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House Democrat backs down from impeachment: 'I don't see the value of kicking him out of office'

Conservative said:
Why is it that the results of Trump don't support your claim of a train wreck? Your opinion is trumped by the actual results as the American people including you are better off today than 3 years ago. The problem is you know it but cannot admit it
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He can't keep staff. He has no idea on how to run the government. Continuity is what he calls the Deep State. The economy is fine, but there's more to good government than that.
 
Wry Catcher said:
Rep. Lawrence is mindful that Michigan voted for trump in the last general election, and may have used a radio station to solidify her constituents and to protect her job. One data point does not reflect upon the concern of Democrats in general that trump is unfit to be President of the United States.
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By your standards? Who do you say was or is fit to be President on the Democratic Ticket? Why is it that actual results don't resonate with you? Seems that you are doing exactly what Russia wants

KT McFarland: Division created by impeachment is '''Putin'''s dream''' | Fox News
 
cabse5 said:
That isn't true and is a dem talking point. You have the wrong election. The public testimony of the last week clearly pointed out Trump was interested in the machinations of the 2016 election. Biden (and son) were from the BO administration before the 2016 election.
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It's quite true. All evidence and testimony confirms that's what twump did, twump admitted to having done so, released a partial transcript that confirms it and his COS reconfirmed that's what happened, all of it in front of cameras.

You have absolutely no idea what you're babbling about.
 
rocket88 said:
He can't keep staff. He has no idea on how to run the government. Continuity is what he calls the Deep State. The economy is fine, but there's more to good government than that.
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The only career positions seem to be Congressional representatives. Staff positions are always temporary. Continuity is only an issue for Democrats who have been after Trump since his election. For some reason you cannot see how the left is manipulating you and how radicals are running today's Democratic Party

Good gov't? Good gov't is an oxymoron the left as a code word for massive gov't. Good Gov't from our Founders was LIMITED Federal gov't with power closer to the American people, state and local!!

KT McFarland: Division created by impeachment is '''Putin'''s dream''' | Fox News
 
rocket88 said:
That's just your usual "everybody has to do what Trump wants" propaganda. Funny how you didn't feel that way 10 years ago. I wonder what changed...
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What Trump wants? What promises did Trump make that he hasn't fulfilled or isn't trying to fulfill? Funny how you think you know how I felt 10 years ago. I saw an unqualified individual with no leadership, executive, or management experience nominated by the Democrats. That didn't matter as he was a "white board" being whatever you wanted him to be. Then 8 years later the results show his resume fulfilled, worst recovery in American history
 
cabse5 said:
Yes. Namely the Ukraine. But never fear, the Trump DOJ (and Giuliani) are on the case.
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Oh, you mean Fruity G, with his business partners being mob associates and who himself is now under federal investigation?

That guy?
 
Conservative said:
The only career positions seem to be Congressional representatives. Staff positions are always temporary. Continuity is only an issue for Democrats who have been after Trump since his election. For some reason you cannot see how the left is manipulating you and how radicals are running today's Democratic Party

Good gov't? Good gov't is an oxymoron the left as a code word for massive gov't. Good Gov't from our Founders was LIMITED Federal gov't with power closer to the American people, state and local!!

KT McFarland: Division created by impeachment is '''Putin'''s dream''' | Fox News
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Yeah, you're just spewing Trump propaganda again. What about results versus rhetoric? How many Chiefs of Staff has he had? I mean, that person is hand picked by the President and he's had 3 or 4 in 3 years.
 
rocket88 said:
Is he really though? Clinton wss corrupt but competent. She knew hi6w things worked kn Washington and certainly knew tgat healthcare was "hard." Trump is corrupt and a train wreck. Is a corrupt train wreck really better than corrupt competency?
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Yes, because corrupt competency is more dangerous.
 
rocket88 said:
Yeah, you're just spewing Trump propaganda again. What about results versus rhetoric? How many Chiefs of Staff has he had? I mean, that person is hand picked by the President and he's had 3 or 4 in 3 years.
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So tell us how his staff affects you and your family? Why does it matter how many he has had? Is his staff important to the American people? You seem to ignore results to focus on non important issues like is staff. Have you ever taken a civics class? Where is the President's staff recognized in the Constitution or civics? You apparently have no concept as to the role of the President which Trump is fulfilling well!!
 
Conservative said:
What Trump wants? What promises did Trump make that he hasn't fulfilled or isn't trying to fulfill? Funny how you think you know how I felt 10 years ago. I saw an unqualified individual with no leadership, executive, or management experience nominated by the Democrats. That didn't matter as he was a "white board" being whatever you wanted him to be. Then 8 years later the results show his resume fulfilled, worst recovery in American history
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You're thinking of Trump again. He's whatever you want. Small government? He's in favor. White power? If you like that, you see that. There's not much evidence of either, but there it is. If you want Trump to be in favor of it, you'll see it in him.
 
