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House Democrats Release Emails Between Colin Powell and Hillary Clinton Showing Advic

Re: Powell email clears Hillary

jet57 said:
What it shows, is two things: Powell was obviously not doing anything unusual for the office, and he wasn't running for president either.
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The IG's report explains in its index what the rules were under all the recent Secretaries of State, and how they differed from their predecessors should you want to explore the evolution of state department policies on the issue.
 
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Obama on Clinton’s Emails

Apparently Obama wasn't completely aware of what it meant when he received an email from Hillary with her private email address. :roll:
 
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Gaugingcatenate said:
You seem clueless when its comes to reasonable and factual. I am hoping most of the electorate is not so simple, non caring and gullible. If we are we deserve a Hillary.
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No were not all gullible, anyone but Trump!! The man is dangerous, and should submit to a psychological exam, he is not well its obvious.
 
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jet57 said:
So, how many different feeds do you think a personal private server has?
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You aren't looking any better. Care to ask a sane question?
 
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jet57 said:
Traffic cops will often just give people a warning and let them drive away too; so what's your point?
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Now there's a good comparison, a traffic ticket to exposing classified information to our enemies. Liberals are just awesome!
 
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robertblake60 said:
A WHOLE server???? OMG. The power it must take to run those things.

Oh wait, a server is just a computer and those are pretty damn small nowadays.

Here's one for example:

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That's not a server. That's a client computing device of some sort. That's be hard pressed to have more than a few people accessing it at any one time, and where's all the hard disk storage?

Ppfffffftttt!

While Hillary email server's model hasn't been identified, given the time frame it was in use, it's likely something like this:

server.webp

Chassis

Form Factor: 5U
Height 443.5 mm (17.5 inch) with feet
434.5 mm (17.1 inch) without feet
Width:48.2cm (18.98”)
Depth:75.09cm (29.56”)
Max Weight:
T630 full system with 2.5” HDD:
Max 2.5"x16 (6 fans) 37.57Kg/82.75lb
Max 2.5"x32 (6 fans) 40.55Kg/89.32lb
T630 full system with 3.5” HDD:
Max 3.5"x18 (6 fans) 49.65 Kg/109.36 lb

PowerEdge T630 Powerful, Efficient, Versatile 2-socket Tower Server | Dell
 
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Cardinal said:
The emails weren't marked confidential, secret or top secret, and nobody in government actually believes she compromised national security. Stop being such a drama queen.
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You are wrong on all of that, and clearly you know nothing about it.
 
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yankintx said:
No were not all gullible, anyone but Trump!! The man is dangerous, and should submit to a psychological exam, he is not well its obvious.
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the irony in this statement is amazing.
 
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yankintx said:
No were not all gullible, anyone but Trump!! The man is dangerous, and should submit to a psychological exam, he is not well its obvious.
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Cough cough cough cough......neither is Hillary.......cough cough cough
 
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eohrnberger said:
That's not a server. That's a client computing device of some sort. That's be hard pressed to have more than a few people accessing it at any one time, and where's all the hard disk storage?

Ppfffffftttt!

While Hillary email server's model hasn't been identified, given the time frame it was in use, it's likely something like this:

View attachment 67207009

Chassis

Form Factor: 5U
Height 443.5 mm (17.5 inch) with feet
434.5 mm (17.1 inch) without feet
Width:48.2cm (18.98”)
Depth:75.09cm (29.56”)
Max Weight:
T630 full system with 2.5” HDD:
Max 2.5"x16 (6 fans) 37.57Kg/82.75lb
Max 2.5"x32 (6 fans) 40.55Kg/89.32lb
T630 full system with 3.5” HDD:
Max 3.5"x18 (6 fans) 49.65 Kg/109.36 lb

PowerEdge T630 Powerful, Efficient, Versatile 2-socket Tower Server | Dell
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Yeah, but how many "feeds" does it have?! :lamo
 
Re: Powell email clears Hillary

Cardinal said:
The emails weren't marked confidential, secret or top secret, and nobody in government actually believes she compromised national security. Stop being such a drama queen.
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110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time;

For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail

per the FBI so are you saying that you no more than the FBI?
if so please provide evidence.

They 100% absolutely where marked and at this point only dishonest people will not just admit it.
 
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I think at least one other person already pointed this out, but Colin Powell telling Clinton how to avoid FOIA does not absolve Clinton of anything. That's just an asinine argument, akin to a child saying "but he hit me first" as a defense.

Clinton was investigated and the FBI declined to recommend charges and the Justice Department followed suit. But none of that CLEARS Clinton of anything. Whether or not Clinton did something right or legal/illegal is based solely upon the facts, not what Colin Powell told Hillary.
jmotivator said:
You don't even know how stupid you look right now.
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...what was wrong with what he said? He was 100% right. A server is/can be nothing more than a personal PC. I have two of them in my home right now (1 for backups and testing website things and another for Plex).

I don't think Clinton's e-mail server was something that small, but I doubt it was anything like the next picture:
American said:
This is closer to it.

Server-Farm-630x407.jpg
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I agree that State Department may look closer to that, but Clinton's server most likely was NOTHING like that.
 
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American said:
Cough cough cough cough......neither is Hillary.......cough cough cough
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Something stuck in your throat? Or is it that lame sarcasm?

Anyone but Trump!!
 
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ludin said:
the irony in this statement is amazing.
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Yup

Swing state voter here

Anyone but Trump

Have a super day!
 
