Hiring based on MEI instead of DEI? Is it an outrage?

[Paradoxical]

One of the reasons that America has declined globally and internally is this nonsense called DEI and scoring systems for corporations that are just a replay on a more massive scale than the race baiters Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton ever dreamed of. So much so that any company that doesn't have the proper ratios of color and gender may lose revenue because of a bad SEI score. Even Fox is afraid and is on a drive to comply with DEI so they get good scores. Here is one CEO of an AI company that says NO to this outrage that has dumbed down America.

Scale AI CEO explains why his company will hire for MEI, not DEI: 'Merit, excellence and intelligence'

Scale AI CEO Alexandr Wang won praise from top tech leaders for his company's MEI hiring policy, which prioritizes merit, excellence and intelligence in job candidates.

www.foxbusiness.com

How many left wingers here think this is wrong and racist and why?

 

[dmpi]

Of course the Asian guy scored at the bottom of DEI, so why not MEI where he'll score on top?

 

[US&THEM]

One of the reasons that America has declined globally and internally is this nonsense called DEI and scoring systems for corporations that are just a replay on a more massive scale than the race baiters Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton ever dreamed of. So much so that any company that doesn't have the proper ratios of color and gender may lose revenue because of a bad SEI score. Even Fox is afraid and is on a drive to comply with DEI so they get good scores. Here is one CEO of an AI company that says NO to this outrage that has dumbed down America.

Scale AI CEO explains why his company will hire for MEI, not DEI: 'Merit, excellence and intelligence'

Scale AI CEO Alexandr Wang won praise from top tech leaders for his company's MEI hiring policy, which prioritizes merit, excellence and intelligence in job candidates.

www.foxbusiness.com

How many left wingers here think this is wrong and racist and why?

How has the US declined globally?

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

I get my ideas from Fox Business. Part of the Fox News network.

 

[beefheart]

One of the reasons that America has declined globally and internally is this nonsense called DEI and scoring systems for corporations that are just a replay on a more massive scale than the race baiters Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton ever dreamed of. So much so that any company that doesn't have the proper ratios of color and gender may lose revenue because of a bad SEI score. Even Fox is afraid and is on a drive to comply with DEI so they get good scores. Here is one CEO of an AI company that says NO to this outrage that has dumbed down America.

Scale AI CEO explains why his company will hire for MEI, not DEI: 'Merit, excellence and intelligence'

Scale AI CEO Alexandr Wang won praise from top tech leaders for his company's MEI hiring policy, which prioritizes merit, excellence and intelligence in job candidates.

www.foxbusiness.com

How many left wingers here think this is wrong and racist and why?

Angry right wing white man garbage.

 

[Ginger Ale]

One of the reasons that America has declined globally and internally is this nonsense called DEI and scoring systems for corporations that are just a replay on a more massive scale than the race baiters Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton ever dreamed of. So much so that any company that doesn't have the proper ratios of color and gender may lose revenue because of a bad SEI score. Even Fox is afraid and is on a drive to comply with DEI so they get good scores. Here is one CEO of an AI company that says NO to this outrage that has dumbed down America.

Scale AI CEO explains why his company will hire for MEI, not DEI: 'Merit, excellence and intelligence'

Scale AI CEO Alexandr Wang won praise from top tech leaders for his company's MEI hiring policy, which prioritizes merit, excellence and intelligence in job candidates.

www.foxbusiness.com

How many left wingers here think this is wrong and racist and why?

So you mean FOX could get even more white? MAGA will LOVE IT even more!! Go for it!! It will be great for the party!!

 

[Paradoxical]

So you mean FOX could get even more white? MAGA will LOVE IT even more!! Go for it!! It will be great for the party!!

I watch Fox occasionally. They have black people on their station. Do you want some DEI score?

Oh, WAIT! You want them to be like the Biden DEI office.

 

[Gatsby]

One of the reasons that America has declined globally and internally is this nonsense called DEI and scoring systems for corporations that are just a replay on a more massive scale than the race baiters Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton ever dreamed of. So much so that any company that doesn't have the proper ratios of color and gender may lose revenue because of a bad SEI score. Even Fox is afraid and is on a drive to comply with DEI so they get good scores. Here is one CEO of an AI company that says NO to this outrage that has dumbed down America.

Scale AI CEO explains why his company will hire for MEI, not DEI: 'Merit, excellence and intelligence'

Scale AI CEO Alexandr Wang won praise from top tech leaders for his company's MEI hiring policy, which prioritizes merit, excellence and intelligence in job candidates.

www.foxbusiness.com

How many left wingers here think this is wrong and racist and why?

I agree that meritocracy is good. I disagree with your reflexive anti-Americanism and find it weird that you threw that in there. Did you really hijack your own thread in the first ten words?

 

[Mithrae]

One of the reasons that America has declined globally and internally is this nonsense called DEI and scoring systems for corporations that are just a replay on a more massive scale than the race baiters Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton ever dreamed of. So much so that any company that doesn't have the proper ratios of color and gender may lose revenue because of a bad SEI score. Even Fox is afraid and is on a drive to comply with DEI so they get good scores.

Sounds like an improvement on capitalism in action, consumers having access to more information so they can decide which businesses to support. Offhand, seems like opposition to this could come from two plausible sources, A) not wanting consumers to have access to information about the businesses they're giving money to, or B) recognizing an inherent weakness of a consumer-driven economy (which may or may not be balanced by its strengths) in that consumers often don't make the best decisions. I'd agree with B myself, and I'd even agree that there are probably some cases in which 'DEI' initiatives are silly, cynical or taken too far... though even in the worst case scenarios, in terms of unwise consumer influences this would rank way behind those that are undermining the earth- and eco-systems on which our global civilization depends such as climate change, mass extinction and so on.

If your objection is based on A, preferring a more opaque economic system so that consumers can't make such informed decisions, there's not much more to be said - pretty standard quasi-authoritarian right-wing fare.

Here is one CEO of an AI company that says NO to this outrage that has dumbed down America.

Scale AI CEO explains why his company will hire for MEI, not DEI: 'Merit, excellence and intelligence'

Scale AI CEO Alexandr Wang won praise from top tech leaders for his company's MEI hiring policy, which prioritizes merit, excellence and intelligence in job candidates.

www.foxbusiness.com

How many left wingers here think this is wrong and racist and why?

The racial biases in recruitment and promotions among big companies (with tech companies likely among the worst offenders) have been repeatedly proven in a variety of ways. Most simply, sending out identical resumes with obviously 'black' names versus obviously 'white' names (or feminine names versus masculine names) has pretty consistently resulted progression to a callback or interview stage for white/masculine candidates more often than black/feminine candidates. It's a nice idea to pretend that just 'ignoring' race and sex would result in fairness, but the pretty overwhelming evidence indicates that it simply results in ignoring the organizations' and individuals' own biases. That is obviously the opposite of merit-based recruitment and promotions in corporate America, as you would know if you were interested in truth and honesty.

Fix education funding and biases, fix policing biases, fix infrastructure and development biases... then a couple of decades after that supposed 'MEI' will be an approach with little if any drawback. For now, consumers helping businesses be mindful of their biases seems like mostly a good thing, on balance.

 

[Ginger Ale]

I watch Fox occasionally. They have black people on their station. Do you want some DEI score?

Oh, WAIT! You want them to be like the Biden DEI office.

Oh no, you misunderstand, I want MAGAs to hire who they want, just like they elect who they want, which why the parties so ****ing white, white and more white.
I want people to see just how afraid of color MAGA actually is, so go for it! Show your personal preference!

 

[redbeer]

One of the reasons that America has declined globally and internally is this nonsense called DEI and scoring systems for corporations that are just a replay on a more massive scale than the race baiters Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton ever dreamed of. So much so that any company that doesn't have the proper ratios of color and gender may lose revenue because of a bad SEI score. Even Fox is afraid and is on a drive to comply with DEI so they get good scores. Here is one CEO of an AI company that says NO to this outrage that has dumbed down America.

Scale AI CEO explains why his company will hire for MEI, not DEI: 'Merit, excellence and intelligence'

Scale AI CEO Alexandr Wang won praise from top tech leaders for his company's MEI hiring policy, which prioritizes merit, excellence and intelligence in job candidates.

www.foxbusiness.com

How many left wingers here think this is wrong and racist and why?

The color of someone's skin or ethnicity should not matter. Running a business, especially small or starting up, they must, but the powers that be want to screw over the little man. It's using racism to make money and the big money wins hands down.....that's all this is.

 

[Deuce]

One of the reasons that America has declined globally and internally is this nonsense called DEI and scoring systems for corporations that are just a replay on a more massive scale than the race baiters Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton ever dreamed of. So much so that any company that doesn't have the proper ratios of color and gender may lose revenue because of a bad SEI score. Even Fox is afraid and is on a drive to comply with DEI so they get good scores. Here is one CEO of an AI company that says NO to this outrage that has dumbed down America.

Scale AI CEO explains why his company will hire for MEI, not DEI: 'Merit, excellence and intelligence'

Scale AI CEO Alexandr Wang won praise from top tech leaders for his company's MEI hiring policy, which prioritizes merit, excellence and intelligence in job candidates.

www.foxbusiness.com

How many left wingers here think this is wrong and racist and why?

So, it's important to understand that racial bias in hiring practices is rarely conscious. Hardly anyone thinks to themselves "I am scoring this person lower because they are black." That's not how it works. Rather, there's just a general statistical bias of ranking the merit of black candidates lower even when they are equally qualified.

Merit isn't some objective thing you can perfectly measure. It's subjective, and our brains are prone to all sorts of biases. Including bias based on race. This CEO is arrogant in that he thinks he's the only one hiring based on merit. Everyone thinks they are hiring based on merit. (nepotism hires notwithstanding)

DEI programs don't rank people of color higher than white people with the same qualifications. It's an attempt to offset the fact that people of color are being ranked lower than they should be.
Take this study as an example

Are Emily and Greg More Employable Than Lakisha and Jamal? A Field Experiment on Labor Market Discrimination - American Economic Association

Are Emily and Greg More Employable Than Lakisha and Jamal? A Field Experiment on Labor Market Discrimination by Marianne Bertrand and Sendhil Mullainathan. Published in volume 94, issue 4, pages 991-1013 of American Economic Review, September 2004, Abstract: We study race in the labor market by...

www.aeaweb.org

Researchers sent fake resumes to employers, with equivalent qualifications. The changes made were the candidate having white-sounding names vs black-sounding names. Emily and Greg are substantially more likely to get a call for an interview than Jamal and Lakisha. 50% more likely! And this is before meeting the candidate. (because the candidate doesn't exist) The only basis on which to judge the candidates at that point is the resume, and the resumes are equivalent. Personally, I like this study because it eliminates all the human factors variables that arise once you go to the interview stage.

So, it is clear that merit doesn't get measured as accurately as we'd like to think.

 

[Deuce]

The color of someone's skin or ethnicity should not matter. Running a business, especially small or starting up, they must, but the powers that be want to screw over the little man. It's using racism to make money and the big money wins hands down.....that's all this is.

It shouldn't, but to this day there are substantial differences in hiring outcomes. People of color face an uphill battle, even with these DEI programs you are all terrified of.

Maybe what you are really afraid of is whether you can compete on a playing field that is getting closer to level?

 

[redbeer]

It shouldn't, but to this day there are substantial differences in hiring outcomes. People of color face an uphill battle, even with these DEI programs you are all terrified of.

Maybe what you are really afraid of is whether you can compete on a playing field that is getting closer to level?

Lol, what the hell are you talking about? Forcing a business owner to hire those they really don't is and should be criminal. It's not a matter of race or the usual liberal insanity. The left just can't get rid of their racist past and must keep it alive to garner votes, fearmonger and use minority races to usher in lunatic ideology.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

One of the reasons that America has declined globally and internally is this nonsense called DEI …

Here we agree. I believe merit and character are the ideal and we should be blind to everything else.

 

[Deuce]

Lol, what the hell are you talking about? Forcing a business owner to hire

Is that what you think is happening? lol

those they really don't is and should be criminal. It's not a matter of race or the usual liberal insanity. The left just can't get rid of their racist past and must keep it alive to garner votes, fearmonger and use minority races to usher in lunatic ideology.

See the study I posted.

 

[Ginger Ale]

There are many studies showing diversity and inclusion in the workforce makes more sense, makes more money, creates happiness, less discrimination claims, and better performance, and they are more innovative. They are also a draw to more people and have a better choice of employees.

Hopefully people know this now and will hire accordingly. We will see, after eliminating these programs( that actually helped those companies who would not normally hire diversely,) we might see more all white companies that fail, then that's on them. There are enough who will hire diversely now on the left to fill the gap, and since we are seeing a drop in available employees with the rise of the Silver Tsunami and declining birth rate, it's now just a plus to have more available employees.


If it's only liberal businesses that are thriving in the future, so be it. I could care less if Republicans crash and burn their anti woke white train. Good luck!
We can use De Santis's Floridah as a testing ground. How are their businesses going to be doing in 10 years from now on that anti woke justice ride. It will be interesting to say the least.

 

[Paradoxical]

Sounds like an improvement on capitalism in action, consumers having access to more information so they can decide which businesses to support. Offhand, seems like opposition to this could come from two plausible sources, A) not wanting consumers to have access to information about the businesses they're giving money to, or B) recognizing an inherent weakness of a consumer-driven economy (which may or may not be balanced by its strengths) in that consumers often don't make the best decisions. I'd agree with B myself, and I'd even agree that there are probably some cases in which 'DEI' initiatives are silly, cynical or taken too far... though even in the worst case scenarios, in terms of unwise consumer influences this would rank way behind those that are undermining the earth- and eco-systems on which our global civilization depends such as climate change, mass extinction and so on.

If your objection is based on A, preferring a more opaque economic system so that consumers can't make such informed decisions, there's not much more to be said - pretty standard quasi-authoritarian right-wing fare.


The racial biases in recruitment and promotions among big companies (with tech companies likely among the worst offenders) have been repeatedly proven in a variety of ways. Most simply, sending out identical resumes with obviously 'black' names versus obviously 'white' names (or feminine names versus masculine names) has pretty consistently resulted progression to a callback or interview stage for white/masculine candidates more often than black/feminine candidates. It's a nice idea to pretend that just 'ignoring' race and sex would result in fairness, but the pretty overwhelming evidence indicates that it simply results in ignoring the organizations' and individuals' own biases. That is obviously the opposite of merit-based recruitment and promotions in corporate America, as you would know if you were interested in truth and honesty.

Fix education funding and biases, fix policing biases, fix infrastructure and development biases... then a couple of decades after that supposed 'MEI' will be an approach with little if any drawback. For now, consumers helping businesses be mindful of their biases seems like mostly a good thing, on balance.

Your post is just the same old crap that a company will not hire a more qualified black person before a lesser qualified white person and is silly because that says the CEO wants a less qualified person which would make his company less money. Does that make a whit of sense?

 

[Paradoxical]

Oh no, you misunderstand, I want MAGAs to hire who they want, just like they elect who they want, which why the parties so ****ing white, white and more white.
I want people to see just how afraid of color MAGA actually is, so go for it! Show your personal preference!

Awww. White envy much?

 

[Paradoxical]

The color of someone's skin or ethnicity should not matter. Running a business, especially small or starting up, they must, but the powers that be want to screw over the little man. It's using racism to make money and the big money wins hands down.....that's all this is.

Evidence? Oh wait! You have none.

 

[Ginger Ale]

Awww. White envy much?

Well you certainly say the quiet part out loud don't ya.

No, I'm not jealous of white people. Is that really what you think of people who aren't white? They envy whites? Wish they were white? Do you think women wish they were men as well? I bet you do!

I'm not sure other Conservatives want the kind of representing you're doing but, you know, MAGA!

Everyone wishes there were white males because.........? I can't wait to hear why that is? Please tell!

 

[Risky Thicket]

One of the reasons that America has declined globally and internally is this nonsense called DEI and scoring systems for corporations that are just a replay on a more massive scale than the race baiters Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton ever dreamed of. So much so that any company that doesn't have the proper ratios of color and gender may lose revenue because of a bad SEI score. Even Fox is afraid and is on a drive to comply with DEI so they get good scores. Here is one CEO of an AI company that says NO to this outrage that has dumbed down America.

Scale AI CEO explains why his company will hire for MEI, not DEI: 'Merit, excellence and intelligence'

Scale AI CEO Alexandr Wang won praise from top tech leaders for his company's MEI hiring policy, which prioritizes merit, excellence and intelligence in job candidates.

www.foxbusiness.com

How many left wingers here think this is wrong and racist and why?

You’re the one making it about racism and don’t even know it.

In your own words what is DEI?

Why is DEI not needed?

 

[Risky Thicket]

Wow! Racists and bigots going crazy in this thread.

 

[Questerr]

One of the reasons that America has declined globally and internally is this nonsense called DEI and scoring systems for corporations that are just a replay on a more massive scale than the race baiters Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton ever dreamed of. So much so that any company that doesn't have the proper ratios of color and gender may lose revenue because of a bad SEI score. Even Fox is afraid and is on a drive to comply with DEI so they get good scores. Here is one CEO of an AI company that says NO to this outrage that has dumbed down America.

Scale AI CEO explains why his company will hire for MEI, not DEI: 'Merit, excellence and intelligence'

Scale AI CEO Alexandr Wang won praise from top tech leaders for his company's MEI hiring policy, which prioritizes merit, excellence and intelligence in job candidates.

www.foxbusiness.com

How many left wingers here think this is wrong and racist and why?

Is the reason that white men dominate elected offices and corporate boards because of “merit, excellence, and intelligence”?

Are white men just naturally more meritorious and smarter than non-whites or non-men?

Or are there other influences at play?

 

[anatta]

his company has formalized an MEI hiring policy. That is, "merit, excellence and intelligence," in apparent contrast to DEI, or diversity, equity and inclusion policies popular at other companies.

meritocracy. Salespeople are such.. you sell well or you're out.. it means only the best hold the jobs