Conservative said:
So tell us how his staff affects you and your family? Why does it matter how many he has had? Is his staff important to the American people? You seem to ignore results to focus on non important issues like is staff. Have you ever taken a civics class? Where is the President's staff recognized in the Constitution or civics? You apparently have no concept as to the role of the President which Trump is fulfilling well!!
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So he should just fire them all? Where in the Constitution is the Secretary of State? Fire Pompeo i guess. We don't need him.
 
rocket88 said:
So he should just fire them all? Where in the Constitution is the Secretary of State? Fire Pompeo i guess. We don't need him.
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That is his choice, how has his staff changes affected you, your family, or the country? I assure you that you will grow out of this ignorance, I did grow out of my ignorance regarding the Democratic Party and their massive support for dependence and huge gov't
 
Conservative said:
That is his choice, how has his staff changes affected you, your family, or the country? I assure you that you will grow out of this ignorance, I did grow out of my ignorance regarding the Democratic Party and their massive support for dependence and huge gov't
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Someday maybe you'll outgrow the Republican party too. Let me know when you're mature enough for that.

Are you saying that the Secretary of State has no effect on foreign policy?
 
Grim17 said:
Is that why a wapo journalist said on national TV over the weekend that many democrats who supported the hearings are now worried it might cost them getting reelected?

Is that why 4 polls in the last week have all shown support for impeachment by independent voters has plummeted by an average of 10 points?

Is that the reason Gallup reports that Trump's public approval overall has gone up 2 points since the hearings, and his disapproval has gone down 3?

Is that the reason Vanity Fair just published an article saying that based on their own data, it suggests that democrats pushing for impeachment could end up alienating key independent voters?

Is that the reason a new poll from Emerson (listed as the second most accurate pollster of the 2016 election) shows support for Trump among black voters has nearly doubled from last months poll to 34%, and Hispanic support for him jumped 12 points to 38%?
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The latest poll reveals that 50% support impeachment and removal from office. It also reports that 52% believe that Democrats have used their power correctly.

Gallup disagrees with any poll that states that Trump's support has doubled. Even Emerson, the people who took the poll, warn that there is an over 8% margin of error. The idea that Trump's support among blacks went from 17.8% one month earlier to 34%, is suspect. But, keep counting your chickens.

I'd bet anything that Trump's support among blacks in the general election will fall. In fact, the African Americans that stayed home I predict will come out in droves to vote against him.
 
rocket88 said:
Someday maybe you'll outgrow the Republican party too. Let me know when you're mature enough for that.

Are you saying that the Secretary of State has no effect on foreign policy?
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The Secretary of State most certainly does have an effect on policy. Look no farther than Libya and Benghazi.
 
MTAtech said:
The latest poll reveals that 50% support impeachment and removal from office. It also reports that 52% believe that Democrats have used their power correctly.

Gallup disagrees with any poll that states that Trump's support has doubled. Even Emerson, the people who took the poll, warn that there is an over 8% margin of error. The idea that Trump's support among blacks went from 17.8% one month earlier to 34%, is suspect. But, keep counting your chickens.

I'd bet anything that Trump's support among blacks in the general election will fall. In fact, the African Americans that stayed home I predict will come out in droves to vote against him.
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Yep.

Cherry pick the material that matches your confirmation bias.
 
rocket88 said:
Someday maybe you'll outgrow the Republican party too. Let me know when you're mature enough for that.

Are you saying that the Secretary of State has no effect on foreign policy?
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Actually grew INTO the Republican Party as I finally realized unlike you that personal responsibility is mine not someone else's. Learned that I controlled my own destiny as was better able to decide where to spend my money vs giving it to a federal bureaucrat to spend after deducting Administrative costs.

You on the other hand support SPENDING IN THE NAME OF COMPASSION as it is great diversion from your own ability to support local programs to help the poor. Makes you feel good but makes the bureaucrats feel better in getting more of your money
 
haymarket said:
It is only in YOUR MIND that I get paid for this.

KA CHING!!!!! :lamo
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No one is more partisan, biased and full of hatred like a radical Democrat who has posted over 116,000 times in this forum. The Democratic Party of today loves having people like you making fools of themselves.
 
rocket88 said:
Someday maybe you'll outgrow the Republican party too. Let me know when you're mature enough for that.

Are you saying that the Secretary of State has no effect on foreign policy?
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On that note, what is the Republican Party? The Republican Party used to consider itself the party of family values; believed in free trade; believe that the government shouldn't pick winners and losers; believed in lowering the deficit and debt, etc.

The current Republican Party is the Party of Trump and by supporting a morality lacking man, who hires porn stars for sex, has abandoned any tether to family values.

The new party sees and hears no evil whatever he does. So he’s free to impose tariffs on self-evidently spurious grounds -- blocking imports from Canada in the name of national security? Really? Canada? Now blind partisan loyalty has taken down the guardrails of blind self-dealing. Put it this way: A party that has rallied behind Trump as he solicits or extorts political aid from foreign powers isn’t going to rebel over his abuse of tariff-setting authority, as evident by his tariff exemptions for Putin-linked oligarchs.

The same GOP who castigated Obama for deficits during the recession, when you're supposed to increase deficits, according to economists, have look the other way as he runs a trillion dollar deficit.
 
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