AngryOldGuy
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I was under the illusion that the ACA made insurance companies accept everyoneNo, one of the most important aspects of insurance. Buying insurance AFTER something has happened isn't insurance.
Oh stop with the sappy emotionalism for a minute and think about what you're asking, seriously.and being denied medical insurance simply for having a preexisting condition, something that is up to the insurance company to define, is what exactly? a sign of flawless freemarket principles?
and being denied medical insurance simply for having a preexisting condition, something that is up to the insurance company to define, is what exactly? a sign of flawless freemarket principles?
Oh stop with the sappy emotionalism for a minute and think about what you're asking, seriously.
Tell me where that argument fit when government-run health care made its first appearance on the political stage? It didn't exist. In fact, it won't exist for decades - that argument is just one of the latest excuses marched forth as "cause" for... for giving the federal government power over 1/6th of this nation's economy.
People are SO AFRAID of what might happen, they're ready to pee their pants at the very thought of not having insurance should they ever need it. Well, fine - I agree in principle that if we have the ability to curtail reasonable fears about "what might happen if" that we do so. Fair enough?
But answer me this - what makes you think the federal government is the proper entity to do that? What? Or, why MUST we accept the Democrat premise that government-run health care is the ONLY way to "fix" ____________?
because the free market has not been doing a great job of keeping health care affordable. people should not go bankrupt trying to afford healthcare or be denied life saving treatment because their current coverage cannot afford it.
If necessary. Why should I have to pay more because you smoke? Why should I have to pay a lot more because you smoked yourself to lung cancer? Why aren't you paying for my cable and internet and newspaper since I also have a right to be informed? Why was it necessary to muck up the whole system when those with pre-existing conditions could have been made eligible for existing government run plans without totally disrupting the market?
A bill which was passed by Congress which has not even gone into full effect yet.You mean a bill that was passed 2 Congresses ago.
just for the record, i don't smoke, and i will never smoke.
and what about the people who cannot qualify for the existing government programs but cannnot afford the high costs of private insurance.
Personal bankruptcy is not that big of a deal. You're making it sound as if it is the end of the world...
A bill which was passed by Congress which has not even gone into full effect yet.
The 90's don't seem to ring a bell do they?
Goodness, maybe we should have a shut down. Apparently Republicans forgot that they were blamed for the last one and that it was incredibly unpopular.
How can someone with no money afford decent food, housing, or anything.
Congress is trying to pass a bill to defund a law they passed, and if the law they passed isn't defunded by Congress, then Congress will decide to temporarily suspend the government they are responsible (while they themselves are still getting paid) for from work, and likely not pay the bills Congress accumulated.
Take partisanship out of it for just a second and take a moment to think how utterly ridiculous this situation is.
Again with the sappy emotionalism! Put a sock in it for a moment (please) and tell me now where THAT argument fit into the original push for government-run health care?because the free market has not been doing a great job of keeping health care affordable. people should not go bankrupt trying to afford healthcare or be denied life saving treatment because their current coverage cannot afford it.
Again with the sappy emotionalism! Put a sock in it for a moment (please) and tell me now where THAT argument fit into the original push for government-run health care?
But before you answer that question - please answer my first one: What makes you think the federal government is the proper entity to do this? What? Or, why MUST we accept the Democrat premise that government-run health care is the ONLY way to "fix" ____________? Insert 1) pre-existing conditions. 2) Affordablility. 3) Guarantee of life-saving treatment.
Seriously, you need to answer that question. Why do you accept the government's premise that it, and it alone is capable of quelling all your fears surrounding your health care, that you (and I) MUST accept this premise??
oh yes they will.people with Pr-existing conditions were being denied coverage, Under the affordable care act insurance company's can no longer deny someone with a pre-existing condition.
people with Pr-existing conditions were being denied coverage, Under the affordable care act insurance company's can no longer deny someone with a pre-existing condition.
oh yes they will.
What makes you think the federal government is the proper entity to do this? What?people with Pr-existing conditions were being denied coverage, Under the affordable care act insurance company's can no longer deny someone with a pre-existing condition.
Who do you think will end up paying for this?
phunny thing about you folks that have never run a businessnot if want to suffer the risks of breaking the law.
So you think the public is going to look at this like: We don't like this ineffective Congress because they are ineffective. Ineffective Congress could use a shutdown to make them even more ineffective. I would also like the American economy to loose billions of dollars in revenue.
Yeah, makes a lot of sense.
OK where's the ignore button?the insurance company's have to pay for the insurance.
the insurance company's have to pay for the insurance.
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