Hillary Clinton Testimony at House Select Committee on Benghazi, Part 1

[Grant]

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I'm so looking forward to the second week of November of next year...and the replay of 2012's "what the hell happened???" by Fox News and the conservative media.

You think a Hillary win would be good for the country?

 

[Soho gator]

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You think a Hillary win would be good for the country?

Better than any GOP alternative save Kasich. Martin O'malley might be a better president but he's not getting elected.

 

[BWG]

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I'm so looking forward to the second week of November of next year...and the replay of 2012's "what the hell happened???" by Fox News and the conservative media.

The disbelief on Rove's face was priceless.

 

[eohrnberger]

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Oh, was Hillary the one goes to the news with the talking points? I could swear it was Susan Rice.

Virtually any major attack of a US embassy qualifies as terrorism. President Bush 2 had over a dozen. Why don't you go digging around those?

Oh- right. You don't care about right or wrong, you just want to skewer a politician you don't like.

(start a 1 minute in)

She blames that attacks on embassies, including the planned Benghazi attack, on an Internet video.
And so does Obama. And this is after her email to the Egyptian official stating that it wasn't the internet video.

Obama, Hillary, Rice, and the rest of the administration bold faced lied to the entire electorate. They stated one thing as fact while they knew the truth was something completely different.

It's a recurring theme with them, which has been often documented in this thread and in many other threads, in the media and elsewhere.

Congenital liars, the bunch of them.

So no, it wasn't just Rice and her talking points, although those were lies as well. Obama and Hillary stated the same lie in the video clip.

 

[polgara]

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(start a 1 minute in)

She blames that attacks on embassies, including the planned Benghazi attack, on an Internet video.
And so does Obama. And this is after her email to the Egyptian official stating that it wasn't the internet video.

Obama, Hillary, Rice, and the rest of the administration bold faced lied to the entire electorate. They stated one thing as fact while they knew the truth was something completely different.

It's a recurring theme with them, which has been often documented in this thread and in many other threads, in the media and elsewhere.

Congenital liars, the bunch of them.

So no, it wasn't just Rice and her talking points, although those were lies as well. Obama and Hillary stated the same lie in the video clip.

Greetings, Erik. :2wave:

Both Rice and Hillary called Obama "boss" at that time. It may be different in government, but in the business world you don't challenge what your boss wants done, even if they're full of ****. You can be a whistleblower or argue with them if you want to commit job suicide, but not many are willing to do that, especially those at that level. So lies get told. It's too bad our noses don't grow with every lie told, though. We'd see some people with a nose slung across their shoulder, and even if we didn't know exactly why, we'd sure know who! :shock:

 

[eohrnberger]

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Greetings, Erik. :2wave:

Both Rice and Hillary called Obama "boss" at that time. It may be different in government, but in the business world you don't challenge what your boss wants done, even if they're full of ****. You can be a whistleblower or argue with them if you want to commit job suicide, but not many are willing to do that, especially those at that level. So lies get told. It's too bad our noses don't grow with every lie told, though. We'd see some people with a nose slung across their shoulder, and even if we didn't know exactly why, we'd sure know who! :shock:

Greetings, Polgara. :2wave:

There's re-telling your boss' lie, and then there's not contradicting your boss. Those are two separate things.

Hillary appears to have chosen to lie for her boss, or at least re-tell her boss' lie. How is that any excuse for anything?

Humorous idea if people's noses would grow if they told a lie.

 

[polgara]

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Greetings, Polgara. :2wave:

There's re-telling your boss' lie, and then there's not contradicting your boss. Those are two separate things.

Hillary appears to have chosen to lie for her boss, or at least re-tell her boss' lie. How is that any excuse for anything?

Humorous idea if people's noses would grow if they told a lie.

