Hate Filled Limbaugh Accuses Fox of Acting in Ad

[aps]

You realize your opinion of what Limbaugh said is just opinion. But I still love ya girly:2wave:

It's statements like this that make it impossible for me to be angry with you. The feeling is mutual! I love that we can be rough with each other, but still maintain the love.

 

[Stinger]

Why not discuss the substance of what Fox said without discussing his disability. I saw the footage, where he was imitating him. There is no excuse for that kind of behavior.

Because Fox willing and freely entered into to fray and if as it seems to be comfirmed one of his political ploys is to go off his medication when testifying or making commercials then we have a right to know this. Why hide what the medical and pharmaceutical industry has been able to do? It's a radio show I didn't see any footage. If he was mocking him then he should apologize. I can't find a link to any video do you have one?

AND he said if he is wrong he would apologize, has Fox issued a statement clarifying whether he did or did not lay off his medication to make his involuntary movements more severe for the purpose of the ad?

The Dems do have a habit of using victims to advance their political causes, then if anyone criticize what the victim says or how it is presented the Dems can then act outraged and chastise and never have to address the core issue.

 

[ptsdkid]

The Dems do have a habit of using victims to advance their political causes, then if anyone criticize what the victim says or how it is presented the Dems can then act outraged and chastise and never have to address the core issue.

***You made a lot of great points. But you couldn't be more on the money of how Dems use victims to advance political causes. Too bad they couldn't be all-inclusive when using Michael J. Fox, superman in a wheelchair, and starving third world children when making political points. Where were they when Terry Schivo was fighting for her life? Again, her victim role didn't fit into their political platform. Liberals have always been for euthanasia and abortion. Convenience political tools for the liberal spin of the day. Show me how condoning euthanasia and abortion/murder is having compassion for the downtrodden. It takes savvy conservatives like Stinger and myself to present the transparency of the liberal mindset.

 

[easyt65]

While anyone who decides for themselves to pick sides and step in front of a camera to promote one party over another opens themselves up to criticism and attacks,there is no excuse for Rush Limbaugh's remarks! Evry now and then he makes an astte point; however, most of the time he is a hypocrotical, self-promoting, egotistical blow-hard who is just as bad as his counterparts from the left he claims to hate! His comments were inexcuseable and an apology should be demanded of him...then again, would getting an apology from this fat b@st@rd really mean anything to you (Fox) if Rush DID decide to issue one (which I believe he will not do because he NEVER admits he is wrong about anything)!?!

I think people who are offended by him should simply do what I choose to do - NOT listen to him. I can listen to guys like Glenn Beck to get insightful commentary about what is going on without all the self-important egotistical pontificating for which Rush has become known.

 

[shuamort]

But from page 247 of Fox's book:

As Joan* and I left the corridors of power we must have looked like a pair of drunken sailors; the day’s hectic events had brought our symptoms to full boil, and both of us were a little wobbly. But something else was going on with Joan – I noticed she was fighting back tears. “Am I missing something?” I said, baffled. “I thought we did pretty well back there.”

“Oh, it was fantastic,” she said. “It’s just that it’s always been so hard to get anyine to even listen to us, never mind invite us into their offices.” She flashed me a smile. “It’s a whole new world.”

Snippets of my testimony were featured on several of the nightly news broadcasts. One line in particular from my prepared statement got a lot of play: “In my forties, I can expect challenges most people wouldn’t face until their seventies or eighties, if ever. But with your help, if we all do everything we can to eradicate this disease, when I’m in my fifties I’ll be dancing at my children’s weddings.” I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease, and the urgency we as a community were feeling, be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling.

No different than if you were lobbying for a treatment to hair loss and took off your wig to show you are bald. A wig, same as drugs in this case, are not a cure.

 

[Deegan]

But from page 247 of Fox's book:


No different than if you were lobbying for a treatment to hair loss and took off your wig to show you are bald. A wig, same as drugs in this case, are not a cure.

Well it's not o.k IMO to use your disease to make a dishonest commercial, not at all. He lied, disease or not, he said Talent was against stem cell research, that is not true, so mixing lies, with this terrible disease, the whole thing stinks to high heaven.

I would venture to say he just helped stall progress, by dividing the country as he did, shame on those who don't want to use embryo's......shame on them!

 

[Navy Pride]

I am a big fan of Boston Legal and Fox has appeared on there several times.....He looks perfectly normal and shows no effects of Parkinson.........One can only assume that he did not take his meds for that political ad and that is just wrong.....

