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Herd Immunity May Be The Best Solution

digitusmedius said:
Those people on the cruise ship had not been in China. It went from SF to Mexico then Hawaii and back to SF. As usual you're sorely lacking in any facts (unless you're just lying all the time). I don't think any cruise ships cross the entire Pacific to get to China.
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WTF are you talking about? Cruise ships?!!
 
Lursa said:
Sorry. You dont get to make up stuff that conveniently fits your agenda.

You didnt even read your entire source article...and it came back and bit you in the ass.

Post 792 for reference.
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Did they verify it worked? They did. Case closed.
 
Ginger Ale said:
So this is your plan if we can't reach herd immunity? To cry like a baby that our lockdowns ruined humanity? I can see why you like Mr. Trump. Everyone else can see why you nor Mr. Trump should be in office dealing with this pandemic.
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See Sweden run. Run run run.

Then see South Dakota run. Run run run
 
Paradoxical said:
Did they verify it worked? They did. Case closed.
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Not really no. They had no way of knowing if those people would have gotten well anyway. Why would so many other institutions have rejected it if they had?

post 792 for reference

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Luce said:
Marke wants children, their parents, and teachers to die.
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If I wanted them to die I would have sent them to NYC to be murdered by incompetent fools who either do not know what they are doing or are deliberately murdering Americans by the thousands for some unknown reason.

Undercover nurse - covid 19 - MURDER FOR PROFIT - Covid hospital nurse tells what is really going on.
 
Lursa said:
They were working, did work, combined with staying home.

Then when they tried re-opening, alot of people just relaxed too much and stopped using masks and staying 6 feet apart and blew the infection rates all to hell again.
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NYC has the tightest quarantine rules in the country and has had them for the longest and yet continue to have the highest number of deaths per capita of any other state. Any reasonable American could easiy see the quarantinine experiments are not working there.

Why try to prove things when science has never even tried to prove anything?
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Can science prove anything? No, it cannot, and all reasonable scientists know that for a fact. So, science attempts to gather proofs but cannot verify any conclusions are irrefutably proven.
 
digitusmedius said:
The reasons your comments are lies is that we have not even gone through one year of covid so you don't know what the number will be come March 1, 2021 and the fact that children have not been in school and have not been circulating widely in society like adults. I know you won't stop pushing this lie because you people never stop doing that but you know that we know you're spreading lies all the time about everything.
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You presume to call me a liar based upon your estimates of what you speculate the death tolls may become? I did not base my assertion on possible future outcomes or projected future data, I based my assertions on present facts and data. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to propagate a false narrative based upon what are as yet purely theorietical future projections.
 
Lursa said:
Not really no. They had no way of knowing if those people would have gotten well anyway. Why would so many other institutions have rejected it if they had?

post 792 for reference
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So, um. It DID work and now you say the verification method was what you object to. Make up your mind.
 
Lursa said:
What is the context there? What's he saying? Is he a Democrat?

No matter who he is, he should be wearing a mask.
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THe context here is that he's the mayor of Los Angeles, yes a DEmocrat and yes, he marching with and encouraging the protests.
 
Lakryte said:
The link does not say that New York has herd immunity. You demonstrate both a misunderstanding of herd immunity in general, and a lack of attention to the words of your own cited article.
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So, you do deny science. I bet you also deny the science that says that no matter what we do regarding the environment, temps will still rise.
 
Paradoxical said:
How many deaths were there when he shut China out? It was NOT a big thing then and you are rewriting the script. Seems Cuomo, Pelosi and DeBlasio had a big parade AFTER that didn’t they?
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You seem to have amnesia about the fact that Cuomo followed the CDC guidelines at that time, key being "at that time." Cuomo evolved as he followed the evolving CDC rules but Trump has devolved by doing almost nothing, especially in the last month as things have become horrific. You also don't have any animosity towards the Governors of TX, FL, GA, AZ et al that they DID NOT FOLLOW the CDC guidelines to this day. Texas had 174 people die yesterday & 10K or so new cases. New York had 10 deaths, 776 new cases and yesterday was the lowest amount of hospitalizations since March 18. Cuomo - Rock Star - Trump and those other governors dereliction of duty.
 
Paradoxical said:
See Sweden run. Run run run.

Then see South Dakota run. Run run run
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Really - this is too easy to prove you wrong...you have a blind spot for the truth:

Sweden becomes an example of how not to handle COVID-19 - CBS News

From the story:

"But the death toll from Sweden's outbreak is now the fifth-worst in the world, per capita. The country's mortality rate from the coronavirus is now 30% higher than that of the United States when adjusted for population size."
 
jakiejakester said:
You seem to have amnesia about the fact that Cuomo followed the CDC guidelines at that time, key being "at that time." Cuomo evolved as he followed the evolving CDC rules but Trump has devolved by doing almost nothing, especially in the last month as things have become horrific. You also don't have any animosity towards the Governors of TX, FL, GA, AZ et al that they DID NOT FOLLOW the CDC guidelines to this day. Texas had 174 people die yesterday & 10K or so new cases. New York had 10 deaths, 776 new cases and yesterday was the lowest amount of hospitalizations since March 18. Cuomo - Rock Star - Trump and those other governors dereliction of duty.
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Which states have the most deaths per million? So, he can’t think for himself and has to follow rules put out by twenty somethings at the CDC of all places? He had no clue that mainly the elderly were dying? The Cuomo brothers are dumb and dumber and it’s a toss up as to who takes the prize.
 
jakiejakester said:
Really - this is too easy to prove you wrong...you have a blind spot for the truth:

Sweden becomes an example of how not to handle COVID-19 - CBS News

From the story:

"But the death toll from Sweden's outbreak is now the fifth-worst in the world, per capita. The country's mortality rate from the coronavirus is now 30% higher than that of the United States when adjusted for population size."
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Wow, it's hard to imagine CBS supporting the official narrative in this time of universal deception. :lamo
 
jakiejakester said:
But they didn't, did they?
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No. Also no committees and round tables and submitting the results to leftists Or AOC to see what they thought. So, by your goal posts they “failed”.
 
Paradoxical said:
Which states have the most deaths per million? So, he can’t think for himself and has to follow rules put out by twenty somethings at the CDC of all places? He had no clue that mainly the elderly were dying? The Cuomo brothers are dumb and dumber and it’s a toss up as to who takes the prize.
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It's amazing that you belittle the CDC and listen to Trump! Nothing else needs to be said.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Wow, it's hard to imagine CBS supporting the official narrative in this time of universal deception. :lamo
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I already knew that Sweden’s death rate per million was higher (but not the highest). I made a post on it. They are now WAY ahead of the world because no one is dying right now while here in America where we locked down and weren’t brave we are getting sick. Look at the death rates in Sweden today and get back to me.
 
Paradoxical said:
I already knew that Sweden’s death rate per million was higher (but not the highest). I made a post on it. They are now WAY ahead of the world because no one is dying right now while here in America where we locked down and weren’t brave we are getting sick. Look at the death rates in Sweden today and get back to me.
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Yes, Sweden did it right.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Wow, it's hard to imagine CBS supporting the official narrative in this time of universal deception. :lamo
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Cop out answer which is what Trumpsters do they dismiss anything that they disagree with as you are doing now. The numbers in that piece are accurate. If you dispute them please show us your numbers with a link otherwise everyone will know that you're simply following Trump like lemmings do
 
Paradoxical said:
I already knew that Sweden’s death rate per million was higher (but not the highest). I made a post on it. They are now WAY ahead of the world because no one is dying right now while here in America where we locked down and weren’t brave we are getting sick. Look at the death rates in Sweden today and get back to me.
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In NY almost no one is dying now...and Sweden's death rate is 30% higher than the US...facts or read my signature
 
Paradoxical said:
I already knew that Sweden’s death rate per million was higher (but not the highest). I made a post on it. They are now WAY ahead of the world because no one is dying right now while here in America where we locked down and weren’t brave we are getting sick. Look at the death rates in Sweden today and get back to me.
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Here's another story from July 7th...

Sweden Has Become the World’s Cautionary Tale - The New York Times

Read this:

"Ever since the coronavirus emerged in Europe, Sweden has captured international attention by conducting an unorthodox, open-air experiment. It has allowed the world to examine what happens in a pandemic when a government allows life to carry on largely unhindered.

This is what has happened: Not only have thousands more people died than in neighboring countries that imposed lockdowns, but Sweden’s economy has fared little better.

“They literally gained nothing,” said Jacob F. Kirkegaard, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington. “It’s a self-inflicted wound, and they have no economic gains.”

Your point was that their economy didn't suffer but you are WRONG. Read the story
 
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