Susan Rice went on several talk shows immediately after the attack on the Benghazi facility telling everyone it was a result of a video. She indicated to the committee investigating this that she's not sorry she said what she did because that's what she was told. I just watched so-called "whistleblower" Gregory Hicks testify before the committee, but I don't know when that hearing was since it was not dated that I could see. He was apparently the last person to speak to Ambassador Stevens before he was killed, though, and when he was asked by the committee was they talked about, he said Stevens just said "we are under attack," and the line went dead. Hicks was demoted after his testimony. :shock:

 

[Absentglare]

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(start a 1 minute in)

She blames that attacks on embassies, including the planned Benghazi attack, on an Internet video.
And so does Obama. And this is after her email to the Egyptian official stating that it wasn't the internet video.

Obama, Hillary, Rice, and the rest of the administration bold faced lied to the entire electorate. They stated one thing as fact while they knew the truth was something completely different.

It's a recurring theme with them, which has been often documented in this thread and in many other threads, in the media and elsewhere.

Congenital liars, the bunch of them.

So no, it wasn't just Rice and her talking points, although those were lies as well. Obama and Hillary stated the same lie in the video clip.

Actually, it wasn't a lie.

The video was related.

Which makes all this blathering by the right just all the more ridiculous. I've explained this at least half a dozen times.

 

[eohrnberger]

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Susan Rice went on several talk shows immediately after the attack on the Benghazi facility telling everyone it was a result of a video. She indicated to the committee investigating this that she's not sorry she said what she did because that's what she was told. I just watched so-called "whistleblower" Gregory Hicks testify before the committee, but I don't know when that hearing was since it was not dated that I could see. He was apparently the last person to speak to Ambassador Stevens before he was killed, though, and when he was asked by the committee was they talked about, he said Stevens just said "we are under attack," and the line went dead. Hicks was demoted after his testimony. :shock:

And that would be a fine example of someone who contradicted their boss' lie, or so it would seem.

Someone who put honesty and integrity over the lie, and for that he should be commended, and the administration condemned for it's retribution upon him.

 

[eohrnberger]

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Actually, it wasn't a lie.

The video was related.

Which makes all this blathering by the right just all the more ridiculous. I've explained this at least half a dozen times.

Since when is an obscure internet video related to the attack on Benghazi?
Since when is an obscure internet video related to a planned and organized attack by Islamic militants to a known insecure and ill defended US mission?

Your claim rings hollow.

 

[Paperview]

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Since when is an obscure internet video related to the attack on Benghazi?
Since when is an obscure internet video related to a planned and organized attack by Islamic militants to a known insecure and ill defended US mission?

Your claim rings hollow.

It wasn't obscure at that point. The video was being being blasted on Middle Eastern TV's and news of it became viral by Sept 11. It was headline news all over the world. Have you forgotten?

Also, too: "The video gained international attention when a Florida pastor began promoting it along with his own proclamation of Sept. 11 as “International Judge Muhammad Day.”

^ Report from September 11, 2012. ^

Anger Over a Film Fuels Anti-American Attacks in Libya and Egypt


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/w...anti-american-attacks-in-libya-and-egypt.html

 

[Paperview]

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What's more...

At the hearings, she made it very clear about why she mentioned the video --

Hillary was telegraphing the video because she wanted to send a broader message to the region, noting, “I needed to be talking about the video, because I needed to put other governments and other people on notice that we were not going to let them get away with attacking us … .”


There had been violent demonstrations about the video at the US Embassy in Cairo and was threatening to spread all over the Muslim world - in fact it did, 54 riots and demonstrations broke out all over the world, threatened our US foreign service personnel and those who worked under Mrs. Clinton.


It was very important to make it clear the US govt had nothing to do with making the video and to condemn it.


[MRS.CLINTON]. During the day on September 11th, as you did mention, Congressman, there was a very large protest against our embassy in Cairo. Protesters breached the walls. They tore down the American flag. And it was of grave concern to us because the inflammatory video had been shown on Egyptian television, which has a broader reach than just inside Egypt.


"And if you look at what I said, I referred to the video that night in a very specific way. I said, some have sought to justify the attack because of the video.


"I used those words deliberately, not to ascribe a motive to every attacker but as a warning to those across the region that there was no justification for further attacks.


"And, in fact, during the course of that week, we had many attacks that were all about the video. We had people breaching the walls of our embassies in Tunis, in Khartoum; we had people, thankfully not Americans, dying at protests. But that's what was going on, Congressman...."

