Headlines that are misleading

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It is clear you can't answer my question because what you and Goof did was make a sweeping statement with zero evidence.

Meanwhile I just destroyed your credibility since you are willing to ignore the well documents IPCC modeling failures, which I mention one of. There are other failures as well, you will just sweep it under the rug and go on with your ignorance, which is what warmists now does everyday. I don't think you even know what this failure is at all, although I mentioned this Per Decade warming rate failure, which should have been enough hint to work with.


In another forum, I laid it all out the obvious Per Decade failures, they for a few weeks ignored it, now one decided to flat out lie without actually addressing what the IPCC published on the matter. I didn't stop listening, I actually QUOTE from the IPCC report itself to show the failures, what is YOUR excuse for having no knowledge about the long known Projection failures, that were published in the IPCC report?

You're not making very much sense. Are you actually able to read my posts?

 

[Sunsettommy]

You're not making very much sense. Are you actually able to read my posts?

:lamo

You STILL fail to answer the question!

You need to stop since the world is watching YOU never answer the question despite being asked 4 times now.

 

[Threegoofs]

:lamo

You STILL fail to answer the question!

You need to stop since the world is watching YOU never answer the question despite being asked 4 times now.

It’s been addressed.

It’s here.

http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter11_FINAL.pdf


You’ve been shown to be laughably wrong. Again.

But you did manage to avoid the point and not notice that all you deniers are denying the basic findings of the IPCC. You’ll find them in the Executive Summary, which I’ve posted before.

I find it hilarious that all these deniers here are telling us they dont deny science and the IPCC is wrong.... but they never seem to have read the IPCC.

 

[Jack Hays]

[h=1]Met Office and the BBC Spin May 2018 as ‘Hottest Since Records Began’[/h]Posted on 02 Jun 18 by JAIME JESSOP • 28 Comments
The Met Office tweeted this yesterday: Spring started very cold

but ended with provisionally one of the warmest and sunniest May's on record

Our latest seasonal summary has all the high's and low's of Spring 2018 – https://t.co/2U0tLTZU64 — Met Office (@metoffice) June 1, 2018 The BBC quickly jumped on the warmist good … Continue reading →

 

[Jack Hays]

[h=1]Scientific Authority and Political Myth[/h]Posted on 01 Jun 18 by PAUL MATTHEWS • 8 Comments
Roger Pielke gave a wide-ranging talk a couple of days ago at a meeting in Lyon, on “Scientific Authority and Political Myth”. His 72 slides are all available here. He also gave an overview of the talk on twitter, where he said that the question he is considering is “what should we (the highly … Co

 

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Yet another misleading headline.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/72e27c80-d9e4-33dc-949b-a65fb8d18721/rising-seas-are-threatening.html

Rising seas are threatening historical sites around the world

The article then goes on to say how the moai (big statues) of Easter Island are threatened
by sea level rise.
The problem with the story is that while global sea levels may be raising a bit,
Easter Island has almost no sea level rise.
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?id=810-003
0.06 millimeters/year

 

[Threegoofs]

Yet another misleading headline.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/72e27c80-d9e4-33dc-949b-a65fb8d18721/rising-seas-are-threatening.html

The article then goes on to say how the moai (big statues) of Easter Island are threatened
by sea level rise.
The problem with the story is that while global sea levels may be raising a bit,
Easter Island has almost no sea level rise.
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?id=810-003
0.06 millimeters/year

As always, its impressive that you know more than the people who study this for a living and contributed to the UNESCO report.

http://whc.unesco.org/document/139944

Must be a conspiracy, eh?

I’ll note that the concept here is that rising seas *will* threaten Easter Island in the future, and this is manifest already by some coastal erosion.

Seas are going to rise. It’s a fact. Thank god UNESCO is concerned and preparing for it, rather than sticking their heads in the sand and prattling on about imaginary scenarios where oil hits $90/bbl and we will magically make oil out of air.

 

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As always, its impressive that you know more than the people who study this for a living and contributed to the UNESCO report.

http://whc.unesco.org/document/139944

Must be a conspiracy, eh?

I’ll note that the concept here is that rising seas *will* threaten Easter Island in the future, and this is manifest already by some coastal erosion.

Seas are going to rise. It’s a fact. Thank god UNESCO is concerned and preparing for it, rather than sticking their heads in the sand and prattling on about imaginary scenarios where oil hits $90/bbl and we will magically make oil out of air.

So When will the sea level rise at Easter Island?
The Current rate as reported by NOAA is .02 feet per century, or .25 inches per century,
is not really a sea level rise at all, if anything it must be one of the most inactive sea level change areas
on the planet.