I might add that Fox is a is a democrat partisan who campaigned for Kerry in the 2004 presidential election.....

 

[aps]

I am a big fan of Boston Legal and Fox has appeared on there several times.....He looks perfectly normal and shows no effects of Parkinson.........One can only assume that he did not take his meds for that political ad and that is just wrong.....

Well here's the answer for that, Navy Pride:

Fox has appeared in ABC's "Boston Legal" this season. In his scenes, taped over the summer, Fox does not shake or loll his head as he does in the Cardin commercial, but does appear to be restraining himself, appearing almost rigid at times.

A source with direct knowledge of Fox's illness who viewed the Cardin ad said Fox is not acting to exaggerate the effects of the disease. The source said Fox's scenes in "Boston Legal" had to be taped around his illness, as he worked to control the tremors associated with Parkinson's for limited periods of time.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15408508/

 

[shuamort]

Well it's not o.k IMO to use your disease to make a dishonest commercial, not at all. He lied, disease or not, he said Talent was against stem cell research, that is not true, so mixing lies, with this terrible disease, the whole thing stinks to high heaven.

I would venture to say he just helped stall progress, by dividing the country as he did, shame on those who don't want to use embryo's......shame on them!

Should the affects of Parkinson's be based on those who can afford the medicine or should the affects of Parkinson's be based on what the actual affects of Parkinson's are?

More importantly, did Fox state that he's suffering from Parkinson's and this is what he looks like ON medication? Or did he not address that at all? Here's the ad, now show me where he's lying.

 

[talloulou]

Well here's the answer for that, Navy Pride:

Fox has appeared in ABC's "Boston Legal" this season. In his scenes, taped over the summer, Fox does not shake or loll his head as he does in the Cardin commercial, but does appear to be restraining himself, appearing almost rigid at times.

A source with direct knowledge of Fox's illness who viewed the Cardin ad said Fox is not acting to exaggerate the effects of the disease. The source said Fox's scenes in "Boston Legal" had to be taped around his illness, as he worked to control the tremors associated with Parkinson's for limited periods of time.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15408508/

Michael J. Fox admits he doesn't take his medicine when he's trying to make a point about Parkinsons. Limbaugh suggested he was acting or off his meds. He most likely was off his meds. What's wrong with that?

Personally I think if Michael J. Fox goes off his meds to make a plea for Parkinsons there is nothing wrong with that. However I do think the commericials Fox did are misleading in that embryonic stem cell research is not illegal, it is not the promised cure he makes it out to be, and in the commercial he doesn't make it clear that the law he is talking about is a "cloning" law. That's what I don't like!

 

[shuamort]

Oops, forgot this snippet:

May, Talent finally came out against the amendment with a three-sentence statement saying that he "personally" could not support it because it would "make cloning human life at the earliest stage a constitutional right."

 

[Deegan]

Should the affects of Parkinson's be based on those who can afford the medicine or should the affects of Parkinson's be based on what the actual affects of Parkinson's are?

More importantly, did Fox state that he's suffering from Parkinson's and this is what he looks like ON medication? Or did he not address that at all? Here's the ad, now show me where he's lying.

I mention Talent, and you produce an ad against the Republican in Maryland?

He said Talent does not support stem cell research, that is a lie, now be a good boy and go find that ad.

 

[talloulou]

Here's the ad[/URL], now show me where he's lying.

He's lying because he never mentions "embryonic" first off. Second the research is not looking as promising as he keeps saying it is. Third the research is not only legal it is funded both by states and privately and the only limits Bush has placed is on federal funds. So the commercial is worded dishonestly. And it does not make it clear what exactly Bush is doing that Fox doesn't dislike. It makes it all fuzzy purposely so that the uneducated are mislead.

There are not restrictions on embryonic stem cell research. It can be privately or state funded. The only restrictions are on federal dollars.

And embryonic research is quite frankly falling flat. They have not figured out how to get the cells to not morph into cancer. So all the hype is misleading as well. To say it's the "most promising" when it currently isn't showing any promise at all is lying.

 

[Deegan]

Michael J. Fox admits he doesn't take his medicine when he's trying to make a point about Parkinsons. Limbaugh suggested he was acting or off his meds. He most likely was off his meds. What's wrong with that?

Personally I think if Michael J. Fox goes off his meds to make a plea for Parkinsons there is nothing wrong with that. However I do think the commericials Fox did are misleading in that embryonic stem cell research is not illegal, it is not the promised cure he makes it out to be, and in the commercial he doesn't make it clear that the law he is talking about is a "cloning" law. That's what I don't like!

Exactly.....shame on us for having an opinion on the subject, shame!:roll:

 

[talloulou]

One can only assume that he did not take his meds for that political ad and that is just wrong.....

It's not wrong to go off meds. He is speaking as a person with Parkinsons. There is nothing wrong with allowing his illness to show. Eventually his medicine won't work as well as it currently does. That's a fact. So if he wants to appeal to people on an emotional level there is nothing dishonest about that. Furthermore he has said that he goes off his medication for these types of things. When he is speaking as a representative for Parkinsons he allows his parkinsons to remain unhidden. There is nothing dishonest or sneaky about that.

It's like prochoicers who refuse to acknowledge abortion pictures. You have to be able to really see something and still be able to stand where you stand or the one being dishonest is you.

If I can't look at Fox with his symptoms in high gear and still disagree with him then maybe I shouldn't be disagreeing.

 

[NYStateofMind]

I mention Talent, and you produce an ad against the Republican in Maryland?

He said Talent does not support stem cell research, that is a lie, now be a good boy and go find that ad.

Actually, he says that Talent "opposes expanding stem cell research." Now, who's lying? I guess that would be you. Oh, and here's the link....I found it for you. Go watch it for yourself.

http://claireonline.com/multimedia/ads/MichaelJFox.jsp

I'd like to thank Rush for bringing this ad to national attention. I'm sure Claire is thrilled as well. :lol:

 

[Deegan]

Actually, he says that Talent "opposes expanding stem cell research." Now, who's lying? I guess that would be you. Oh, and here's the link....I found it for you. Go watch it for yourself.

http://claireonline.com/multimedia/ads/MichaelJFox.jsp

I'd like to thank Rush for bringing this ad to national attention. I'm sure Claire is thrilled as well. :lol:

It is a lie, Talent is not against expanding stem cell research, just cloning, which many are.

Go watch for yourself....

http://www.nocloning.org/video.html

 

[Vader]

Fox was referring to EMBRYONIC STEM CELL research which Talent is against. There's even a referendum in Missouri re Stem Cells which is another reason Fox did the ad.

Regardless of this how low is it to accuse a man who everyone knows has a serious disease of faking it? I think it is another bad ploy that will also backfire against the GOP. Michael J. Fox is beloved and cared for so to attack a beloved figure who has a terminal disease cannot gain the GOP more votes no matter how much backtracking Rush and his supporters will now do.

Fox is being accused of being a faker by a man who was arrested by customs agents for having somebody elses Viagra in his suitcase. Is this a hint of Limbagh's true sexual orientation? Could it be he uses a "nom de plume" (pen name) to get his perscriptions?

Either way, Rush Limbaugh's attack on Michael J. Fox was certainly unecessary, uncalled for, and totally tasteless. It was a totally shameful act of hate and and anti-Democrat bias; Limbaugh should apologize (he lacks the guts to this) to Michael J. Fox; however, we all know we will do no such thing.

I would say it's time for the GOP to find a new spokesperson; unofficial or otherwise.

:shock:

 

[NYStateofMind]

It is a lie, Talent is not against expanding stem cell research, just cloning, which many are.

Go watch for yourself....

http://www.nocloning.org/video.html

You said the following:

He is also wrong when he says, " Talent is against stem cell research" this is not true, just embronic(sp) research, not cord blood or the like.

and

he is not honest when he says Talent is against stem cell research.

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He lied, disease or not, he said Talent was against stem cell research

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He said Talent does not support stem cell research, that is a lie, now be a good boy and go find that ad.

in previous posts in this thread. That is a lie, it is not what Fox said. If you are going to insist over and over that someone said something, you need to get it right, especially when you start acting condescending toward people and tell them to find the ad "like a good boy."

Linking a commercial that doesn't have anything to do with the candidate or his position on stem cell research doesn't help your argument.

 

[talloulou]

Fox is being accused of being a faker by a man who was arrested by customs agents for having somebody elses Viagra in his suitcase. Is this a hint of Limbagh's true sexual orientation? Could it be he uses a "nom de plume" (pen name) to get his perscriptions?

Either way, Rush Limbaugh's attack on Michael J. Fox was certainly unecessary, uncalled for, and totally tasteless. It was a totally shameful act of hate and and anti-Democrat bias; Limbaugh should apologize (he lacks the guts to this) to Michael J. Fox; however, we all know we will do no such thing.