[h=3]Hillary Clinton's Live Testimony Before House[/h]http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1510/22/lvab.02.html


She explained at the hearing *why* it was important for her as SOS to mention the video publicly in light of the very real threats to US personnel at our Embassies all over the Muslim world at the time.

 

[Fenton]

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At the hearings, she made it very clear about why she mentioned the video --

Hillary was telegraphing the video because she wanted to send a broader message to the region, noting, “I needed to be talking about the video, because I needed to put other governments and other people on notice that we were not going to let them get away with attacking us … .”


There had been violent demonstrations about the video at the US Embassy in Cairo and was threatening to spread all over the Muslim world - in fact it did, 54 riots and demonstrations broke out all over the world, threatened our US foreign service personnel and those who worked under Mrs. Clinton.


It was very important to make it clear the US govt had nothing to do with making the video and to condemn it.


[MRS.CLINTON]. During the day on September 11th, as you did mention, Congressman, there was a very large protest against our embassy in Cairo. Protesters breached the walls. They tore down the American flag. And it was of grave concern to us because the inflammatory video had been shown on Egyptian television, which has a broader reach than just inside Egypt.


"And if you look at what I said, I referred to the video that night in a very specific way. I said, some have sought to justify the attack because of the video.


"I used those words deliberately, not to ascribe a motive to every attacker but as a warning to those across the region that there was no justification for further attacks.


"And, in fact, during the course of that week, we had many attacks that were all about the video. We had people breaching the walls of our embassies in Tunis, in Khartoum; we had people, thankfully not Americans, dying at protests. But that's what was going on, Congressman...."

[h=3]Hillary Clinton's Live Testimony Before House[/h]http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1510/22/lvab.02.html


She explained at the hearing *why* it was important for her as SOS to mention the video publicly in light of the very real threats to US personnel at our Embassies all over the Muslim world at the time.

Nice try.

There was ZERO ambiguity in her communication to the Egyptian PM a day after the attack.

" We KNOW this was a terrorist attack, not a protest "

2 days after the attack she stood in front of the coffins and perpetuated the lie that it was over a YouTube video.

She told the Family those who lost their sons that they were going to find and prosecute the man that made that video.

She and Obama from the night of the attack politically exploited the deaths of those 4 Americans and have been ever since

 

[Paperview]

You really don't understand how.things.work., do you?

 

[Paperview]

Type this in your google-fu and see what you come up with: "the governments as the videos"

Here. I'll help:
https://www.google.com/search?q="the+governments+as+the+videos"&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

What do you see there?

 

[eohrnberger]

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It wasn't obscure at that point. The video was being being blasted on Middle Eastern TV's and news of it became viral by Sept 11. It was headline news all over the world. Have you forgotten?

Also, too: "The video gained international attention when a Florida pastor began promoting it along with his own proclamation of Sept. 11 as “International Judge Muhammad Day.”

^ Report from September 11, 2012. ^

Anger Over a Film Fuels Anti-American Attacks in Libya and Egypt


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/w...anti-american-attacks-in-libya-and-egypt.html

What's more...

At the hearings, she made it very clear about why she mentioned the video --

Hillary was telegraphing the video because she wanted to send a broader message to the region, noting, “I needed to be talking about the video, because I needed to put other governments and other people on notice that we were not going to let them get away with attacking us … .”


There had been violent demonstrations about the video at the US Embassy in Cairo and was threatening to spread all over the Muslim world - in fact it did, 54 riots and demonstrations broke out all over the world, threatened our US foreign service personnel and those who worked under Mrs. Clinton.


It was very important to make it clear the US govt had nothing to do with making the video and to condemn it.


[MRS.CLINTON]. During the day on September 11th, as you did mention, Congressman, there was a very large protest against our embassy in Cairo. Protesters breached the walls. They tore down the American flag. And it was of grave concern to us because the inflammatory video had been shown on Egyptian television, which has a broader reach than just inside Egypt.


"And if you look at what I said, I referred to the video that night in a very specific way. I said, some have sought to justify the attack because of the video.