Re: Powell email clears Hillary

QUOTE=jet57;1066292467]Well, sure it does. It iterates that it's no big deal. Nothing came of these alleged "top secret emails", so it's just another nail in the coffin of the haters.[/QUOTE] As is normally the case; we have no idea what has or may come from the top secret information that Hillary, her staff and close business associates emailed in the clear.

Just because Powell is Blacker than 0 and didn't take care to protect classified material it has nothing to do with Hillary selling access to our classified material.
 
Re: Powell email clears Hillary

jmotivator said:
Yeah, but how many "feeds" does it have?! :lamo
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never really heard of email servers having feeds. that is more for newsgroups.
email servers are a many to many connections.

it does have an incoming and outgoing protocol that operate on a port but that is about it.
 
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American said:
You are wrong on all of that, and clearly you know nothing about it.
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Having to post this over and over again is getting frustrating.

Of the tens of thousands of emails the FBI reviewed, 81 email chains found on Clinton’s private servers included classified information, as determined by various U.S. intelligence agencies, according to a FBI report released Sept. 2. Just three email chains included some sort of classification marking: At least one paragraph preceded by the marking "(C)," indicating that those paragraphs were "confidential," the lowest level of classification. But none of the three had a header, footer or cover page further signaling that the emails contained confidential information.

Even though there was a "(C)" preceding the paragraphs, this information was not properly marked confidential because it did not include the header, FBI Director James Comey said in a July 7 hearing before Congress. It’s "reasonable," he said, that Clinton may not have realized these were classified.
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Hillary Clinton says none of her emails had classification headers | PolitiFact

The FBI also determined that about 2,000 of Clinton’s emails contained information that was retroactively classified, meaning the information is classified now but not when the emails were first sent — so no one mishandled these emails.
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PolitiFact Sheet: Hillary Clinton?s email controversy | PolitiFact
 
Re: Powell email clears Hillary

ludin said:
110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time;

For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail

per the FBI so are you saying that you no more than the FBI?
if so please provide evidence.

They 100% absolutely where marked and at this point only dishonest people will not just admit it.
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Please cite where they were marked. The source I have is that they were not.
 
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American said:
You are wrong on all of that, and clearly you know nothing about it.
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Nothing marked classified. How many times does this have to be explained to you?

The few that had "bore markings" (c) were not properly labeled, and it was determined to have been put there in error. Comey did not know that at the time of his testimony in the morning, but in later he was informed of that and had to revise.

As to the other 52 chains -- (which represent less than .001% of all the email she sent or rec'd) the best he had was she "should have known" the unmarked threads were classifiable. That's not good enough, and why he said no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.

Was she careless? Yes. Did she make a mistake? She said she did. She took responsibility. Nothing was criminal -- and furthermore, many experts from different agencies disagree on classification status. In-fighting goes on all the time with this.

She did not believe she had any classified information on the server and she showed no intent doing something that was wrong in any way.

Nor did the hundreds of other career diplomats who handled those chains believe so. You guys think everything is always so cut & dry. It's not.

When you think about the teeny tiny percent, as compared to the volume that was handled. Oh my god. She's..... Human.
 
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There were tens of thousands of pieces of classified information Hillary dealt in regularly as part of her job.
There are literally hundred of millions of pieces of classified information. Information the government deems to keep secret from you, some information classified, even if it's publicly known.

Still, what is at hand here is about .0001% of all her emails in her server. And even the three with "bore markings" regarding a freakin condolence call was improperly marked.

If we did a protological inspection of every cabinet member or legislature's communication, I'd be willing to bet darn near every one has had at least that amount, if not more. The gov't loves to keep secrets. Embrace it.
 
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Iteration #296

"For example, Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy asked Comey if Clinton was telling the truth when she said that she did not send or receive marked classified material. Comey said she wasn’t.


Gowdy, July 7: Secretary Clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her emails either sent or received. Was that true?


Comey: That’s not true. There were a small number of portion markings on I think three of the documents.


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But later in the hearing, Democratic Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman asked Comey if he knew that the State Department had said that the emails were marked classified in error. Comey replied, “No.”

Likewise, Rep. Matt Cartwright, also a Democrat, asked Comey if the emails were properly classified, and Comey said they were not. (Executive Order 13526 spells out how documents should be properly classified, including a header on the document clearly identifying the email as classified as “confidential,” “secret” or “top secret.”)

Cartwright asked if Clinton could have missed the improper markings. Comey said that that was possible."

Revisiting Clinton and Classified Information


KEY EXCHANGE WITH DIRECTOR COMEY AND REP. CARTWRIGHT:

MATT CARTWRIGHT: You were asked about markings on a few documents, I have the manual here, marking national classified security information. And I don’t think you were given a full chance to talk about those three documents with the little c’s on them. Were they properly documented? Were they properly marked according to the manual?

JAMES COMEY: No.

MATT CARTWRIGHT: According to the manual, and I ask unanimous consent to enter this into the record Mr. Chairman

CHAIRMAN: Without objection so ordered.

MATT CARTWRIGHT: According to the manual, if you're going to classify something, there has to be a header on the document? Right?

JAMES COMEY: Correct.

MATT CARTWRIGHT: Was there a header on the three documents that we've discussed today that had the little c in the text someplace?

JAMES COMEY: No. There were three e-mails, the c was in the body, in the text, but there was no header on the email or in the text.

MATT CARTWRIGHT: So if Secretary Clinton really were an expert about what's classified and what's not classified and we're following the manual, the absence of a header would tell her immediately that those three documents were not classified. Am I correct in that?

JAMES COMEY: That would be a reasonable inference."

https://www.c-span.org/video/?412315-1/fbi-director-james-comey-testifies-hillary-clinton-email-probe&start=6685
 
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