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First off, the term is spigot. Secondly, aren't the states responsible for paying for their own services? If the feds don't have the money, they can't/shouldn't spend it. Your position here seems in conflict with most of your other positions.
Because they wouldn't voluntarily, or willingly, participate.
You don't give them a choice. :shrug:
You don't give them a choice. :shrug:
I would have no problem with this if it was tied to getting public assistance. In other words "we will give you a job if you can't get one, it might be ****ty, but its a job and you can eat"
That's exactly what I am saying except make it a supervised and communal. Tell them, you work on public works projects, you get three squares a day, R&R time, health care, shelter, job training and somewhat of a normal life. AND, we will put x amount aside for you so that when you leave the camp you will have something to start out right with.
Don't commit to this program and you can go in the general population of the closest prison for vagrancy, squatting, loitering, etc.
Thanks for the grammar correction, I am glad you got the idea anyway. And yes the states are indeed responsible, however in many cases there are grants for some services. When these things get reduced, it forces many, more severe cuts at the state level.
My position is neither liberal, nor conservative when it concerns Mental Health. See, a few years ago, I had to deal with Mental health issues of two of my immediate family members, and got a real education on how screwed up that system is.
That's exactly what I am saying except make it a supervised and communal. Tell them, you work on public works projects, you get three squares a day, R&R time, health care, shelter, job training and somewhat of a normal life. AND, we will put x amount aside for you so that when you leave the camp you will have something to start out right with.
Don't commit to this program and you can go in the general population of the closest prison for vagrancy, squatting, loitering, etc.
"Will work for food" -- all lies.I dont understand why they dont create work camps for the chronically homeless and give them something to do that grants a sense of purpose, financial stability to pay for the camp, and removal from the streets and, consequently, the opportunity for crime.
Question. What chance do you give this of succeeding?But if in any situation, there aren't enough people doing something or the problem requires a general change on the actions of a large group of people (like parents), the reaction from your camp is "oh well"
Do you think we'll "end homelessness among some of society's most vulnerable groups within the next decade"?
I prefer to brainstorm possible solutions than derail the thread with assumptions that these are Very Bad, Lazy People.
"Will work for food" -- all lies.
"Taylor makes sensible post" -- all lies.
See what I did there?
About time you showed up.
I left myself logged in while I went and had the most awesomest Thai food ever.
As to the other things you said, I am with you 100% on the idea of institutionalizing people again...under humane conditions where people can be directed toward something useful.
I think we could end short-term homelessness to a large degree by providing temporary housing/assistance programs that help people get back on their feet. And, the vast majority of the short-term homeless are made up of the working poor who live paycheck to paycheck and whose lives can be seriously disrupted pretty easily. However, we will probably never end longterm homelessness unless we start institutionalizing the seriously mentally ill again.
That makes me want to make green curry tonight.
That makes me want to make green curry tonight.
Uhhh, there's nothing in that document that bars prison sentences for all the crimes that come along with homelessness.
Thanks for playing though.
But being homeless is not a crime. Thanks for playing.
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