"I used those words deliberately, not to ascribe a motive to every attacker but as a warning to those across the region that there was no justification for further attacks.


"And, in fact, during the course of that week, we had many attacks that were all about the video. We had people breaching the walls of our embassies in Tunis, in Khartoum; we had people, thankfully not Americans, dying at protests. But that's what was going on, Congressman...."

[h=3]Hillary Clinton's Live Testimony Before House[/h]http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1510/22/lvab.02.html


She explained at the hearing *why* it was important for her as SOS to mention the video publicly in light of the very real threats to US personnel at our Embassies all over the Muslim world at the time.

Video fuels protests in front of US embassies in the Middle East. The video does not fuel organized and planned attacks on US embassies.

Makes little sense to bring up the video as a means to thwart attacks as the video didn't cause attacks, it only caused protests - no damage, no injuries.

It does make sense for her to emphasis "that there was no justification for further attacks" and also that the US government had nothing to do with the inflammatory video. Fine.

It also makes no sense to continue to bring up the video in the context of the Benghazi attack (which was done by Obama, Hillary, Rice and others from the administration, for a number of weeks afterward - these are the instances of the lies), as these two things were wholly unconnected from the git go, and were known to be wholly unconnected from the git go.

Bottom line is every time anyone connected the video and the Benghazi attack, they were lying to you. Obama, Hillary, Rice, and others from the administration were doing this for a number of weeks after the Benghazi attack.

 

[Paperview]

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Keep ****ing that chicken, pubbies.

Benghazi: GOP's helping hand for Hillary Clinton - CNN.com

From David Gergan no less.

"For Hillary Clinton, Republicans have become the gift that keeps on giving. Mrs. Clinton owes much of her extraordinary comeback to her own abilities, but surely she must be grateful to the GOP as well. Never in modern times has a political party done so much to rehabilitate the leading presidential candidate in the other party."

"The gifts have come in rapid succession:

-- The way Republicans have converted Donald Trump into GOP front-runner. For all for their misgivings about Clinton, Trump scares the bejesus out of millions of Americans. How long before we see sprouting of groups like "Republican Women for Hillary"?


Shooting themselves in the foot

<snip>

Do you think the Benghazi committee would have conducted itself this way if the star witness had not been Hillary Clinton, the likely Democratic nominee? The question answers itself.

In this coming political year, the country needs a robust debate about our direction and plans for going forward. We are at a critical inflection point on many fronts. And we would be best-served if we could decide between two strong candidates representing two strong parties. But judging from recent events, we may not get there -- the Republicans could give it away long before the vote. "

*ouch*

 

[Paperview]

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Video fuels protests in front of US embassies in the Middle East. The video does not fuel organized and planned attacks on US embassies.

Makes little sense to bring up the video as a means to thwart attacks as the video didn't cause attacks, it only caused protests - no damage, no injuries.

Er, you quoted it, but you didn't even read it?

No damage, no injuries?

"And, in fact, during the course of that week, we had many attacks that were all about the video. We had people breaching the walls of our embassies in Tunis, in Khartoum; we had people, thankfully not Americans, dying at protests. But that's what was going on, Congressman...."

That was right from the post you clipped.

Further...

CLINTON: We also knew, Congressman, because my responsibility was what was happening throughout the region, I needed to be talking about the video, because I needed to put other governments and other people on notice that we were not going to let them get away with attacking us, as they did in Tunis, is they did in Khartoum.


And in Tunis there were thousands of protesters who were there only because of the video, breaching the walls of our embassy, burning down the American school. I was calling everybody in the Tunisian government I could get, and finally, President Marzouki sent his presidential guard to break it up. There were -- is example after example. That's what I was trying to do, during those very desperate and difficult hours."

If you'd watched the hearing, (or been paying attention that week in 2012, you'd have known this:

Please play the tape.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)


"Protests have spread over an amateur video made in the United States which mocks Islam. In the Afghan capital, Kabul, a thousand Afghans held a violent protests, burning cars and tires and shooting at police.

