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Helping the poor[W:748]

Re: Helping the poor

Non sequiturs are usually considered fallacies. Did you run out of logic and reason, and resort to fallacy, as if by custom and habit until it becomes indistinguishable from morals, if not ethics?

one word vocabulary........fallacy

and no position to stand on.

and nothing to back up any statements you make.
 
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one word vocabulary........fallacy

and no position to stand on.

and nothing to back up any statements you make.

Yes, I am practicing recognizing them wherever they may be found.

Did you know, for example, that simply claiming what you do without a valid argument to substantiate your currently unsubstantiated opinion, is usually called an Appeal to Ignorance.
 
Re: Helping the poor

Yes, I am practicing recognizing them wherever they may be found.

Did you know, for example, that simply claiming what you do without a valid argument to substantiate your currently unsubstantiated opinion, is usually called an Appeal to Ignorance.

everyone who you speak to on forum should be issued a bottle of aspirin, for the pain you inflict:doh
 
Re: Helping the poor

You've given me nothing but left wing loon buzzwords - I don't need to defend against that.
I didn't say you did, you do need to show how giving the poor temporary food assistance is "repressive" to the poor.

It would help if you knew what the word hypocrisy meant.
You have failed to show that I don't.

I suppose when your argument fails, the thing to do is to go back to more off topic nonsense.



It's repression and dependency yes. Perhaps educating yourself on the facts would help replace your buzz words with something to actually discuss. Work on that and get back to me.
For like the fourth time you have failed to support your argument.

Repeating a falsehood doesn't make it so, that is unless one believes in reich-wing idiotic pablum.
 
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I didn't say you did,
Swell.

You have failed to show that I don't.
I have no interest in doing so.


I suppose when your argument fails, the thing to do is to go back to more off topic nonsense.

You're driving the car off the rails, I'm just along for the ride.


For like the fourth time you have failed to support your argument.
Probably because I'm not arguing. I'm stating. You haven't given me anything to argue about except buzz words. That's not an argument or even a basis of a misunderstanding - that's just you emotively screaming at your keyboard.


Repeating a falsehood doesn't make it so, that is unless one believes in reich-wing idiotic pablum.

No no... I need "jingoism" or "racist" for buzz word bingo. I've already got "reich-wing" and "pablum".
 
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Swell.

I have no interest in doing so.
Then why did you bring it up? FFS!




You're driving the car off the rails, I'm just along for the ride.
The derailing was your hypocritical off topic bs....and even now when on topic, you can't defend your position about the repression of the poor by temporary food assistance.


Probably because I'm not arguing. I'm stating.
Uh, you are stating YOUR argument that temporary assistance is repressive to the poor......but you cannot come up with anything to back the argument.

Hint: this place is called "debate politics".....where you debate a political belief. Maybe you need to find a place called "off topic nonsense", that seems more up your alley.


You haven't given me anything to argue about except buzz words. That's not an argument or even a basis of a misunderstanding - that's just you emotively screaming at your keyboard.
If all you can do is to argue about adjectives describing your pathetic argument.... while being unable to defend a political belief......well there you are.




No no... I need "jingoism" or "racist" for buzz word bingo. I've already got "reich-wing" and "pablum".
No, what you need to do is to defend the reich-wing screed that "temporary food assistance is repressive for the poor".

If you can't, then you are just parroting reich-wing screed while holding to baseless fantasies.
 
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Then why did you bring it up? FFS!
You brought up the buzz words. Did you forget?

The derailing was your hypocritical off topic bs....and even now when on topic, you can't defend your position about the repression of the poor by temporary food assistance.
Nothing to defend.

Uh, you are stating YOUR argument that temporary assistance is repressive to the poor......but you cannot come up with anything to back the argument.
Oh you want links? Sure... have at it.

Democrats
Dems & dependency | New York Post
Progressives and the Growing Dependency Agenda | RealClearPolitics
DEMOCRATS URGED TO REASSESS IMPACT OF PUBLIC WELFARE PROGRAMS - NYTimes.com

:coffeepap:


Hint: this place is called "debate politics".....where you debate a political belief. Maybe you need to find a place called "off topic nonsense", that seems more up your alley.
If you'd provide a post that's worth debating, I'd be happy to oblige.


