Hillary: "Respect our enemies & empathize with them"

[APACHERAT]

Bush was happy to bow his head to the Saudis, who behead more than ISIS and Iran combined.

I think you have Bush confused with Obama. Bush and the other past Presidents who didn't bow at the waist to foreign monarchs.

Proper American protocol, never bow at the waist, only nod or lower the head.
Americans aren't suppose to bow to any king, queen or other monarch, NEVER.
Obama has bowed from the waist with every monarchy he has come into contact with.

 

[MMC]

You are conflating empathy with sympathy.

Empathy is simply the ability to understand why someone feels a certain way. I'd think that would be pretty advantageous when attempting to deal with an enemy.

Really, again show us. How understanding the way Iran feels. Helps us to define the problems?

 

[whysoserious]

Really, again show us. How understanding the way Iran feels. Helps us to define the problems?

How can you fight an enemy you don't understand? You're talking about an idea people were smart enough to understand centuries ago.

 

[MMC]

How can you fight an enemy you don't understand? You're talking about an idea people were smart enough to understand centuries ago.

She said:

empathize with their perspective and point of view.....snip~


How does this define the Problem with Terrorists?

Terrorists <<<<< Cut the Infidels heads off.

Shows us some of this empathy for their perspective and point of view. Show us how it defines the problems.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Do you need reminding of the Arab Spring? Did you need all those lovey dovey and endearing terms the left uses with their intentions?

Sure... What about it? What point is this addressing?

Shocker.....a half wit JV politician that has no Clue in Foreign Policy that experts see her as a failure. Imagine that!

Who is a JV politician? Who have no clue in foreign policy?

Cmon Seriously......lets show an accomplishment of Hillary's at State and lets not talk about Frequent Flyer miles.

I mean a everyday partisan since you like to play partisan cards on the domestic scale would say Bin Laden, kiling Qaddafi, Global Hunger and Food Security program, but remember nothing. She is dirt.

Yes I know it, and She was the one to say it is used to define Problems. So who was playing with the terminology. She either is playing or truly has no clue as to what she is talking about.

So you dont know?

Yeah we can see how that slogan.....just isn't any type of answer whatsoever.

Hillary=bad. I get it.

 

[Kobie]

Really, again show us. How understanding the way Iran feels. Helps us to define the problems?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Sun Tzu, The Art of War

 

[MMC]

Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Nice try.....how does that define the problems?

 

[whysoserious]

She said:

empathize with their perspective and point of view.....snip~


How does this define the Problem with Terrorists?

Terrorists <<<<< Cut the Infidels heads off.

Shows us some of this empathy for their perspective and point of view. Show us how it defines the problems.

Well you may want to empathize with them to understand what the draw is to join - as I stated earlier. If you can limit recruiting, minimize community support, and incentivize the local populace that you are there to help, then you're in a much better position to win.

Not to mention, just understanding how they operate can help you predict their next moves.

 

[MMC]

Sure... What about it? What point is this addressing?


Who is a JV politician? Who have no clue in foreign policy?


I mean a everyday partisan since you like to play partisan cards on the domestic scale would say Bin Laden, kiling Qaddafi, Global Hunger and Food Security program, but remember nothing. She is dirt.
So you dont know?


Hillary=bad. I get it.

That addressed your statement about the guy who gave weapons and was talking about luv. What you don't see the same correlation with the Arab Spring? :roll:

Hillary is the JV politician remember she was a junior senator.

Oh did you want to say killing Bin Laden was a Hillary accomplishment? Libya is an Hillary Accomplishment? Yes the US has lead the world in giving food. Did you want to say this is a Hillary accomplishment?

Uhm.....I know.

It shouldn't be hard to get.....as Hillary = Good. Is only Good for nothin'!

 

[Μολὼν λαβέ]

Actually, it's you who don't comprehend that ISIS doesn't exist in a vacuum, and that Muslims flock to ISIS because of specific and definable motivations. Labeling something as evil is simply intellectual laziness. That's what Bush did in the aftermath of 9/11. He just labeled states as evil and increased hostilities without any foresight or comprehension -- ultimately causing more extremism in the Middle East and making terrorism far worse.

