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CAMBRIDGE, Md. — The House Republican leadership is trying to sell their colleagues on a series of broad immigration principles, including a path to legal status for those here illegally. Speaker John Boehner’s leadership team introduced the principles at their annual policy retreat here. Top Republicans circulated a tightly held one-page memo titled “standards for immigration reform” toward the tail-end of a day that include strategy conversations about Obamacare, the economy and the national debt.
In the private meeting where the language was introduced, Boehner (R-Ohio) told Republicans that the standards are “as far as we are willing to go.”
“Nancy Pelosi said yesterday that for her caucus, it is a special path to citizenship or nothing,” Boehner said, according to a source in the room. “If Democrats insist on that, then we are not going to get anywhere this year.”
Boehner said the standards represent “a fair, principled way for us to solve this issue.”
House leaders sell immigration blueprint - Seung Min Kim and Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com
If Boehner gives in on the idea of citizenship for illegals, he needs to be thrown out on his ass. Pelosi is a stupid bitch, who is totally insane and can't even uphold immigration laws.
House leaders sell immigration blueprint - Seung Min Kim and Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com
If Boehner gives in on the idea of citizenship for illegals, he needs to be thrown out on his ass. Pelosi is a stupid bitch, who is totally insane and can't even uphold immigration laws.
Kinda like how allowing more people to have guns encourages more reckless gun use, right?The only thing granting amnesty does is encourage more illegal immigration.
What exactly is the problem with a path to citizenship?
What exactly is the problem with a path to citizenship?
We already have one.What exactly is the problem with a path to citizenship?
As long as those anti-American pro-illegal scumbags are in office I do not want any so-called immigration reform.Because immigration reform is nothing more than code for amnesty for illegals. Hopefully congress tells that traitor Pelosi and other anti-American pro-illegals in office to go **** themselves.Real immigration reform would be actually enforcing our laws against illegal immigration, real reform would be sticking scum who hire illegals into prison and subject them to asset seizure and forfeiture laws. Real immigration reform would be to sue the states and cities that are aiding illegals instead of suing states trying to crack down on illegal immigration. Real reform would be to make it impossible for anyone to profit from being here in the US illegally. The only thing granting amnesty does is encourage more illegal immigration.
There's already one, they can follow that. Don't look for sympathy for illegals here, because you won't find it. I know all about immigrants, I grew up with them. Difference being, they were legal.
There is already a path to citizenship. It should be followed.
Thom Paine
Geeeez, I must improve my response times :mrgreen:
What exactly is the problem with a path to citizenship?
What I would like to see is a bill drawn along Gary Johnson's idea of a few years ago. Give all illegals 3 years to register with the federal government. When they do give them a red alien registration card. From that point forward all, and I repeat all immigration laws must be enforced with vigor. This would make all those who registered legal residents. But there would be no way for a red card legal alien residence to obtain citizenship. That is unless they are willing to do so the legal way. By that I mean to return to their home country and legally enter the U.S. All illegals now residing in the U.S. do have a path to citizenship, they can exit and re-enter legally.
All legal alien residents should have the opportunity to become a citizen a very long time before any illegal. Those here legally did it the right way, those here illegally broke our laws. Hence they should not be rewarded with a path to citizenship, reward for breaking U.S. law by allowing them to live here legally is enough. To give them a path to citizenship would be like not only pardoning a bank robber for his crime, but also giving the pardoned bank robber a check from the government for a hundred thousand dollars.
I suppose the bottom line for me is I could support almost any immigration reform bill as long as it guarantees strict enforcement of our immigration laws once passed and there is no path to citizenship. Any bill has to have those two provisions or I will fight it. My wife is now a naturalized citizen, she came here legally, paid the fees, went through the background checks, obtained a visa, went through all the proper paper work and waiting period, then studied hard and became a naturalized citizen. She did it the right way, if any of these illegals want to become citizens, they too need to do it the right way. It is that simple for me.
I suspect neither of you are even remotely familiar with our immigration process. For an awful lot of people, there literally isn't a path to citizenship. And for those who it is? Lengthy (as in upwards of a decade), expensive, bureaucratic hell.
I suspect neither of you are even remotely familiar with our immigration process. For an awful lot of people, there literally isn't a path to citizenship. And for those who it is? Lengthy (as in upwards of a decade), expensive, bureaucratic hell.
So, would you agree that the immigration process was unnecessarily convoluted and lengthy? Keeping in mind that your wife was basically on the fast track because she was married to you.
I ask because I think the difficulty of our legal immigration process is the prime reason that people come in illegally. There just isn't enough legal carrot to balance out any fear of stick that might come with illegal immigration.[/B]
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No, you don't know the process. You cherry pick the **** you want to believe. And you want to give million of potential Democrat voters citizenship and the vote. The vote being your primary motive.
I think you're forgetting the other half of the equation: legal immigration.
If someone's goal is to come to the United States and make a better life for themselves, they have two options: legal or illegal. People will gravitate towards the easier or more attractive option. Right now, the legal method is a nightmare. It is probably the most convoluted, lengthy, expensive bureaucratic nonsense in our entire government, and that's saying a lot. And for a lot of people, it's not even actually an option. Many people simply don't have any path to become a citizen at all. Nope, sorry, you don't meet our criteria so you just can't come. Of course that person is going to jump the proverbial fence.
You guys seem to focus on making illegal immigration more unattractive,
but the equation will never balance in favor of legal immigration unless we make drastic changes to that process. Changes, I suspect, people like you will never accept.
I mean, listen to yourself. Anti-American. That's what you call people who want our borders to be more open.
Question: You ever been to the statue of liberty?.
So, would you agree that the immigration process was unnecessarily convoluted and lengthy? Keeping in mind that your wife was basically on the fast track because she was married to you.
I ask because I think the difficulty of our legal immigration process is the prime reason that people come in illegally. There just isn't enough legal carrot to balance out any fear of stick that might come with illegal immigration.
I don't buy the bank robber comparison.
Kinda like how allowing more people to have guns encourages more reckless gun use, right?
Just playing with you. However, I'm honestly surprised that you're only "slightly conservative" after reading that post. :lamo
The "Just playing with you" part was a hint. Calm down bro.We have at least 310 million firearms in the hands of citizens in this country. What is the percentage of people using guns recklessly?
Gun control offers no cure-all in America - NBC Politics
According to the Congressional Research Service, in 2009 there were an estimated 310 million firearms in the United States
Illegal immigration is a not a conservative vs liberal issue.There are people on both sides of the isle who oppose illegal immigration and people on both sides of the isle who support it.
What exactly is the problem with a path to citizenship?
What exactly is the problem with a path to citizenship?
House leaders sell immigration blueprint - Seung Min Kim and Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com
If Boehner gives in on the idea of citizenship for illegals, he needs to be thrown out on his ass. Pelosi is a stupid bitch, who is totally insane and can't even uphold immigration laws.
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