Hillary Clinton Testimony at House Select Committee on Benghazi, Part 1

[Grant]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

lol...yeah believing an old man with a boat saved life on earth by rescuing one breeding pair of each living creature is so much more reasonable than scientific theories and mathematical models which indicate that the planet is gradually warming. :roll:

Do you have a link to any of that?

 

[Paperview]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

Perhaps you didn't understand the post.

Personally I have no knowledge whether Obama is a Muslim or not (though many Muslims believe he is) but his foreign policy is such a mess Occam's Razor must come into play. You can see what's happened in the Middle East, Europe, his denial of Islamic terrorism, his claim of 'workplace violence, etc. Does any of this make sense to you?

What makes sense is a lot of crazy people really hate Obama, so they will hitch their wagons to any insane theory they have that fits their narrative he's out to destroy America and all they know and love.

 

[Grant]

Folks, is he right? Am I the only person who knows what the general term "far right" refers to?

Are you looking for a poll on what 'far right' means? Why? Can you not discuss the issues without using the term?

I dunno. Googling the term "far right" seems indicate an awful lot of people, newspapers, factual sources, and dictionaries know what it means. Same for everyone who participated in the political compass thread, and the people who designed the political compass survey.

You had to Google what 'far right' means?

Is it possible that you're simply pretending to know it is not a term because you aren't actually interested in discussing the points raised, or are perhaps unable to?

In fact, as mentioned, i'm interested in discussing the issues specifically but without using terms such as left, right, far left, far right, etc. Notice how the term 'Middle' is so seldom used?
Anyway it seems you are an extreme left wing Commie socialist radical fascist, etc., thereby making discussion about the real issues next to impossible.

 

[Grant]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

What makes sense is a lot of crazy people really hate Obama, so they will hitch their wagons to any insane theory they have that fits their narrative he's out to destroy America and all they know and love.

I don't know of anyone who 'hates' Obama but his foreign policy, as anyone can see, is a dangerous mess, with murder and mayhem throughout the Middle East and Africa.

How would you logically explain this?

 

[Paperview]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

I don't know of anyone who 'hates' Obama

:lamo

but his foreign policy, as anyone can see, is a dangerous mess, with murder and mayhem throughout the Middle East and Africa.

How would you logically explain this?

Good lord. :shaking my head:

 

[Mr Person]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

In fact, as mentioned, i'm interested in discussing the issues specifically but without using terms such as left, right, far left, far right, etc.

That's why you used the term "goofy leftists", right?

In the last page of this thread, right?

You goofy leftists really try a man's patience. Do you really not understand the difference between debt and deficit? You're all hopeless.
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

That's some sloppy trolling right there, Mr. "Independent"

 

[Mr Person]

You had to Google what 'far right' means?

Why would that surprise someone who claimed they didn't think it had a meaning?

You are expecting someone to agree with your analysis based on the rather foggy notion that they are 'far right'.
. . . The terms you're using make sense only to yourself.

If you're going to troll, don't be such a moron about it. You aren't supposed to make your target laugh.

 

[calamity]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

Do you have a link to any of that?

Ben Carson: ?I Do Believe in the Six-Day Creation? of the World

He actually thinks the fossils of sea creatures found on mountains are there because of flood waters...For a neurosurgeon he sure is ignorant of the science of geology, specifically tectonic plates, subduction and uplift.

See, that's what happens when you rely on fairy tales to explain how things came to be. You stop being curious. Anyone with a Google can find out why fossils of sea creatures are found in high mountain ranges. Hint: it isn't because of a global flood.

WHALE FOSSILS HIGH IN ANDES SHOW HOW MOUNTAINS ROSE FROM SEA - NYTimes.com

 

[Absentglare]

perjury def. = the offense of willfully telling an untruth in a court after having taken an oath or affirmation.
There is nothing there about it being material to the case.

There is in the US legal definition.

 

[Absentglare]

Perhaps you didn't understand the post.

Personally I have no knowledge whether Obama is a Muslim or not (though many Muslims believe he is) but his foreign policy is such a mess Occam's Razor must come into play. You can see what's happened in the Middle East, Europe, his denial of Islamic terrorism, his claim of 'workplace violence, etc. Does any of this make sense to you?

So you think Dick Cheney is a Muslim ?

 

[Grant]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

That's why you used the term "goofy leftists", right?

That's not discussing a particular issue, it's a common observation.

That's some sloppy trolling right there, Mr. "Independent"

An independent is neither left or right but someone who can laugh at and mock both. Leftists on here, and obviously in this case you mentioned, are an easy target.

 

[Grant]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

Ben Carson: ?I Do Believe in the Six-Day Creation? of the World

He actually thinks the fossils of sea creatures found on mountains are there because of flood waters...For a neurosurgeon he sure is ignorant of the science of geology, specifically tectonic plates, subduction and uplift.

See, that's what happens when you rely on fairy tales to explain how things came to be. You stop being curious. Anyone with a Google can find out why fossils of sea creatures are found in high mountain ranges. Hint: it isn't because of a global flood.

WHALE FOSSILS HIGH IN ANDES SHOW HOW MOUNTAINS ROSE FROM SEA - NYTimes.com

Thanks for that and all the effort you put into it.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

So you think Dick Cheney is a Muslim ?

Well, if you think about it, is there any difference between Dick Cheney's opinions on what to do to the enemy (including torture) and ISIS' practices? We all know what Dick thinks about LGBT rights and women's rights. And if he's half as knowledgeable about the ME as he seems to believe, then he must have known that taking out Saddam would have strengthened Iran's position considerably.

So...Darth Dick, secret agent for Ayatollah Khamenei?

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

Perhaps you didn't understand the post.

Personally I have no knowledge whether Obama is a Muslim or not (though many Muslims believe he is) but his foreign policy is such a mess Occam's Razor must come into play. You can see what's happened in the Middle East, Europe, his denial of Islamic terrorism, his claim of 'workplace violence, etc. Does any of this make sense to you?

Thank you for proving exactly what we keep saying about what's happened to the Right.

 

[Grant]

Well, if you think about it, is there any difference between Dick Cheney's opinions on what to do to the enemy (including torture) and ISIS' practices? We all know what Dick thinks about LGBT rights and women's rights.

I really doubt you do. Why not do a little homework?

And if he's half as knowledgeable about the ME as he seems to believe, then he must have known that taking out Saddam would have strengthened Iran's position considerably.

Why would that have to occur?

So...Darth Dick, secret agent for Ayatollah Khamenei?

Yeah, sure.

 

[Grant]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

Thank you for proving exactly what we keep saying about what's happened to the Right.

Please point out any errors.

 

[Absentglare]

Well, if you think about it, is there any difference between Dick Cheney's opinions on what to do to the enemy (including torture) and ISIS' practices? We all know what Dick thinks about LGBT rights and women's rights. And if he's half as knowledgeable about the ME as he seems to believe, then he must have known that taking out Saddam would have strengthened Iran's position considerably.

So...Darth Dick, secret agent for Ayatollah Khamenei?

No other person has given the Middle East as much reason to hate America as Dick Cheney.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

I really doubt you do. Why not do a little homework?Why would that have to occur?Yeah, sure.

And that's the great difference between many on the right as compared to those on the left. Many on the Right would see my post and take it completely seriously, without ever recognizing the sardonic i.e. joking-but-with-a-serious-point tone of my post, the point being that Dick was no less heartless than many Islamic terrorists. Most on the Left, however, would have recognized it for what it was.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

No other person has given the Middle East as much reason to hate America as Dick Cheney.

I tried hard to think of another example...but I couldn't. A case could be made for Reagan because of our involvement in the Iran/Iraq war, perhaps...but even Reagan would not have publicly supported torture.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

Please point out any errors.

Looking at your post to which I referred, I strongly suspect that pointing out the errors therein would be like describing colors to someone blind since birth.

 

[Grant]

And that's the great difference between many on the right as compared to those on the left. Many on the Right would see my post and take it completely seriously, without ever recognizing the sardonic i.e. joking-but-with-a-serious-point tone of my post, the point being that Dick was no less heartless than many Islamic terrorists. Most on the Left, however, would have recognized it for what it was.

Oh you were jusy==t kidding, huh? You knew his daughter was Gay and that he supports Gay marriage but you decided this was a chance to advance some sardonic humor. Are you joking again about when you calim "Dick was no less heartless than many Islamic terrorists".

Here's a tip. Unless they are professionals where it's understood they will try to be clever, leftists should never try humor or irony.

 

[Grant]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

Looking at your post to which I referred, I strongly suspect that pointing out the errors therein would be like describing colors to someone blind since birth.

So you can't. I thought as much.

 

[GunFora]

Uh, the CIA intelligence bulletin points they were presented with SAID it was a spontaneous protest over the video. The message that was put out is that this was the working theory. And it was called an "Act of Terror".

Trying to draw a distinction between "Act of Terror" and "Terrorist Act" is the height of semantic games. You're complaining that an adjective was used in its noun form!


(And the NYT ran a number of articles quoting sources who were on the ground quoting the leader of the attack saying he planned it over the video).

You're missing the point. Hillary KNEW it was an organized terrorist attack. She lied to the American people and blamed it on a video. She even told[ Sean Smith's mother at his funeral that [paraphrase] "we are going to catch this guy who made the video."

 

[calamity]

You're missing the point. Hillary KNEW it was an organized terrorist attack. She lied to the American people and blamed it on a video. She even told[ Sean Smith's mother at his funeral that [paraphrase] "we are going to catch this guy who made the video."

So? Saying that the attack was motivated by the video is no different than saying the towers were hit because they hate our freedoms. Why do you have a problem with one but not the other?

 

[Paperview]

You're missing the point. Hillary KNEW it was an organized terrorist attack. She lied to the American people and blamed it on a video.

Yeah. whatever you say.

She even told[ Sean Smith's mother at his funeral that [paraphrase] "we are going to catch this guy who made the video."

No, she didn't. You can't even get your talking points right.

It's just the seal's father (Charles Woods, Glenn Beck fan) saying she said that. It's not been corroborated.

Tyrone Wood's mother has a far different take on how things went than he relayed on that day as well.