High school teacher quitting, says technology is terrible for classroom learning

[Josie]

The only problem I see with that is that kids have different learning styles. I've sat with kids who struggled to absorb what was on their screen and as soon as we transferred the concept to pencil and paper, something clicked.

Yep. We have benchmark testing that's all done on computer and I take the results with a pinch of salt. Some kids need the physical book, pencil/paper.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Rerouted my VPN for just a moment and forced all extensions to be dumped, the OP's links point to a single teacher complaining about what we already know. At times technology can be misused and become a distraction or reason to be lazy with school work.

That is all this is about, the first link is the article and the second is more a homepage. All the Daily Mail UK. I see truncated alternate URLs I think mobile.

There is very little to talk about here but perhaps this teacher's inability to deal with students. The rant seems like a cop out.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Yep. We have benchmark testing that's all done on computer and I take the results with a pinch of salt. Some kids need the physical book, pencil/paper.

Some do, some don't. Each child learns differently. As I stated earlier in this thread, my wife was a school teacher till she retired. The number one problem with trying to teach kids is parents saying "that is not the way I want mine taught."

 

[BirdinHand]

While students need to be taught how to use technology, they shouldn't be spending more than half of their school day staring at a screen.

Teaching elementary school for a long time, I've found that if you give kids the choice of having a movie party or taking them outside for an extra recess, they overwhelmingly want an extra recess.

In all fairness, students should be engaged in hands on learning for the largest part of their day - not staring at anything. Be it a screen or a paper.

Anecdotal observations regarding a movie vs. recess really have no bearing on education

 

[Josie]

In all fairness, students should be engaged in hands on learning for the largest part of their day - not staring at anything. Be it a screen or a paper.

Anecdotal observations regarding a movie vs. recess really have no bearing on education

LOL! Sure. Observations and opinions from teachers have no bearing. Oh, Bird.

 

[BirdinHand]

LOL! Sure. Observations and opinions from teachers have no bearing. Oh, Bird.

What value or keen insight about education is gleaned from you telling us kids prefer outdoor recess versus being inside watching a movie?

 

[Josie]

What value or keen insight about education is gleaned from you telling us kids prefer outdoor recess versus being inside watching a movie?

It's a discussion board, Bird. We're having a discussion about our experiences and opinions about the topic. Not everything has to be a fight.

 

[BirdinHand]

It's a discussion board, Bird. We're having a discussion about our experiences and opinions about the topic. Not everything has to be a fight.

Well, Josie, thanks for letting us know elementary aged kids like recess.

No one would have ever guessed that or known that without your valuable input.

 

[poweRob]

Nope. Never was a school teacher.

And this atheist trash, myself, would like to say, THANK GOD!

To claim that I have "no clue" is something that you pulled out of your fat, ignorant, ass.

Yeah you haven't a clue.

I've trained MANY successful people in my fields of expertise. Now, go slither back into the sewer where you belong.

 

[GIJane]

What’s a “democratic school district”?

What constitutes “garbage”?

What metrics are you utilizing to arrive at this obviou well informed and cogent post?

LA county schools in Cali. I think we can all agree LA is a "Democratic School District" based on the political slant and large influence of NEA/AFT

2023–24 Smarter Balanced ELA and Mathematics Test Results at a Glance - CAASPP Reporting (CA Dept of Education)

Information about Smarter Balanced ELA and Mathematics Test Results

caaspp-elpac.ets.org

48.11% met or exceeded ELA standards
36,47% met or exceeded math standards.
Statewide it was 47% and 36% respectively
Oddly the LA College Prep Academy was:
drumroll please
50% and ZERO%


Reedley Cali was at 77% and 45%. Small school southeast of Fresno. I choose it because I had a Great Aunt that lived there.


Yeah you guys are doing a bang up job.

 

[BirdinHand]

LA county schools in Cali. I think we can all agree LA is a "Democratic School District" based on the political slant and large influence of NEA/AFT

2023–24 Smarter Balanced ELA and Mathematics Test Results at a Glance - CAASPP Reporting (CA Dept of Education)

Information about Smarter Balanced ELA and Mathematics Test Results

caaspp-elpac.ets.org

48.11% met or exceeded ELA standards
36,47% met or exceeded math standards.
Statewide it was 47% and 36% respectively
Oddly the LA College Prep Academy was:
drumroll please
50% and ZERO%


Reedley Cali was at 77% and 45%. Small school southeast of Fresno. I choose it because I had a Great Aunt that lived there.


