If you'er a child, it's a right that your parents provide you with proper medical care.
In adulthood, it's your responsibility to find a way to fund your own medical care.
For the lesser among us (aka, disabled) it should be a privilege, provided at tax payer expense.
I think that's actually something that a lot of liberals, not all though, have in mind when it comes to health care: the government has a responsibility to provide it for its citizens much in the same way some people think it has a responsibility to provide defense and education among other things.TPD, you raise an interesting point. When I mentioned "responsibility", I was thinking of the responsibilities of the person, but I certainly left the interpretation wide open and you, very validly, spoke about what you believe to be the responsibilities of the government. Honestly, that was not a perspective I even considered.
I said absolutely nothing even close to that in the post you just responded to. Congratulations.So you do not believe you have a right to private property and you do believe that plunder should be a way of life. You are just confused over whether you should have to do the plundering yourself or have the government to it on your behalf.
Got it.
in a perfect world, healthcare is a responsibility that all people take seriously.
but unfortunately, in the real-world...many folks don't take this responsibility seriously, until their lives depend on it.
....and then they are up ****'s creek.
which gives society the choice of letting them die....or treating them even though they can't afford it by any means.
so of course, we heal the sick...regardless of their ability to pay. and then we ALL share the cost.
so unless we are gonna let folks simply die on the street, everyone should have adequate health insurance.
either we require folks to buy it & we help them do this..or we fund it for all through taxes.
you make a sound point
but once your healthcare is the financial responsibility of others, those others should be given far more say in how you live your life. Thus, those who are dependent on government (i.e. us taxpayers) for healthcare should be subjected to certain rules such as no smoking, no narcotics and weight limits. Don't like the rules-then you die on the streets and I have no problem with that
people who impose costs on the rest of us should be limited in how many costs they can impose on us
or just require everyone has health-insurance, so no more costs are imposed on the public.
how are you going to make irresponsible people do that?
fine them. every year that they don't buy health insurance.
so we can fine them for being fat, stoned or screwing like crazed ferrets
no, we can't fine people for being horny. that's just silly.
spawning offspring we have to pay for on the other hand........
we have to buy them food, shelter, clothes?
no we don't.
I think if you are on the public dole and you breed you should be severely fined or have your benefits cut...
I find the bolded portion disappointing and rather offensive. The challenges facing life as a disabled individual are enormous. They can't do what others take for granted, and they usually display immense courage in the face of adversity to push themselves to their personal limits. To call them "the lesser among us" diminishes them as human beings.
No it doesn't.
People, specifically those that were born with disabilities, didn't ask to be this way, it's a product of random nature, that they don't have all the faculties of a human born without a disability.
It's rather a statement of fact, that they tend to be the lesser among us, but my personal beliefs hold me to support them for this fault of nature.
That's real unfairness, it's not made up.
Something the current health care bill never addressed is how the government of the U.S.A. puts limits on the life of those who are disabled.
All the while, everyone else whines about expensive premiums and having to pay for birth control.
And none of us chose for them to have disabilities either. How does them not choosing to have the disability make the rest of society responsible for their misfortune?
My beliefs hold me to support them also. My beliefs also hold me not to compel another to do so.
Because there is some balance between no government aid and a lot of government aid.
I disagree with able bodied individuals getting aid, it really makes no sense, but people born disabled were not started on the level playing ground, the rest of us are.
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