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There is a personality type with a New York developer, one Donald learned from Fred when he carried his dad’s briefcase to acquisition meetings out in the boroughs and it goes like this:
Donald contracts for a service or good, or the acquisition of a piece of land for $1 million.
He then does not pay you
You ask Donald for your million dollars
Donald yells at you, basely, abusively, wholly out of character to the rich gentleman you broke bread with and made the deal with. He tells you that no, YOU owe him $200,000. Gives you no reason but screams how can you be such a son of a bitch to rip him off, how he’s going to sue you, expose you as a cheat, etc.
You’re off your pins, defensive. How could this be the guy who was so nice when he picked up the check at Per Se?
So, you compromise, because human nature avoids conflict, right? This is what he’s gaming you for because once you compromised, you’ve lost. You’ve inferred his premise that you have some complicity in the matter otherwise why would you compromise? You are on the defensive and will never get it back.
You offer $750,000 as a settlement, angry buy want it over and done with. He then sues you. Why, because you’ve already committed yourself to the loss. You volunteered to surrender your position and what will stop you from keeping going?
I’ve seen many a New Yorker settle things like this with Trump people for 5-10 cents on the dollar and then happy, even eager to keep doing business with them. Why? Because he got in their heads with this aggressively counterintuitive behavior.
Thank you for opening our eyes to some of the things Trump has done. We need to be apprised of the facts so we can make a proper decision in a republic.Trump uses bullying as a business tactic. Then he stiffs those unwise enough to work with him. Those are his "ethics."
In the business world Trump "is notorious for refusing to pay full price to contractors and vendors after they’ve completed work for him. And he basically dares the people he has stiffed to sue him, knowing that his deep pockets and bevy of lawyers give him a big advantage over those who feel wronged by him."
Now we learn that the $50 million Trump "contributed" to his campaign was just a loan. (I see another thread was started on that.) So any contributions anyone who buys his snake oil could easily end up paying for his next gold-plated bathtub instead of the campaign itself. He's already directed about 10% of his campaign funds toward his own business concerns. What a huckster.
Thank you for opening our eyes to some of the things Trump has done. We need to be apprised of the facts so we can make a proper decision in a republic.
All False statements involving Hillary ClintonLike that, do you? Great! Let's look at some of Trump's mealy mouthed policy positions:
Trump is not a man who says what he means, means what he says. He just babbles.
Trump uses bullying as a business tactic. Then he stiffs those unwise enough to work with him. Those are his "ethics."
In the business world Trump "is notorious for refusing to pay full price to contractors and vendors after they’ve completed work for him. And he basically dares the people he has stiffed to sue him, knowing that his deep pockets and bevy of lawyers give him a big advantage over those who feel wronged by him."
Now we learn that the $50 million Trump "contributed" to his campaign was just a loan. (I see another thread was started on that.) So any contributions anyone who buys his snake oil could easily end up paying for his next gold-plated bathtub instead of the campaign itself. He's already directed about 10% of his campaign funds toward his own business concerns. What a huckster.
I see a lot of allegations from Talking Points Memo, not exactly an unbiased source, but not a lot of backup support. Got .any additional info?
All False statements involving Hillary Clinton
False
A talking point, shattered
Hillary Clinton
HILLARY CLINTON
"It was allowed," referring to her email practices.
— PolitiFact National on Tuesday, May 31st, 2016
False
We counted a lot more than one
Hillary Clinton
HILLARY CLINTON
"Let me say that I don't think (Bernie Sanders has) had a single negative ad ever run against him."
— PolitiFact National on Sunday, May 22nd, 2016
False
Sanders wants more ambitious plan, but supports this one
Hillary Clinton
HILLARY CLINTON
"The Clean Power Plan is something that Sen. Sanders has said he would delay implementing."
— PolitiFact National on Thursday, March 10th, 2016
False
A flubbed talking point
Hillary Clinton
HILLARY CLINTON
"You are three times more likely to be able to get a mortgage if you're a white applicant than if you're black or Hispanic, even if you have the same credentials."
— PolitiFact National on Friday, February 26th, 2016
False
Maybe someday, but not now
Hillary Clinton
HILLARY CLINTON
"We now have more jobs in solar than we do in oil."
— PolitiFact New Hampshire on Friday, January 29th, 2016
False
Longest and most detailed, but hardly the only
Hillary Clinton
HILLARY CLINTON
"I am the only candidate on either side who has laid out a specific plan about what I would do to defeat ISIS."
— PolitiFact National on Wednesday, January 27th, 2016
False
Campaign says she phrased it wrong
Hillary Clinton
HILLARY CLINTON
"Every piece of legislation, just about, that I ever introduced (in the U.S. Senate) had a Republican co-sponsor."
— PolitiFact National on Wednesday, January 20th, 2016
False
She chose the wrong metric
Hillary Clinton
HILLARY CLINTON
"We now have driven (health care) costs down to the lowest they've been in 50 years."
— PolitiFact National on Monday, January 18th, 2016
False
No evidence has emerged
Hillary Clinton
HILLARY CLINTON
ISIS is "going to people showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists."
— PolitiFact National on Saturday, December 19th, 2015
False
The protection isn't bulletproof
Hillary Clinton
HILLARY CLINTON
The gun industry is "the only business in America that is wholly protected from any kind of liability."
— PolitiFact National on Friday, October 16th, 2015
False
Not by a long shot
Hillary Clinton
HILLARY CLINTON
The Benghazi probe is "the longest-running congressional investigation ever."
— PolitiFact National on Friday, October 2nd, 2015
False
Bill never made it to governor's desk
Hillary Clinton
HILLARY CLINTON
Says Scott Walker rejected legislation to make college loan payments tax deductible and the result was "to raise taxes on students."
— PolitiFact Wisconsin on Wednesday, September 9th, 2015
False
Some Republicans have, especially Rubio
And that is only half the first page out of two pages... and it does not even detail her major lies in her past, like landing in Bosnia under fire,etc...
All False statements involving Hillary Clinton | PolitiFact
Like I said, you have opened your eyes to Trump, when are you ever going to give Hillary the proper scrutiny? Oh yeah. Never.
Hillary Clinton's file | PolitiFact
^ Most common result: Mostly True. Least common: Pants on Fire.
Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact
^ Most common result: False. Least common: True.
Thank you for opening our eyes to some of the things Trump has done. We need to be apprised of the facts so we can make a proper decision in a republic.
When is it you will be opening your eyes to Hillary?
Seems to me some nitwit speaking and apparently very forgetful dude just the other day was telling me that we have moderators on site to take care just those sorts of suggestions. Ok?Start your own damned thread about Hillary then.
Or muck this one up and try to keep derailing it.
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I originally sourced Politifact but only because I knew it would not be particularly questioned but accepted from the left... but leaves a lot to be desired as a source.
PF is just not "there" when it comes to the fairness aspect, being biased left. Proof they are not honest brokers comes via links you provided wherein Hillary is allowed to get away with the use of a deliberate/obvious straw-man argument in place of her real assertion and PF turned it into a MOSTLY TRUE when it was patently false.
That's not debate. Prove me wrong. You looked, saw and understood the actual truth, now use avoidance.Don't let the facts get in your way.
That's not debate. Prove me wrong. You looked, saw and understood the actual truth, now use avoidance.
I get it.
Lies aren't facts, well except to liberals.I posted a rebuttal that your cherry-picked post the proper perspective. That's on you if you choose not to accept the facts contained within.
If you want to understand Trump a good start is:
A Psychologist Analyzes Donald Trump’s Personality - The Atlantic
It fails because it fails to take into account that Trump is brilliant and the author does not know how trump views himself which is ridiculous because has has been consistent (and honest) on that.
But it is a good start.
If he's so brilliant, why is it he didn't know Scotland voted to stay in the EU?
Can't wait for the turd polish or evasive manuever I will get.
Cue it up.
trump not remembering something or not having data to analyze does not show an unwise mind
He shows a brilliant mind with understanding that buying off politicians by the powers or rich will stop INVENTIONS and that is what brings progress.... like big oil buying off cruz and the bushs and then they work with the clintons to bring down the middle class with nafta and gatt.. he shows great wisdom with understanding this very important issue ad that is the reason why the highest logic group supports him... white males
IT'S COMING.. one way or the other.. if trump wins he will make a wisdom test for voters along with the other great deeds
if he don't win.. he will lead THE CONSERVATIVE STATES OF AMERICA to become a great empire.. the whole south will secede and all the states up to montana over to alberta who will secede from canada to join the conservative group and alaska.. he will make a wisdom test for voters that will bring the most wise of the world to help like what happenned when the founders allowed ONLY the most wise to vote
I assume he thinks his base thinks that Scotland is a province of Great Britain as Taiwan is a province of China. Given the stupidity of the American people I am happy if they can simply find the place on a map, I dont expect them to know how it fits into the England, Great Britain, UK scheme.
When dealing with Americans setting your expectations low is usually a wise move.
And there you go.....
Trump's failed Baja condo resort left buyers feeling betrayed and angry - LA TimesMost of the Trump Baja condo buyers accused Trump and two of his adult children, Ivanka and Donald Trump Jr., of duping them into believing that Trump was one of the developers, giving them confidence that it was safe to buy unbuilt property in Mexico.
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