Yeah you guys are doing a bang up job.

So, your example is a district that exceeds statewide performance?

Not the approach I would have taken - but you do you

 

[soap box]

While students need to be taught how to use technology, they shouldn't be spending more than half of their school day staring at a screen.

Teaching elementary school for a long time, I've found that if you give kids the choice of having a movie party or taking them outside for an extra recess, they overwhelmingly want an extra recess.

I believe a district should set limits for daily in-class screen time.

I also oppose the shrinking recess phenomenon in elementary.

I've had success with posing a question, like Confederate statues, and ask the students to do research on the net and prepare a persuasive essay with facts they were able to find. I believe there are good uses, but I feel very strongly that nothing replaces discussion and interaction with peers and the teacher.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

from the link to the story on the Daily Mail website...

'My students won’t even Google now that AI is around. Google means looking at a few websites while AI just tells them. Wild,' explained a fellow teacher.

My goodness, I remember gnashing my teeth in the 2000's when students asked why I made them do field trips to physical libraries when they could simply Google the information on their phones.

Still, I took classes on a 2 mile walk 3 times a year to the physical library until 2020 when I started making plans to quit and nobody ever complained when we actually got to the University library.

Anyhow, reading a separate story about behaviour at a school in Ipswich (United Kingdom) having kids use AI instead of Google seems a fairly light worry for a teacher.

Ipswich teachers on strike after 'scissors thrown at them'

Staff say they are often unable to teach as large groups of students roam the school.

www.bbc.co.uk

Teachers at Westbourne Academy are having chairs and scissors thrown at them, and many are struggling with their mental health, Ms Walker says.

Some students are refusing to attend lessons and are disrupting other classes, and even exams, she adds.

"They go and collect other students from classes and roam around in large groups. They come in with no intention of attending any lessons."

 

[nota bene]

from the link to the story on the Daily Mail website...

Ipswich teachers on strike after 'scissors thrown at them'

Staff say they are often unable to teach as large groups of students roam the school.

www.bbc.co.uk

If there are students roaming the halls in groups, aren't these groups known as "gangs"?

The English educational system more than a little confusing to me--e.g. "public school" doesn't mean at all what it does in the United States--so I Googled and learned that academies are state-owned and out of the reach of local authorities. Now I wonder what kind of academy this school with roaming students is. Are the students here part of an underserved population of some kind?

Academy (English school) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[nota bene]

Well, Josie, thanks for letting us know elementary aged kids like recess.

No one would have ever guessed that or known that without your valuable input.

Wasn't the point, though, that given the choice, a lot of kids prefer going outside and being rather than passively entertained/schooled/babysat by a screen and that this is a good thing? Isn't it?

 

[Bodecea]

LA county schools in Cali. I think we can all agree LA is a "Democratic School District" based on the political slant and large influence of NEA/AFT

2023–24 Smarter Balanced ELA and Mathematics Test Results at a Glance - CAASPP Reporting (CA Dept of Education)

Information about Smarter Balanced ELA and Mathematics Test Results

caaspp-elpac.ets.org

48.11% met or exceeded ELA standards
36,47% met or exceeded math standards.
Statewide it was 47% and 36% respectively
Oddly the LA College Prep Academy was:
drumroll please
50% and ZERO%


Reedley Cali was at 77% and 45%. Small school southeast of Fresno. I choose it because I had a Great Aunt that lived there.


Yeah you guys are doing a bang up job.

How are parents doing in supporting their child's education?

 

[GIJane]

How are parents doing in supporting their child's education?

Based on what I've seen in several states, they tend to let teachers do whatever and not participate a lot. Which is the problem. One thing Covid did was alert parents to what teachers were or were not doing. It will be a slow change from apathy, but it's a change.

 

[nota bene]

Based on what I've seen in several states, they tend to let teachers do whatever and not participate a lot. Which is the problem. One thing Covid did was alert parents to what teachers were or were not doing. It will be a slow change from apathy, but it's a change.

Which states would those be? If anything, I think teachers are really restricted in what they teach in most states. Am I mistaken that practically speaking, teaching these days is generally about "teaching to the test" and continual measurement and eval?