Hottest July on record in Sweden

[Threegoofs]

False authority fallacy. Science isn't an 'organization'. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.

You should study up on the Fischer-Tropsche process. That synthesizes oil from either CO and hydrogen or CO2 and hydrogen using high heat, high pressure, and an iron catalyst...conditions found naturally underground.

Just because one can synthesize Long chain hydrocarbons does not make oil a ‘renewable resource’.

That’s literally one of the stupidest things I have ever read on this forum.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Hey look who's back. I didn't read any further after your first lie - "oil is a renewable resource". Please provide a link from a reputable scientific organization.

There are studies that suggests the earth creates more than we use, but most only suggest that Abiogenic oil is real. I'm not going to look for the ones that quintify possible levels, but here is something worth reading: Synthesis of heavy hydrocarbons at the core-mantle boundary. I think this one is open access.

 

[Into the Night]

Just because one can synthesize Long chain hydrocarbons does not make oil a ‘renewable resource’.

Yes it does!:lamo

That’s literally one of the stupidest things I have ever read on this forum.

So now you are trying to say a chain of hydrocarbons that is somewhere between 7 and 9 molecules long is not oil???

 

[Threegoofs]

Yes it does!:lamo

So now you are trying to say a chain of hydrocarbons that is somewhere between 7 and 9 molecules long is not oil???

And now you’re defending the stupidest thing ever said on this forum.

Congratulations.

I guess since I can make water, that means I can make rain, and if I can make rain, I can make a thunderstorm.

 

[Media_Truth]

False authority fallacy. Science isn't an 'organization'. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.

You should study up on the Fischer-Tropsche process. That synthesizes oil from either CO and hydrogen or CO2 and hydrogen using high heat, high pressure, and an iron catalyst...conditions found naturally underground.

You must have missed this. Please provide a link from a respected scientific organization.

 

[Media_Truth]

There are studies that suggests the earth creates more than we use, but most only suggest that Abiogenic oil is real. I'm not going to look for the ones that quintify possible levels, but here is something worth reading: Synthesis of heavy hydrocarbons at the core-mantle boundary. I think this one is open access.

I looked at the link. In no way, does it state that crude oil is a renewable resource. Here's a pretty good discussion.

https://greentumble.com/why-is-oil-a-nonrenewable-resource/

it is estimated that it would take the natural process of decomposition, 422 years to replace what we currently consume in a year in fossil fuels

So despite the fact that there is some activity underground, for all practical purposes, oil is non-renewable. That is, unless you want to drive your car only once every 422 days.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

1) Fossils don't burn.Shell sells oil products. Oil is a renewable resource. So is natural gas.
2) You haven't defined either 'global warming' or 'climate change'. These are still meaningless buzzwords.
3) It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. Shell can't measure it either. You are denying mathematics again.
4) Neither carbon nor carbon dioxide is capable of warming the Earth. No gas or vapor is capable of warming the Earth.
5) Science isn't a 'study' or a 'research'. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. It is not possible to have a theory of any kind about 'global warming' or 'climate change' until you can define them without using circular definitions.

You can for example visit NASA's homepage if you want to learn more about climate change.

"The current warming trend is of particular significance because most of it is extremely likely (greater than 95 percent probability) to be the result of human activity since the mid-20th century and proceeding at a rate that is unprecedented over decades to millennia.1

Earth-orbiting satellites and other technological advances have enabled scientists to see the big picture, collecting many different types of information about our planet and its climate on a global scale. This body of data, collected over many years, reveals the signals of a changing climate.

The heat-trapping nature of carbon dioxide and other gases was demonstrated in the mid-19th century.2 Their ability to affect the transfer of infrared energy through the atmosphere is the scientific basis of many instruments flown by NASA. There is no question that increased levels of greenhouse gases must cause the Earth to warm in response."

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Tens of thousands of people took part in marches and other events across the US on Saturday demanding action on climate change and a swift transition to renewable energy. While you also had rallies in many other countries around the world.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/sep/08/rise-for-climate-protests-san-francisco-new-york

 

[Jack Hays]

Tens of thousands of people took part in marches and other events across the US on Saturday demanding action on climate change and a swift transition to renewable energy. While you also had rallies in many other countries around the world.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/sep/08/rise-for-climate-protests-san-francisco-new-york

Unnoticed.

 

[Into the Night]

And now you’re defending the stupidest thing ever said on this forum.

Congratulations.

I guess since I can make water, that means I can make rain, and if I can make rain, I can make a thunderstorm.

