?Don?t be deluded?: Israeli PM flies in face of intl welcome for Iran's new dawn ? RT News
But if it was just him and his country then the world would be allowed to move forward and explore a peaceful solution to the Iran question. But no, what he says is what goes in the US and that's guaranteed by the powerful Zionist lobbies. Indeed, if any politician should buck his position then that politician will never be re-elected.
Will it ever be time for a position of fairness toward the Palestinian people. Will they ever be overruled by forces for peace and fairness?
The Israelis aren't stupid - a moderate cleric elected to a figurehead position in a theocracy is not exactly a "new dawn" in Irani governance. The guy's had what, two/three days in office and already you want to start beating down on the Israelis as if Gandhi and MLK took over in Iran. Let's see some tangible changes in Iran in the next year - for starters, let's see them put a hold on nuclear power development - then we can start talking peace. I'll believe it when I see it.
And how kneejerk was that? When a new leader with a rather favourable background, from most reports, comes on the scene the most reasonable thing to do would to give him the benefit of the doubt. That sort of attitude could pay dividends and in fact be useful for the new leader in knowing that he has the support of the world to continue as a moderate. It also sends a clear message to others in Iran who are 'not' moderates.
But this issue is much more than that. This is about Netanyahu's and the Zionist's fear that a policy of fairness could catch hold in the ME and Israel will have to fall into line with it. But of course, Israel can't continue to expand it's territory into Arab lands if it doesn't have the backing of the US for it's regime of apartheid. And so, peace with Iran would be in the very worst interests of Israel. Indeed, peace with Syria was very possible and the process had started before Israel interfered and ensured that the process was destroyed.
As a sidenote. Most of US support for Israel appears to be based on religious superstitions and 'the promised land' fairy tale. When that starts to fade away to any appreciable amount then it's likely that support for Israel will lessen along with it. There is no other reason why Americans, and indeed some Christian Canadians would support a regime that is the primary cause of revenge attacks against America.
Judging from the lack of comments to this thread, there aren't many Americans who understand that yet. Or perhaps more to the truth, are just not ready to state it openly. And so, little will change in America. This is the big picture. This is the forest that can't be seen because of the trees.
Considering your clear bias, I'm not surprised there isn't much activity on this thread. Funny that you want the Israelis to give an Iranian cleric the benefit of the doubt when the announced state policy of Iran vis-a-vis Israel continues to be that stated by the former Iranian President, that being "the annihilation of the zionist state". How about this moderate cleric coming out and stating without reservation that "the annihilation of the zionist state" is no longer the stated goal of the Irani leadership? Maybe then you might get some benefit of the doubt accruing to them.
"If you shut up truth and bury it underground, it will but grow, and gather to itself such explosive power that the day it bursts through it will blow up everything in its way." - Emile Zola
Sorry - you're confused - I'm not the one with an agenda here.
Good gawd.
This new "president" answers entirely to the Ayatollah and militant Islamic faction in charge. He's got as much power as the Pillsbury doughboy.
?Don?t be deluded?: Israeli PM flies in face of intl welcome for Iran's new dawn ? RT News
But if it was just him and his country then the world would be allowed to move forward and explore a peaceful solution to the Iran question. But no, what he says is what goes in the US and that's guaranteed by the powerful Zionist lobbies. Indeed, if any politician should buck his position then that politician will never be re-elected.
Will it ever be time for a position of fairness toward the Palestinian people. Will they ever be overruled by forces for peace and fairness?
Will the Palestinians, Arabs, and Iranians ever agree to peaceful relations with a Jewish state? Has Iran announced that it is dropping support for Hezbollah?
I think we should just send McCain in ... he's ready to go ...
Well, at least you have tried to take us back to the preliminary argument that sides with Israel. You assert that it's not Israel's fault but is the Arabs' fault. And that's something that can be analyzed and argued in detail if Americans want to have their feet held to the fire.
You see, we could begin with the simple fact that peace with Syria could have been had if the Zionists didn't do everything in their power to destroy the process.
Or would you like to go right back to the wrong submissions that Israel is a tiny defencless puppy in the midst of giant powerful Arab nations.
Wherever you choose to go with this, you need to keep in mind the real issue and that is that support for Israel and it's apartheid regime is the biggest cause of nearly all of America's problems.
If you're a libertarian as you are declaring, I hold out hope that you will be able to take a credible approach to this issue. Let's stay away from the sort of behaviour we've been seeing so far.
Well, at least you have tried to take us back to the preliminary argument that sides with Israel. You assert that it's not Israel's fault but is the Arabs' fault. And that's something that can be analyzed and argued in detail if Americans want to have their feet held to the fire.
You see, we could begin with the simple fact that peace with Syria could have been had if the Zionists didn't do everything in their power to destroy the process.
Or would you like to go right back to the wrong submissions that Israel is a tiny defencless puppy in the midst of giant powerful Arab nations.
Wherever you choose to go with this, you need to keep in mind the real issue and that is that support for Israel and it's apartheid regime is the biggest cause of nearly all of America's problems.
If you're a libertarian as you are declaring, I hold out hope that you will be able to take a credible approach to this issue. Let's stay away from the sort of behaviour we've been seeing so far.
Oh, and by the way: Zionism is the National Liberation Movement of the Jewish People.
Well isn't that an exciting rebuttal of what I said!
Can it get any better?
Yeah, it could, if only you addressed al-Assad Sr's refusal to accept return of the Golan in exchange for peace.
There's nowhere I won't go with this discussion, other than foolish oneliners that waste my time as well as the time of others. If you wish to get into some detail with that then go right ahead.
But don't you think it's a bit of a copout from discussing the immediate issues? I mean, how far back do you think we can go with placing blame. And then, when we're both happy with placing blame, does it change the situation on the ground in which Americans are putting themselves at ever increasing risk to ongoing future revenge attacks fraom aggrieved people of the ME?
Act like a libertarian as you claim to be and stop trying to avoid the truth.
No dispute is 100% one-sided, and the Arab-Israeli conflict is no exception. I would never claim that Israel is blameless or that the Arabs have no grievances. Having said that, however, I regard it indisputable that the conflict can be settled if and when the various Arab groups actually reconcile themselves to a Jewish state within their midst. Until that day, nada.
And I submit that has already happened. Why not start by using the quote from Ahmadinejad but before you do take the time to find out what he really said. I would also remind you that Israel remains in violation of numerous UN resolutions and especially most damning, it's insistence to continue to occupy Palestinian lands and to further illegal expansion.
While this dispute has not always been one-sided, it is now. Israel is completely and totally to blame with the ongoing problems. But you have to also understand that Israel has definite plans for further expansion of it's lands at the expense of the Palestinian people. And soon it will stretch further.
So let's talk solutions because that's what is in your best interests. Do you agree with what your Ron Paul has stated on the issues of the ME and America's policies?
One cannot argue in good faith that anyone in the Arab world outside of the Egyptians and the Jordanians has done any such thing. And, guess what, Israel signed peace treaties with them. Your claim that the Iranian regime accepts Israel's existence is preposterous.
The Israelis aren't stupid - a moderate cleric elected to a figurehead position in a theocracy is not exactly a "new dawn" in Irani governance. The guy's had what, two/three days in office and already you want to start beating down on the Israelis as if Gandhi and MLK took over in Iran. Let's see some tangible changes in Iran in the next year - for starters, let's see them put a hold on nuclear power development - then we can start talking peace. I'll believe it when I see it.
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