, anything that adheres itself to conservatism, you place as an asset, and anything liberal, you place as a liability, regardless of the reality of the value of the issue.
Thank YOU for playing the conservative hack side of the argument to the letter. And as usual, it is short-sighted, close-minded, and has enough holes that a truck could be driven through it.
Both the Constitution and this country have evolved.
Yes, for the worse as evidenced by the 14 trillion dollar debt we have today because of liberal social engineering. That doesn't even count state debt so how much is enough? Why the continued confidence that the Federal Govt. can solve social problems?
Aren't most states required by law to balance their budgets?
No, you do not seem to understand that a strong central government is essential to power and influence, economically, politically, and internationally. When you give more power to the states, you present the weakness of "committee".
In your opinion. It is the "great society" that has helped in making the US the place that people would want to immigrate to. And the US has a tremendous amount of influence and respect because of how we conduct our society.
And it is conservative ideology that has harmed our respect in the world because of how we have used our "defense".
Doesn't matter how you cut it. When you only look at one side of an issue, as you do, you fail to understand the big picture.
the expression, a good offense is the best defense, has been abused. having the capability to protect ourselves is one thing, using it to bully other nations is another...
My blinders as you call them continue to point to the 4 million jobs lost since Obama took office and higher unemployment each month of 2010 vs. 2009 on a month to month basis plus 3 trillion to the debt.
which of the republican nominees last election could have done any different, or better?
Don't know that to be the case with all but do know that a lot of states including mine has that requirement plus it also has term limits and a part time legislature. Why doesn't the Federal Govt?
President Obama conceded Monday that he’ll probably have to let the Bush tax cuts for the rich be extended as part of a deal with Republicans, arguing that such an agreement was necessary to ensure that taxes for the middle class don’t increase on Jan. 1.
“We've got to make sure that we’re coming up with a solution, even if it’s not 100 percent of what I want or what the Republicans want,” he said during a speech about the economy at a North Carolina technical community college.
Really? The Central govt. can create an atmosphere for a strong economy but it is the private sector that creates that, not the govt. State and local govt's don't implement Federal Policy they live by Federal policy, private sector reacts.
Right, I am shortsighted
immigration only began after the Great Society was implemented.
Apparently you don't know what the Great Society is so check it out and get back to me. You can Google Great Society and learn a few things. The Great society had nothing to do with opportunity or freedom and only created the kind of society that liberals wanted. I know,because that is the policy that turned me away from the Democrat Party.
And which would those be? In case you missed it, Germany is doing quite well after changing leadership to a more pro conservative govt. as is France. neither supported us in Iraq but now neither have a lot of respect for Obama and the economy he is creating. Merkel has been lecturing Obama so when was the last time that happened?
Right, it is the only economic ideology that makes any sense and generates positive measurable results. Liberalism is all about feeling and generates debt.
No problem, I have had over 40 years practice at it actually generating results by implementing conservative principles. What is your experience in that area?
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