Rain doesn't make water.

 

[Into the Night]

You must have missed this. Please provide a link from a respected scientific organization.

False authority fallacy. Science isn't an 'organization'. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.

You should study up on the Fischer-Tropsche process. That synthesizes oil from either CO and hydrogen or CO2 and hydrogen using high heat, high pressure, and an iron catalyst...conditions found naturally underground.

 

[Into the Night]

I looked at the link. In no way, does it state that crude oil is a renewable resource. Here's a pretty good discussion.

https://greentumble.com/why-is-oil-a-nonrenewable-resource/

it is estimated that it would take the natural process of decomposition, 422 years to replace what we currently consume in a year in fossil fuels

So despite the fact that there is some activity underground, for all practical purposes, oil is non-renewable. That is, unless you want to drive your car only once every 422 days.

Argument from randU. Also, we know that oil wells refill in a much shorter time. We also have more oil than ever available.

 

[Into the Night]

You can for example visit NASA's homepage if you want to learn more about climate change.

They don't define 'climate change' or 'global warming'. Define 'global warming' or 'climate change' without using circular definitions. These are still meaningless buzzwords.

"The current warming trend is of particular significance because most of it is extremely likely (greater than 95 percent probability) to be the result of human activity since the mid-20th century and proceeding at a rate that is unprecedented over decades to millennia.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. It is not possible to measure the global atmosphere CO2 content. It is not possible to measure the sources of atmospheric CO2. This statement is nothing more than scripture from the Church of Global Warming.

Earth-orbiting satellites and other technological advances have enabled scientists to see the big picture, collecting many different types of information about our planet and its climate on a global scale. This body of data, collected over many years, reveals the signals of a changing climate.

Vague claim of magick capabilities of satellites. Meaningless.

The heat-trapping nature of carbon dioxide and other gases was demonstrated in the mid-19th century.

No, it wasn't. This is again misquoting Arrhenius. Heat cannot be trapped. Thermal energy cannot be trapped. There is always heat. All Arrhenius showed is that carbon dioxide absorbs certain frequencies of infrared light. Absorption of surface infrared by CO2 does not warm the Earth. It is just another way the surface cools itself by heating the atmosphere. ALL of it radiates into space.

You cannot reduce radiance and increase the temperature at the same time. Arrhenius does not override the Stefan-Boltzmann law.

Their ability to affect the transfer of infrared energy through the atmosphere is the scientific basis of many instruments flown by NASA.

Energy is more than a certain frequency of infrared light. Did you know that Earth emits a wide range of infrared light? So does CO2!

There is no question that increased levels of greenhouse gases must cause the Earth to warm in response."

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More scripture from the Church of Global Warming. No definition of 'global warming' or 'climate change'.

Define 'global warming' or 'climate change' without using circular definitions. These are still meaningless buzzwords.

 

[Into the Night]

Tens of thousands of people took part in marches and other events across the US on Saturday demanding action on climate change and a swift transition to renewable energy. While you also had rallies in many other countries around the world.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/sep/08/rise-for-climate-protests-san-francisco-new-york

Meh. Big hairy deal.

 

[Jack Hays]

Tens of thousands of people took part in marches and other events across the US on Saturday demanding action on climate change and a swift transition to renewable energy. While you also had rallies in many other countries around the world.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/sep/08/rise-for-climate-protests-san-francisco-new-york

Well, no.

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[Media_Truth]

Well, no.

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Get a life. Is that all you have to offer?

 

[Media_Truth]

Argument from randU. Also, we know that oil wells refill in a much shorter time. We also have more oil than ever available.

Keep telling yourself that. And while you're at it you can visit Alice in Wonderland.

 

[Jack Hays]

Get a life. Is that all you have to offer?

Ironic from "Media Truth."

 

[Lord of Planar]

Well, no.

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How about we do this. We take a vote. We make it a recorded vote. If it passes, Everybody who votes for more green energy, and no fossil fuels can have smart meters installed on their residents, and when the wind and sun don't produce enough power, their electricity gets cut first.

Sound like a plan?

 

[Surface Detail]

How about we do this. We take a vote. We make it a recorded vote. If it passes, Everybody who votes for more green energy, and no fossil fuels can have smart meters installed on their residents, and when the wind and sun don't produce enough power, their electricity gets cut first.

Sound like a plan?

No problem with that. So long as the fossil fuel users have the resulting CO2 emissions piped into their own houses.

 

[Lord of Planar]

No problem with that. So long as the fossil fuel users have the resulting CO2 emissions piped into their own houses.

It would still end up in the atmosphere.

 

[Media_Truth]

How about we do this. We take a vote. We make it a recorded vote. If it passes, Everybody who votes for more green energy, and no fossil fuels can have smart meters installed on their residents, and when the wind and sun don't produce enough power, their electricity gets cut first.

Sound like a plan?

Perhaps you should post this in a Poll, instead of taking the gentleman's thread off-topic.

 

[flogger]

It is the warmest July on record in Sweden. That you can have one or two days with over 30 degrees Celsius. While now you have week after week with extreme temperature. That 30 Celsius/86ºF degrees doesn’t seem much for people in other countries, but the Swedish society isn’t adapted to that kind of warm weather. For example, that most houses lack air conditions.

https://www.thelocal.se/20180723/sweden-heatwave-hottest-july-in-at-least-260-years

Also, the rainfall during July so far is extremely low in many areas compared to a normal summer.

https://translate.google.se/transla...logi/kartor/showImg.php?par=nbdAvv&edit-text=

While we also had extreme high temperatures during May.

https://www.thelocal.se/20180531/swedes-endure-hottest-may-on-record

That this have led to devasted wild fires that continue to rage on. While it is a great threat for new forest fires. That the risk is so great that in some counties you are not even allowed to grill in your own garden.

https://www.thelocal.se/20180724/sweden-wildfires-25000-hectares-of-forest-still-burning

The dry weather has also been devasting for many farmers.

Sweden seeks European Commission’s help for farmers facing historic drought – Eye on the Arctic

While at the same time you have extreme hot weather across the world. That global temperature for June 2018 was the third warmest on record.

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2766/june-2018-ties-for-third-warmest-june-on-record/

While May was the fourth warmest, and the period March-April-May was the third warmest Northern Hemisphere spring in 138 years of modern record-keeping.

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2750/may-2018-was-fourth-warmest-may-on-record/

So what ? There are some places that recorded their coldest temps on record in July too. Cherry picking is great isn't it ? Here are mine

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/na...tumble-across-queensland-20180714-p4zrgy.html

https://kval.com/news/local/brrr-eugene-sees-coldest-july-temp-on-record-ahead-of-scorcher-of-a-4th

https://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.a...shivers-through-coldest-july-day-in-22-years/

And the coldest temperature ever recorded anywhere on earth was set just recently in Antarctica

http://fortune.com/2018/06/25/lowest-temperature-earth/

Strange how the global warming junkies always forget to mention those :wink:

 

[Surface Detail]

So what ? There are some places that recorded their coldest temps on record in July too. Cherry picking is great isn't it ? Here are mine

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/na...tumble-across-queensland-20180714-p4zrgy.html

https://kval.com/news/local/brrr-eugene-sees-coldest-july-temp-on-record-ahead-of-scorcher-of-a-4th

https://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.a...shivers-through-coldest-july-day-in-22-years/

And the coldest temperature ever recorded anywhere on earth was set just recently in Antarctica

Coldest Place on Earth Is Even Colder Than Suspected | Fortune

Strange how the global warming junkies always forget to mention those :wink:

AGW deniers bending the truth, as usual :wink:

Local records for individual days that go back just a few years are hardly in the same class as all-time records for long periods of time that cover large areas. The fact that these were the best you could find is telling in itself!

And, no, the coldest temperature ever recorded anywhere on earth was not set just recently in Antarctica. In reality, researchers re-analysed data going back for many years in order to determine the coldest that it could possibly get:

"The record low, measured on the East Antarctic Plateau, which includes the South Pole, didn’t identify a particular date, but rather relied on analyzing data captured by satellites between 2004 and 2016 to show that this low temperature occurs whenever the conditions are right."

 

[flogger]

AGW deniers bending the truth, as usual :wink:

Local records for individual days that go back just a few years are hardly in the same class as all-time records for long periods of time that cover large areas. The fact that these were the best you could find is telling in itself!

And, no, the coldest temperature ever recorded anywhere on earth was not set just recently in Antarctica. In reality, researchers re-analysed data going back for many years in order to determine the coldest that it could possibly get:

"The record low, measured on the East Antarctic Plateau, which includes the South Pole, didn’t identify a particular date, but rather relied on analyzing data captured by satellites between 2004 and 2016 to show that this low temperature occurs whenever the conditions are right."

As soon as you used the word 'denier' in your response I knew you are already too far gone to waste any further keystrokes. Have a nice day :bolt