 

[KLATTU]

Yet another misleading headline.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/72e27c80-d9e4-33dc-949b-a65fb8d18721/rising-seas-are-threatening.html

The article then goes on to say how the moai (big statues) of Easter Island are threatened
by sea level rise.
The problem with the story is that while global sea levels may be raising a bit,
Easter Island has almost no sea level rise.
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?id=810-003
0.06 millimeters/year

As was posted on another thread, if they would just back of the crazy talk , the AGW alarmist crowd might make some headway.

 

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As was posted on another thread, if they would just back of the crazy talk , the AGW alarmist crowd might make some headway.

Every day some new story, most even more unbelievable that the last.

 

[KLATTU]

Yet another misleading headline.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/72e27c80-d9e4-33dc-949b-a65fb8d18721/rising-seas-are-threatening.html

The article then goes on to say how the moai (big statues) of Easter Island are threatened
by sea level rise.ar

As I've brilliantly and famously stated before, being a liberal elite requires that you pretend to lose sleep over oh so many things.
Syrian refugess, Mexican immigrants, Walmart workers, Puerto Rican hurricane victims, Trump becoming a fascist dictator...the list goes on and on.

To that we can add statues that 99.999999 % of the world will never see except on UFO documentaries on TV.

 

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As I've brilliantly and famously stated before, being a liberal elite requires that you pretend to lose sleep over oh so many things.
Syrian refugess, Mexican immigrants, Walmart workers, Puerto Rican hurricane victims, Trump becoming a fascist dictator...the list goes on and on.

To that we can add statues that 99.999999 % of the world will never see except on UFO documentaries on TV.

It is the liberal man's burden. (would it be more politically correct to say the liberal person's burden?)

 

[Into the Night]

So When will the sea level rise at Easter Island?
The Current rate as reported by NOAA is .02 feet per century, or .25 inches per century,
is not really a sea level rise at all, if anything it must be one of the most inactive sea level change areas
on the planet.

It's not possible to measure the global sea level. There is no reference point. Land moves, you see.

 

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It's not possible to measure the global sea level. There is no reference point. Land moves, you see.

I believe you, but am showing how ridiculous the story about Easter Island is, with their own numbers.

 

[Threegoofs]

So When will the sea level rise at Easter Island?
The Current rate as reported by NOAA is .02 feet per century, or .25 inches per century,
is not really a sea level rise at all, if anything it must be one of the most inactive sea level change areas
on the planet.

JFC.... you have said this a hundred times, and you still can’t grasp that the expected sea level rise is much greater than the current rate.

 

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JFC.... you have said this a hundred times, and you still can’t grasp that the expected sea level rise is much greater than the current rate.

So when do you expect the rate of sea level rise to change at Easter Island, or anywhere else for that matter?
To hit the IPCC's 1 meter target by 2100, things have to start happening at some point.

 

[Threegoofs]

So when do you expect the rate of sea level rise to change at Easter Island, or anywhere else for that matter?
To hit the IPCC's 1 meter target by 2100, things have to start happening at some point.

I expect it in the next 80 years, because the experts in the field are fairly certain about it.


You don’t expect it because...you read a blog once.

 

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I expect it in the next 80 years, because the experts in the field are fairly certain about it.


You don’t expect it because...you read a blog once.

Actually I don't expect it because experts like Axel Mörmer say it is all just noise,
and that the rate of the rise has not changed even though we have seen more than half
of the forcing effect for doubling the CO2 level.
Even if the latency between the temperature and the increase in the rate of the rise were a century,
we should see some of the pre 1940 warming showing up in the rate of rise by now.

 

[Threegoofs]

Actually I don't expect it because experts like Axel Mörmer say it is all just noise,
and that the rate of the rise has not changed even though we have seen more than half
of the forcing effect for doubling the CO2 level.
Even if the latency between the temperature and the increase in the rate of the rise were a century,
we should see some of the pre 1940 warming showing up in the rate of rise by now.

LOL. Had to look the guy up.

Looks like another retired crank. You guys just love those old people who aren’t actually doing any science anymore, dontcha.

The best part of looking him up was this section on his Wikipedia entry. He’s into dowsing.