In the Indonesian capital, Jakarta, hundreds of protesters from hard line (ph) Islamic groups threw petrol bombs and rocks outside the American Embassy.


And in Pakistan, at least one protester was killed.

...
Let's go live on the half now to the streets of Beirut.


(END VIDEO VLIP)
CUMMINGS: Secretary Clinton, what was your sense of how things were unfolding?


CLINTON: Congressman, they were very dangerous and very volatile.

Starting on Monday with the attack on our embassy in Cairo, going all the way through that week into the next week, there were numerous protests, some of which you have shown us clips of. And they were dangerous.


You know, the one that -- that I was particularly concerned about happened in Tunis, and it was the Friday after the attack in Benghazi.


We knew from monitoring the media, from reports coming in from our embassies throughout the region, that this was a very hot issue. It was not going away. It was being kept alive. We were particularly worried about what might happen on Friday, because Friday is the day of prayers for Muslims.


So, we were on very high alert going into Friday."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...testifies-before-house-committee-on-benghazi/

 

[calamity]

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Keep ****ing that chicken, pubbies.

Benghazi: GOP's helping hand for Hillary Clinton - CNN.com

From David Gergan no less.

"For Hillary Clinton, Republicans have become the gift that keeps on giving. Mrs. Clinton owes much of her extraordinary comeback to her own abilities, but surely she must be grateful to the GOP as well. Never in modern times has a political party done so much to rehabilitate the leading presidential candidate in the other party."

"The gifts have come in rapid succession:

-- The way Republicans have converted Donald Trump into GOP front-runner. For all for their misgivings about Clinton, Trump scares the bejesus out of millions of Americans. How long before we see sprouting of groups like "Republican Women for Hillary"?


Shooting themselves in the foot

<snip>

Do you think the Benghazi committee would have conducted itself this way if the star witness had not been Hillary Clinton, the likely Democratic nominee? The question answers itself.

In this coming political year, the country needs a robust debate about our direction and plans for going forward. We are at a critical inflection point on many fronts. And we would be best-served if we could decide between two strong candidates representing two strong parties. But judging from recent events, we may not get there -- the Republicans could give it away long before the vote. "

*ouch*

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[calamity]

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From the DG article above:

this week's marathon grilling of Clinton by the Benghazi committee that fortified the widespread belief -- some 70% of people on the eve of the testimony according to a CNN poll -- that the hearings were a partisan witch hunt.

Wow...just wow

 

[year2late]

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You think a Hillary win would be good for the country?

The witch hunters are making her the best choice.

 

[cpwill]

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Republicans should be ashamed of themselves for exploiting those deaths for political gain.

I'm sorry. What was that? I can't hear you over the sound of the hypocrisy.





Hillary patently lied. To the nation, and to the families.

 

[pbrauer]

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Benghazi Has Become A Political Trap From Which Republicans Cannot Escape [Vox]


The Benghazi Hearings Sham [Slate]


The Benghazi Hearing Farce [Time]


Hillary Had A Lovely Benghazi Day [Daily Beast]


Benghazi Bust [Washington Examiner]


The GOP's Unfortunate Benghazi Hearing [Washington Post]


Benghazi Committee Gives Hillary Clinton Presidential Platform [ABC News]


Trey Gowdy Just Elected Hillary Clinton President [Rolling Stone]

 

[calamity]

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I'm sorry. What was that? I can't hear you over the sound of the hypocrisy.





Hillary patently lied. To the nation, and to the families.

Too bad the GOP is too stupid to prove it and instead showed themselves to be the liars--you know, the lie that the hearings were not about politics bs that McCarthy admitted were about politics. Like I said, the GOP is too stupid... :lol:

 

[Absentglare]

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Since when is an obscure internet video related to the attack on Benghazi?
Since when is an obscure internet video related to a planned and organized attack by Islamic militants to a known insecure and ill defended US mission?

Your claim rings hollow.

No, no it doesn't.

Libyans angry over film set fire to US consulate - Yahoo News

AP knew it from feet on the ground.

Now please stop all this ridiculous "it was about a video but she didn't call it terrorism wahhhhh wahhhh" bull**** PLEASE.