If all you can do is to argue about adjectives describing your pathetic argument.... while being unable to defend a political belief......well there you are.
I'm not arguing. You seem to with yourself though.


No, what you need to do is to defend the reich-wing screed that "temporary food assistance is repressive for the poor".

If you can't, then you are just parroting reich-wing screed while holding to baseless fantasies.

"jingoism" and "racist"... "parroting" I don't have on my card.
 
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You brought up the buzz words. Did you forget?
You are so confused.....you were upset that I showed your hypocrisy in coming to a thread, spouting off topic nonsense about another posters comment......when you had reported me for doing so less than a month ago.

Try keeping track of the two different subjects under discussion, Mr irony.

Nothing to defend.
Nothing to defend? Then why in the following response are you posting links to defend your argument? Is your right hand unaware of what your left hand is doing?

Oh you want links? Sure... have at it.
No, I did not ask for links on "dependency" (especially not opinion from G Will or decades old articles from the NYT), I asked you to show how your argument that "temp food assistance to the poor is repressive for the poor"




If you'd provide a post that's worth debating, I'd be happy to oblige.


I'm not arguing. You seem to with yourself though.
There you go again, first you say you have nothing to defend, then you post links you think speak for you, then you say you don't have an argument...again.

boing boing boing.




"jingoism" and "racist"... "parroting" I don't have on my card.
You don't have the ability to remember 2 separate arguments.....or realize that you are participating in those argument.......while allowing yourself to be overwhelmed still by adjectives!

So sad.
 
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You are so confused.....you were upset that I showed your hypocrisy in coming to a thread, spouting of topic nonsense about another posters comment......when you had reported me for doing so less than a month ago.

Try keeping track of the two different subjects under discussion, Mr irony.
Nothing you say makes me upset - the direct opposite. I view your posts the same way I watch monkeys at a zoo pick bugs off each other and fling their poo.

Nothing to defend? Then why in the following response are you posting links to defend your argument? Is your right hand unaware of what your left hand is doing?
In order to defend something I need a rational and logical thought in one of your posts.... I'm patiently waiting for that to happen one day.


No, I did not ask for links on "dependency" (especially not opinion from G Will or decades old articles from the NYT), I asked you to show how your argument that "temp food assistance to the poor is repressive for the poor"
Your answer is right in the links.


There you go again, first you say you have nothing to defend, then you post links you think speak for you, then you say you don't have an argument...again.

boing boing boing.
I figure I'll keep repeating it, hoping a pavlovian response will kick in on your part.


You don't have the ability to remember 2 separate arguments.....or realize that you are participating in those argument.......while allowing yourself to be overwhelmed still by adjectives!

So sad.

As I've said, you've provided nothing for me to argue about. :popcorn2:
 
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Nothing you say makes me upset - the direct opposite. I view your posts the same way I watch monkeys at a zoo pick bugs off each other and fling their poo.
LOL....anyone who spends their time doing that at the zoo REALLY needs something more in their life.

How sad!

In order to defend something I need a rational and logical thought in one of your posts.... I'm patiently waiting for that to happen one day.
LOL....you need to rationalize YOUR OWN argument......which you tried by linking to opinion pieces.....but you cannot, in your own words say how they back your claim.

Hint: It is still your argument you are trying (and still failing) to defend.


Your answer is right in the links.
LOL.....so you think. To bad you can't state them.


I figure I'll keep repeating it, hoping a pavlovian response will kick in on your part.
The only thing that your jumping from contradiction to contradiction will do is to further show just how pathetic your argument is.




As I've said, you've provided nothing for me to argue about.
Uh, I know you are SERIOUSLY confused about what you have to defend, you don't have to keep proving it.
 
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LOL....anyone who spends their time doing that at the zoo REALLY needs something more in their life.

How sad!
New word for you to learn: Metaphor.