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Dowsing

In 1995, Mörner gave several courses in dowsing at Stockholm University in the summer program, and also outside of the university. [2] He claimed that dowsing could be used not only to find water, but also to discover Curry and Hartmann lines. When reported in the press, he received sharp criticism from the Swedish scientific community and the Swedish skepticism movement. [3] Mörner persisted[4] and the conflict escalated[5], leading to a formal ban from the president of the university to teach dowsing, citing the Law on Higher Education, until he could present scientific evidence for dowsing. In the summer of 1996 Mörner held a symposium at the university where he presented what he considered to be supporting evidence for his teachings. A committee appointed by the university dismissed Mörner's claims in december 1996.[6] He was named "Confuser of the Year" for 1995 by Vetenskap och Folkbildning[7], a Swedish organisation in support of the broadening the understanding of the scientific method. The renowned American skepticist James Randi offered him a reward of USD971000 if Mörner could show that dowsing worked in a scientifically controlled experiment. Mörner later rejected the offer. [8] As late as 2002 Mörner reaffirmed his stance in a documentary on Swedish television. [9]

 

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LOL. Had to look the guy up.

Looks like another retired crank. You guys just love those old people who aren’t actually doing any science anymore, dontcha.

The best part of looking him up was this section on his Wikipedia entry. He’s into dowsing.


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Dowsing

In 1995, Mörner gave several courses in dowsing at Stockholm University in the summer program, and also outside of the university. [2] He claimed that dowsing could be used not only to find water, but also to discover Curry and Hartmann lines. When reported in the press, he received sharp criticism from the Swedish scientific community and the Swedish skepticism movement. [3] Mörner persisted[4] and the conflict escalated[5], leading to a formal ban from the president of the university to teach dowsing, citing the Law on Higher Education, until he could present scientific evidence for dowsing. In the summer of 1996 Mörner held a symposium at the university where he presented what he considered to be supporting evidence for his teachings. A committee appointed by the university dismissed Mörner's claims in december 1996.[6] He was named "Confuser of the Year" for 1995 by Vetenskap och Folkbildning[7], a Swedish organisation in support of the broadening the understanding of the scientific method. The renowned American skepticist James Randi offered him a reward of USD971000 if Mörner could show that dowsing worked in a scientifically controlled experiment. Mörner later rejected the offer. [8] As late as 2002 Mörner reaffirmed his stance in a documentary on Swedish television. [9]

Why am I not surprised you left off his real work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils-Axel_Mörner

Nils-Axel Mörner (born 1938) is the former head of the paleogeophysics and geodynamics department at Stockholm University. He retired in 2005.[1] He was president of the International Union for Quaternary Research (INQUA) Commission on Neotectonics (1981–1989). He headed the INTAS (International Association for the promotion of cooperation with scientists from the New Independent States of the former Soviet Union) Project on Geomagnetism and Climate (1997–2003). He is a critic of the IPCC and the notion that the global sea level is rising.

 

[Into the Night]

JFC.... you have said this a hundred times, and you still can’t grasp that the expected sea level rise is much greater than the current rate.

What sea level rise? It's not possible to measure a global sea level.

 

[Threegoofs]

What sea level rise? It's not possible to measure a global sea level.

Thanks for the insight.

 

[KLATTU]

What sea level rise? It's not possible to measure a global sea level.

It's extremely hard to measure accurately. That's why us normies ( normal people) are skeptical of any sea level predictions


"...you can see that getting an accurate reading (for example, down to the millimeter level) is extremely difficult. Satellites are now used as well, but they suffer from many of the same problems. Scientists do the best they can, using extremely long time spans, to try to figure out what the sea level is and whether or not it is rising. The general consensus seems to be that the oceans rise about 2 millimeters per year (although the last link below has an interesting discussion on that consensus...)."
https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/oceanography/question356.htm

 

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Here is a fun one,
https://www.upi.com/Science_News/20...threat-than-warming-study-says/1991528807303/

Broadly speaking, more CO2 translates to higher temperatures, but the relationship between atmosphere
and climate is complex, and scientists say there are scenarios in which warming could be limited to 1.5 degrees,
despite a sizable increase in atmospheric CO2.

So no CO2 is not going to cause much warming, but,

New climate models developed by researchers at the University of Bristol and the University of Oxford
suggest CO2 levels, not global temperatures, are a better predictor of the most damaging consequences of climate change.

So it is not going to be the warmer temperatures but the bad weather caused from the added CO2.

To me they are seeing the temperature horse getting tired, and are attempting to switch horses.

 

[Threegoofs]

Here is a fun one,
https://www.upi.com/Science_News/20...threat-than-warming-study-says/1991528807303/

So no CO2 is not going to cause much warming, but,

So it is not going to be the warmer temperatures but the bad weather caused from the added CO2.

To me they are seeing the temperature horse getting tired, and are attempting to switch horses.

In other words, they are in on the conspiracy. :roll: