Hillary Clinton Testimony at House Select Committee on Benghazi, Part 1

[le bouffon]

But then Bush did not blame 9/11/01 on a youtube video.

He blamed it on Saddam, which is equally stupid.

 

[Soho gator]

He blamed it on Saddam, which is equally stupid.

And because of his lies people died - possibly upward of 200K

 

[calamity]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

From the article cited above, and it mirrors my feelings--someone who dislikes the Clintons almost as much as the Bushes--to a T:

I never bought that argument, for a lot of reasons, but Trey Gowdy made it look pretty good Thursday. Those idiots represent everything that is wrong not just with the Republican Party, but with modern politics in general. It's hard to imagine a political compromise that wouldn't be justified if its true aim would be to keep people like those jackasses out of power.

Read more: Trey Gowdy Just Elected Hillary Clinton President | Rolling Stone
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[calamity]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

He escaped a conviction only because the Senate chose not to follow through on the impeachment in the house of reps and toss his worthless ass out of office. And prosecuters failed to take it to an indictment. Sadly presidents equal justice under the law does not seem to apply to presidents.

Actually no. He escaped conviction and an indictment in federal court because he managed to toe that fine line between misleading and perjury. Read up on it.

 

[calamity]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

He lied under oath. That's perjury. Deal with it.

Nope. He answered according to what he believed was true, at least as far as can be proven that he believed it to be true: that blowjobs are not sex.

BTW, if the courts were to prosecute every witness who ever mislead about sexcapades during a deposition in a civil suit, our courts would be filled with ex husbands and wives.

 

[eohrnberger]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

Actually no. He escaped conviction and an indictment in federal court because he managed to toe that fine line between misleading and perjury. Read up on it.

And what fine, trustworthy and upstanding leaders actually do that?

Rather than a point to boast about, it's a point to be ashamed about.

'My guy is great because he was just a tiny bit short of being criminal, committing an illegal act'

What sort of badge of honor is this? What is the nobility of this? This isn't really something to boast about at all.

 

[MAGAnificent]

You never cease to amaze me.

For the record, there was not one lie at all from Bush, or the Republicans, regarding the Iraq war, right?

None whatsoever. You just need to make an honest effort to distinguish between a "lie" and "CIA intelligence turning out to be wrong". Otherwise you are calling Bill and Hillary, Pelosi, Gore, Kerry, Biden, and many of the rest of those democrat clowns liars as well.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Oh, and Hillary Clinton had zero communications with Panneta and Dempsey and only spoke with Obama once during the attack

For 7 hours she was what ? Doing absolutey nothing to help those 4 Americans ?

So she was just sitting there working on the YouTube narrative all by her lonesome while Americans were dying ?


Oh boy she really " wiped the floor with the GOP " tonight....

And that wench wants to be president?

 

[MAGAnificent]

The Bush-Cheney administration publicly misrepresented the intelligence related to Iraq's supposed WMD program and Saddam's alleged links to Al Qaeda. This is per Michael Morell, a longtime CIA official who eventually became the agency's deputy director and acting director. During the preinvasion period, he served as Bush's intelligence briefer. This was stated to Chris Matthews during an interview.

So, no ties between Hussein and Al Qaeda. None. A made up lie.

You are making it up as you go along.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Fox is talking it up - they just stopped the live audio feed from the hearing at some point (while continuing the video), and went to commentators verbalizing over the live video feed describing what was being said at the hearing.

Which struck me as really odd.

(for the record - By the time I started watching this evening, FOX had already dropped the live audio)

Get over it, sport. That is how all of the news networks cover such events. They do not maintain gavel to gavel coverage. If you want that.....tune into CSPAN.

 

[le bouffon]

None whatsoever. You just need to make an honest effort to distinguish between a "lie" and "CIA intelligence turning out to be wrong". Otherwise you are calling Bill and Hillary, Pelosi, Gore, Kerry, Biden, and many of the rest of those democrat clowns liars as well.

“For more than a decade, the United States and other nations have pursued patient and honorable efforts to disarm the Iraqi regime without war.”

George W. Bush, 17th of March, 2003.

The US-led United Nations regime of sanctions against Iraq, coupled with “no-fly” zones and provocative weapons inspections, was not a patient and honorable efforts. The deliberate withholding of food, medical supplies and other vital necessities is responsible for the death of more than a million Iraqis, half of them children. Lie?

I also love how you resort to your "CIA intelligence turning out to be wrong" option if you're faced with reality.

 

[le bouffon]

You are making it up as you go along.

Prove me otherwise. There has been no link between Saddam and Al Qaeda.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Let's not forget the lack of armor under those Humvees that resulted in all those amputees and head trauma victims.

At least Bush did respond and add armor to the Humvees. Do you really think there has not been a war other then Iraq without amputees and head trauma victims?

 

[MAGAnificent]

I've tried to be as unbiased and reasonable here on DP and I think I have done a good job weighing both sides so here's my take:
This is an issue. An issue of importance. But of not a great amount of importance. Clinton should of handled the situation better in the aftermath and there was next to nothing reasonable she could of done prior to the attack. As so often happens in politics, a small issue gets blown into a large blamefest in order to push ones own agenda. The left pushes gun control after mass shootings and the right is now going on a witch hunt after Hillary because of this.
There's my two cents but I doubt anyone will hear me above their own partisan nonsense.

Perhaps Hillary could not have prevented the attack...however she could have responded to the over 600 requests for increased security and she could have avoided attampting to blame the attack on an obscure youtube video.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Who led the Iraq war again? I didn't know that Kerry, Waxman or Gore were President.

That is a hilarious attempt at a dodge.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

Exactly....and it drives the left bonkers!

It's also why the left is screeching about how long the investigation has been going on. They are truly afraid that Gowdy will get to the bottom of what went on that night and that it will hurt Hillary's political ambitions for 2016.

 

[calamity]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

Secretary Clinton explained, in her book, the assement process during that time.






Sometimes things aren't known in an instant, it takes time.


But the true believers just 'know' there has to be something nefarious there. I mean after all, there had to be an excuse for the guy with the funny name kicking their but, not once, but twice.


Haters gonna hate.

And Mrs Clinton raked that third rate amateur from South Carolina, Trey Gowdy, over the coals. He looked worse than a deer caught in the headlights.

This was Hillary's JFK vs Richard Nixon moment. And, she aced it. Did you see that sweaty film on the over-matched congressman's mug? Epic.

 

[calamity]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

It's also why the left is screeching about how long the investigation has been going on. They are truly afraid that Gowdy will get to the bottom of what went on that night and that it will hurt Hillary's political ambitions for 2016.

Based on what the country saw yesterday, Gowdy couldn't get to the bottom of a sand box.

All he did was cement Hillary's position, not only that she should be the nominee, but also that no way should a Republican be elected president. Total fail.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

Unfortunately, I think the Benghazi committee did Hillary more good than harm. She handled it just fine. No question her coronation will be complete. The only issue will be whether or not she can beat the republican nominee.

I disagree. I think in the very least, it has showed how poor her judgement is and how poorly she would perform as president. And in the long run....all of the leftwingers who are circling the wagons around her would be better served if Hillary does lose this bid for president. They are very hot and bothered about the firestorm around her at this time....if she is elected president, it will be much worse. The Clinton's were scandal plagued through bubba's five terms as governor, they went into Washington DC and became embroiled in more scandals. ..they were even involved in one while leaving DC.

 

[calamity]

At least Bush did respond and add armor to the Humvees. Do you really think there has not been a war other then Iraq without amputees and head trauma victims?

Pentagon balked at pleas for safer vehicles - USATODAY.com

On Dec. 22, 2004 — two weeks after President Bush told families of servicemembers that "we're doing everything we possibly can to protect your loved ones" — a U.S. Army general solicited ideas for an armored vehicle for the Iraqis. The Army had an "extreme interest" in getting troops better armor, then-brigadier general Roger Nadeau told a subordinate looking at foreign technology, in an e-mail obtained by USA TODAY.

In a follow-up message, Nadeau clarified his request: "What I failed to point out in my first message to you folks is that the US Govt is interested not for US use, but for possible use in fielding assets to the Iraqi military forces."

It's good that "fail" is part of your screen name. Fits.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

She's clearly more intelligent than Trey Gowdy and his cast of RW characters in this clown show.

If Hillary were even half as intelligent as you would like to think she is, she would have handled Benghazi alot more professionally, and she would not have been so incredibly stupid in regards to her email server.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

Actually all the founders would be liberals. The conservatives of today want whats bad for the American people, the founders would be ashamed of every one.

The founders believed in limited government...just like today's conservatives. The founders would be ashamed of the bloated big government and forced income redistribution that today's liberals push.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

This perfectly sums up how badly the Gowdy Bunch screwed up. Almost assuring us that a Mrs President Clinton will come to pass.

Trey Gowdy Just Elected Hillary Clinton President | Rolling Stone

Not that you'll read it. But, you really should.

I doubt that you believe your own bull. I think you are very frightened at what's happening to Hillary in these hearings.

 

[MAGAnificent]

He blamed it on Saddam, which is equally stupid.

He did no such thing.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Re: Hillary is getting hammered hard! Fun times!

Actually no. He escaped conviction and an indictment in federal court because he managed to toe that fine line between misleading and perjury. Read up on it.

I did. I am correct. You need gain a modicum of objectivity.