LOL....you need to rationalize YOUR OWN argument......which you tried by linking to opinion pieces.....but you cannot, in your own words say how they back your claim.

Hint: I is still your argument you are trying (and still failing) to defend.
I don't have an argument or a claim.

LOL.....so you think. To bad you can't state them.
Those who use "LOL" a bunch of times in a row usually indicates they have lost and are going down in a ball of flames.

The only thing that your jumping from contradiction to contradiction will do do is to further show just how pathetic your argument is.
Once again, I am not arguing.

Uh, I know you SERIOUSLY confused about what you have to defend, you don't have to keep proving it.

Would it kill you to just use "jingoism" in the next post? I'd realllly appreciate it.
 
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New word for you to learn: Metaphor.
Actually, it might be an analogy, but you made the mistake of stating that you do in fact watch monkeys do everything you described at the zoo. Your out would have been to include the word "might"....but you didn't

So sad.

I don't have an argument or a claim.
I agree, your argument is so indefensible that it utterly fails.....making it a non-argument.

Those who use "LOL" a bunch of times in a row usually indicates they have lost and are going down in a ball of flames.
Or, in this case, it expresses the comedy of your total failure to defend your "point", your "argument".

Once again, I am not arguing.
I already agreed since it failed after you tried to defend it.



Would it kill you to just use "jingoism" in the next post? I'd realllly appreciate it.
Why, do you need help understanding that term too?
 
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Actually, it would might be an analogy, but you made the mistake of stating that you do in fact watch monkeys do everything you described at the zoo. Your out would have been to include the word "might"....but you didn't

So sad.
I thought of using analogy and decided against it as too complex of a word to bring to you at this time.

I agree, your argument is so indefensible that it utterly fails.....making it a non-argument.
There is no failure as I'm not arguing.

Or, in this case, it expresses the comedy of your total failure to defend your "point", your "argument".
Which point would that be then?

I already agreed since it failed after you tried to defend it.
There is no failure as there is no argument.


Why, do you need help understanding that term too?

Just need you to type it.
 
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I thought of using analogy and decided against it as too complex of a word to bring to you at this time.
This is coming from the poster that insists " Temporary food assistance is repressive to the poor" is not an argument.

There is no failure as I'm not arguing.
Again, I agree, you have abandoned your argument.....since it is indefensible. You tried by bringing opinion from George Will.....but since then you have given up.

Which point would that be then?
The one you say you are not arguing.

There is no failure as there is no argument.
Failure is to begin and then give up without success......which is what you have here on multiple levels.




Just need you to type it.
Then you are unsure of the spelling?
 
Re: Helping the poor

This is coming from the poster that insists " Temporary food assistance is repressive to the poor" is not an argument.

Again, I agree, you have abandoned your argument.....since it is indefensible. You tried by bringing opinion from George Will.....but since then you have given up.

The one you say you are not arguing.

Failure is to begin and then give up without success......which is what you have here on multiple levels.




Then you are unsure of the spelling?

Other than repetition do you have anything further to add? I'm getting bored and the poo flinging is losing it's luster.
 
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Other than repetition do you have anything further to add? I'm getting bored and the poo flinging is losing it's luster.
I have no idea why you keep quoting me while failing to defend your " Temporary food assistance is repressive to the poor" argument.
 
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everyone who you speak to on forum should be issued a bottle of aspirin, for the pain you inflict:doh

Sorry about that; want to take a few asprin and try again, later?

Moderator's Warning:
You two need to stop this. Stick to the topic, which is not each other. Which also goes for everyone else in the thread. Stop the baiting and personal comments.
 
Re: Helping the poor

I have no idea why you keep quoting me while failing to defend your " Temporary food assistance is repressive to the poor" argument.

Assuming you're talking about the current welfare system, it actually is quite damaging to those in poverty. It does not do a very good job at allowing economic mobility.
 
Re: Helping the poor

Assuming you're talking about the current welfare system, it actually is quite damaging to those in poverty. It does not do a very good job at allowing economic mobility.
You don't have to assume anything, just go back and review what I wrote, then defend to hearts content your argument.....that is unless like others here, you cannot.
 
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