You want more of that? Vote Republican.

It seems the vast majority of Americans voted Republican in November to protest just the kind of :bs you're peddling in this thread.:2rofll:

 

[MMC]

Well you may want to empathize with them to understand what the draw is to join - as I stated earlier. If you can limit recruiting, minimize community support, and incentivize the local populace that you are there to help, then you're in a much better position to win.

Not to mention, just understanding how they operate can help you predict their next moves.

Psychoanalysis of the enemies has been going on for centuries.....now after you learn to feel for the Enemy that does not care what you say or do. Considers you to be an abomination and wants you dead.

How do you define the problems with that empathy? How does empathizing on their ability to draw people to join them. Define the problems?

 

[TheDemSocialist]

That addressed your statement about the guy who gave weapons and was talking about luv. What you don't see the same correlation with the Arab Spring? :roll:

Because there is literally ZERO relevance. Nor did you answer my question of "who the hell is this guy"?

Hillary is the JV politician remember she was a junior senator.

Of course she is. Anyone with a D next to their name and is by Obama and "Obama is the worst!!!!" in your book.

Oh did you want to say killing Bin Laden was a Hillary accomplishment? Libya is an Hillary Accomplishment? Yes the US has lead the world in giving food. Did you want to say this is a Hillary accomplishment?

Did she do that all on her own? No. Did she certainly help do these things? Yes.

It shouldn't be hard to get.....as Hillary = Good. Is only Good for nothin'!

Oh wow! What a "zinger"! You a starting to sound more and more like a hack...

 

[MMC]

Because there is literally ZERO relevance. Nor did you answer my question of "who the hell is this guy"?



Of course she is. Anyone with a D next to their name and is by Obama and "Obama is the worst!!!!" in your book.


Did she do that all on her own? No. Did she certainly help do these things? Yes.


Oh wow! What a "zinger"! You a starting to sound more and more like a hack...

Sure there is relevance, they talked about all those good intentions and gave out weapons. Or did you want to try and deny that BO's Team wasn't doing the same?

Yeah she sat in on the meetings.....okay. Now what did SHE do. That was the question.


Really then why isn't John F Kennedy or Jim Webb the worst in my book. Cmon tell me.....since they are Democrats. Note the difference.....Kennedy, War Hero - Obama, Coward.

So much for that BS talk about hacks.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Sure there is relevance, they talked about all those good intentions and gave out weapons. Or did you want to try and deny that BO's Team wasn't doing the same?

I dont recall Hillary advocating trading with the Islamic Republic of Iran... Can you point me out where she said that?

Yeah she sat in on the meetings.....okay. Now what did SHE do. That was the question.

I get it now. Anyone who has a D next to their name is just "meh they did nothing", but with a "R" its either dont talk about them or "they are soo active!!!"... I get it know...

Really then why isn't John F Kennedy or Jim Webb the worst in my book. Cmon tell me.....since they are Democrats. Note the difference.....Kennedy, War Hero - Obama, Coward.

Ohh I get it now. So you have to serve in the military? Is that it now?

So much for that BS talk about hacks.

:lamo

 

[MMC]

I dont recall Hillary advocating trading with the Islamic Republic of Iran... Can you point me out where she said that?


I get it now. Anyone who has a D next to their name is just "meh they did nothing", but with a "R" its either dont talk about them or "they are soo active!!!"... I get it know...




Ohh I get it now. So you have to serve in the military? Is that it now?


:lamo

False Narrative, no one said anything about a Specific Country.....But then it can be asked how Manpads from Libya got to Syria under her and Bo's watch. Which was again just a correlation to your Tangent about North.

Oh another direction about the Democrats opposed to the Republicans. :roll:


Uhm, the Democrats went with them due to their Military Service. Were you saying they wrong to follow that theory?

 

[TheDemSocialist]

False Narrative, no one said anything about a Specific Country.....But then it can be asked how Manpads from Libya got to Syria under her and Bo's watch. Which was again just a correlation to your Tangent about North.

Of course I did. Who was a US designated terrorist state? Iran
Who did we give weapons too? The Islamic Republic of Iran.

Oh another direction about the Democrats opposed to the Republicans. :roll:

Uhhh

Uhm, the Democrats went with them due to their Military Service. Were you saying they wrong to follow that theory?

Whats this got to do with Hilary Clinton then? Isnt that why a President has military advisors? Or does the President have to be in the arms forces? That what makes President VALID or good in your eyes?

 

[MMC]

Of course I did. Who was a US designated terrorist state? Iran
Who did we give weapons too? The Islamic Republic of Iran.


Uhhh


Whats this got to do with Hilary Clinton then? Isnt that why a President has military advisors? Or does the President have to be in the arms forces? That what makes President VALID or good in your eyes?

Which you asked how was it the same correlation. I pointed that out.

Confused about those tangents with the Demos and Repubs? It just doesn't pan out when I have slammed Bush junior and his policies. As well as the Neo Cons. Oh and even recently Republicans over NDAA.

Uhm that has to do with your question about those with military service with the Democrats.

As for the rest.....yes that's why a President has Military advisors who they are suppose to listen to. Yes it gives that individual more to draw upon with Military experience under their belt. But no.....they don't have to have military experience. That's where having the common sense comes in. To listen to those that know how to conduct wars. Rather than trying to read it from a law book or from a Get Help book with inserts on whats Fashionable and in the now.

 

[APACHERAT]

Whats this got to do with Hilary Clinton then? Isnt that why a President has military advisors? Or does the President have to be in the arms forces? That what makes President VALID or good in your eyes?

In case you haven't got the word, both former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Leon Panetta along with numerous flag officer have said that Obama doesn't listen to his military advisers. That it's Valerie Jarrett and Susan Rice who advise Obama on military matters and national security not the Pentagon or those who wear the uniform. I'm pretty sure you can add Chuck Hagel to the list.

 

[US Conservative]

So how has it worked out during the past six years ?

Obama appeased Vladimir Putin in 2009 and look how that worked out.

Obama supported the Arab Spring and look at the Middle East and North Africa today.

In 2008 America was still a super power, not today.

She's been doing her best Elizabeth Warren/Obama hybrid impression the last few months. She knows she wont win as a hawkish moderate, and she's got to pander to the far left for now-of course she's made everyone sick of her and she's actually quite leftist.

 

[DDD]

Call me crazy but I don't respect ISIS for beheading people in the desert nor do I want to respect them. Respect is still earned in my opinion.

Empathize with their point of view? No **** that.

Use smart power (?) I guess... whatever that means. Use all our tools - absolutely.

Respect as in be aware of them I think she meant. Not disrespect and belittle them to the degree of not being aware of them cause when they respond below radar it may be dangerous.

 

[DDD]

I wonder if she ever read Sun Tzu?

I thought about that too when she said "empathize."

 

[US Conservative]

I thought about that too when she said "empathize."

Long time no talk buddy. She's a paper tiger, by this Americans point of view. I know you are a fan.

 

[DDD]

Long time no talk buddy. She's a paper tiger, by this Americans point of view. I know you are a fan.

Hey bud, what's happening with you lately?

Consider if Hillary was a real tiger, what would she do against the Putin bear?

Yeap, big fan. I just hope that when she becomes POTUS she would not use our admiration towards her against us and have us concede on important political positions.

 

[US Conservative]

Hey bud, what's happening with you lately?

Consider if Hillary was a real tiger, what would she do against the Putin bear?

Yeap, big fan. I just hope that when she becomes POTUS she would not use our admiration towards her against us and have us concede on important political positions.

Same old same old, but its getting cold around here.

She will not thing twice to sell this nation down river-what do you think she will do there?

Explain to me, is there some special love of Bill Clinton there?

 

[DDD]

Same old same old, but its getting cold around here.

She will not thing twice to sell this nation down river-what do you think she will do there?

Explain to me, is there some special love of Bill Clinton there?

Started to get pretty darn cold here too. Snowing too much I hear over there?

I disagree, about her selling both of our countries. I think an "empathetic" approach would be in order.

Do street names, statues, store names, NGO's, baby names, etc., count for "love for the Clintons?"