I would say it's time for the GOP to find a new spokesperson; unofficial or otherwise.

:shock:

OMG asking Rush to apologize is only slightly less ridiculous than asking someone like Ann Coulter to apologize. Why not just have South Park apologize to Sean Penn!

In any case while I disagree with Fox I think this Rush stuff is no big deal to him. He can handle it and I doubt he gives two shites what Rush says. I get that he goes off his medicine for public parkinson spots and I get why he does it. I also understand where his passion comes from and where his desire to campaign for certain folks come from. I don't agree with his stance on the subject but it is definitely not out of disrespect for him or the disease.

Besides Rush never said he was totally faking the disease....he said he was either off his meds or acting. He was off his meds presumably because he usually does go off his meds for these types of things. So it's like Rush pointed out something Fox has already admitted to very publicly so i don't see the big deal.

 

[Deegan]

You said the following:
andand and in previous posts in this thread. That is a lie, it is not what Fox said. If you are going to insist over and over that someone said something, you need to get it right, especially when you start acting condescending toward people and tell them to find the ad "like a good boy."

Linking a commercial that doesn't have anything to do with the candidate or his position on stem cell research doesn't help your argument.

He lied, I don't know how I can make this anymore clear, Talent is not against stem cell research, or expanding the research, only against cloning, and many in his state agree. My argument is this, don't lie on television, and think because you have a disease, you are beyond reproach, it won't work in my book.

Now what is your point exactly?

 

[NYStateofMind]

He lied, I don't know how I can make this anymore clear, Talent is not against stem cell research, or expanding the research, only against cloning, and many in his state agree. My argument is this, don't lie on television, and think because you have a disease, you are beyond reproach, it won't work in my book.

Now what is your point exactly?

YOU lied, it couldn't be more clear, and that is my point.

If you were not so condescending, I would let it slide, but someone needs to hold you accountable. Admit that you lied, I will let it go.

If you really want to discuss what Talent's position IS on stem cell research, you need to link to some information that shows his position. You keep making this statement that Fox lied, and I'm waiting for you to prove it. I'm not willing to take your word for it, for reasons that should be obvious from my first paragraph in this post.

 

[Deegan]

YOU lied, it couldn't be more clear, and that is my point.

If you were not so condescending, I would let it slide, but someone needs to hold you accountable. Admit that you lied, I will let it go.

If you really want to discuss what Talent's position IS on stem cell research, you need to link to some information that shows his position. You keep making this statement that Fox lied, and I'm waiting for you to prove it. I'm not willing to take your word for it, for reasons that should be obvious from my first paragraph in this post.

So you don't know, but you can say "YOU LIED" LOL, o.k, now I know where you stand. I will not let that slide, I heard the man say he is not against stem cell research, or "expanding" it, they are trying to lump cloning in with the other, and you are falling for it!:roll:

But let me go find a link to shut you up..............

 

[Deegan]

"Talent cited new science that would alter the genetic material of an embryo to prevent it from developing into a human being. A “developmentally disabled” embryo should in theory address the moral qualms of critics who view even an unfertilized egg in a petri dish as a potential person. But the reaction to Talent’s shift was blistering. Pro-life conservatives felt they’d been betrayed and threatened to abandon him at the polls, and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which helped write the Senate bill, rejected Talent’s rationale that there is “an ethically untroubling way” of getting embryonic stem cells."

Now does this sound like a man against "expanding" stem cell research, he went against his party to make this stand, I will await your apology.....:roll:

I always win sir, I may be "condesending" at times, but it's because I live in this arena, and I tire of uneducated posters!

Sorry, you probably need the link............
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11410626/site/newsweek/

 

[NYStateofMind]

So you don't know, but you can say "YOU LIED" LOL, o.k, now I know where you stand. I will not let that slide, I heard the man say he is not against stem cell research, or "expanding" it, they are trying to lump cloning in with the other, and you are falling for it!:roll:

But let me go find a link to shut you up..............

Let me spell this out for you. I said that you lied because you repeatedly claimed that Fox said something. It turns out that what you repeatedly claimed that he said was NOT what he actually said. Got it now? My point was about YOU mis-stating what was said, not about anyone's position on the issue....oh, and I felt that someone needed to address your condescending attitude.

It helps if you are right when you are trying to make someone feel small. :mrgreen: