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Harvard University President Claudine Gay resigning her post, reports say (1 Viewer)

gman said:
As usual team blue can’t accept reality when it smacks them in the face. You won nada, zero, zippo, zilch, bupkis. You lose, quit whining.
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Ironic.
 
trouble13 said:
I think Havard and her defenders along with her lack of contrition have hurt more than just Havard. They significantly damaged the credibility of their cults ideology.
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The DEI/CRT cult has seen their agenda take a beating last year. Maybe they need to reconsider some of their more extremist policies.
 
Roadvirus said:
The DEI/CRT cult has seen their agenda take a beating last year. Maybe they need to reconsider some of their more extremist policies.
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I hope they continue to double down on it and give people a good taste of what they are cooking
 
Absentglare said:
As I cited for you earlier, Harvard had her work independently reviewed and found that it did not violate Harvard’s standards.

Transparent right wing hit job. The conservatives don’t care about policing plagiarism, this is all performative bullshit and everybody knows it.
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Lol....."an independent review by distinguished political scientists and conducted a review of her published work. On December 9, the Fellows reviewed the results, which revealed a few instances of inadequate citation. While the analysis found no violation of Harvard’s standards for research misconduct, President Gay is proactively requesting four corrections in two articles to insert citations and quotation marks that were omitted from the original publications."

Translation: "Harvard investigated Harvard and determined that Harvard didn't violate any of Harvard's policies."

GTFO with that nonsense. Name the allegedly "independent" reviewers if they're truly independent instead of masking their identities. Let them stand by their work and be held up to critical review by other people who conduct research for a living instead of hiding behind anonymity....that is, if they even exist in the first place.

By the way, an "independent review," when it is performed, reports its findings independently. The place being investigated doesn't release the results, as that would violate the independent status of the review and findings.

D'OH!
 
Hello My Son said:
Lol....."an independent review by distinguished political scientists and conducted a review of her published work. On December 9, the Fellows reviewed the results, which revealed a few instances of inadequate citation. While the analysis found no violation of Harvard’s standards for research misconduct, President Gay is proactively requesting four corrections in two articles to insert citations and quotation marks that were omitted from the original publications."

Translation: "Harvard investigated Harvard and determined that Harvard didn't violate any of Harvard's policies."

GTFO with that nonsense. Name the allegedly "independent" reviewers if they're truly independent instead of masking their identities. Let them stand by their work and be held up to critical review by other people who conduct research for a living instead of hiding behind anonymity....that is, if they even exist in the first place.

By the way, an "independent review," when it is performed, reports its findings independently. The place being investigated doesn't release the results, as that would violate the independent status of the review and findings.

D'OH!
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I think it’s hilarious you attack the anonymity when the complaints were filed anonymously. Someone didn’t want the accusations to be tied directly to the GOP.

Like I said, partisan hit job.
 
Absentglare said:
I think it’s hilarious you attack the anonymity when the complaints were filed anonymously. Someone didn’t want the accusations to be tied directly to the GOP.

Like I said, partisan hit job.
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Oh yes, hilarity all around....speaking of this, I think it's hilarious that you're pretending to not know the well-established definition of "plagiarism" and that it would take a "hit-job" to bring down the president of a university for blatantly committing plagiarism over and over and over again over the course of decades.

It shows that you unconsciously don't believe that academia should have the highest level of rigor and integrity at all, even in the conduct of an Ivy League president as long as her politics match your own.

On the other hand, I have already stated in the thread that I would want any professional to be exposed and face the consequences for committing misconduct or fraud of any kind, regardless of their politics or the methodology by which they are exposed for their fraud.

For me, it's about honesty and integrity among the professional community, including my own professional peers, because I value the importance of all of us doing things the correct and honest way.

For you, it's obviously about a cultist team sport, "us vs. them" hyperpartisan political agenda. I don't think like that because I'm an ethical professional who functions on intellect, honesty, and legality rather than disingenuous emotionality.

And with that, I'm bowing out because it's obvious that you've been proven wrong over and over again in this thread by a dozen or more posters, yet you refuse to admit that you're wrong about anything, which just demonstrates on your part an unwillingness to be persuaded even when the evidence is dropped on your lap. And the fact that she resigned in disgrace rather than fighting it (because even she knew she was full of shit when all was said and done) just demonstrates even further proof that she was guilty of plagiarism/academic misconduct. If not, she would be fighting it, suing people for defamation, etc. etc. But she's not, and she won't, because it doesn't take a Harvard grad to know that she doesn't have a case.

Have a good day--and enjoy having the last word. I'm sure you're take it, and I'm sure it'll be a retread of the same recycled few things you've been stuck on for several days now.
 

Trump hosted Holocaust denier at Mar-a-Lago estate during visit with Kanye West, a week after announcing 2024 run​

November 26,2022

Former President Donald Trump hosted White nationalist and Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes and rapper Kanye West at his Mar-a-Lago estate this week, demonstrating his continued willingness to associate with figures who have well-publicized antisemitic views as he embarks on another White House run."

NatMorton said:
Both race and Jew bating in one post, well done.
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“My overriding belief…is that God is real, Jesus Christ is God, and yet the country is run by people that don’t believe this, and don’t live by this. And we’ve talked about who they are, they are largely Jewish…We’ve got to save our country, tell the truth, and have Christian leadership.”
- Nick Fuentes

“I think Jewish people that vote for a Democrat—I think it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty,”
- President Donald Trump

"Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he's a Jew." ("I did give him a book about Hitler," Marty Davis said. "But it was My New Order, Hitler's speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I'm not Jewish.")
- Donald Trump, "Vanity Fair" (1990) - first wife Ivanna stated that he would occasionally read from "Mein Kampf" and kept the copy in a cabinet next to his bed
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It must have slipped Rep (R-NY) Elise Stefanik's memory and those of her fellow Trump supporters, like "NatMorton," that the leader of their own Republican Party had chosen to host the White nationalist and Holocaust denier, Nick Fuentes, at Mar-a-Lago!

Fuentes was accompanied by the "rapper" Kanye West, who had already been widely condemned a month before (October 2022) for making a series of anti-Semitic statements, praising Adolf Hitler and denting the Holocaust!

Fuentes’ annual "America First Political Action Conference (AFPAC)" continues to attract a wide range of media personalities and conservative politicians. On February 25, 2022, in addition to usual assortment of white supremacists, the Conference also attempted to establish itself as part of the "political mainstream" by invited 4 elected politicians to serve as speakers, all Republicans:
- Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene,
- Lt. Governor Janice McGeachin,
- U.S. Rep. Paul Gosar,
- Arizona State Senator Wendy Rogers

Following his anti-Semitic statements, Adidas, Balenciaga, The Gap,Foot Locker and YJ Maxx were all quick to severe all ties with Kanye West by the end of October 2022 - bur that didn't deter the former President from hosting him and his "Holocaust-denier" friend in November 2022!



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jgarden47 said:

Trump hosted Holocaust denier at Mar-a-Lago estate during visit with Kanye West, a week after announcing 2024 run​

November 26,2022

Former President Donald Trump hosted White nationalist and Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes and rapper Kanye West at his Mar-a-Lago estate this week, demonstrating his continued willingness to associate with figures who have well-publicized antisemitic views as he embarks on another White House run."



“My overriding belief…is that God is real, Jesus Christ is God, and yet the country is run by people that don’t believe this, and don’t live by this. And we’ve talked about who they are, they are largely Jewish…We’ve got to save our country, tell the truth, and have Christian leadership.”
- Nick Fuentes

“I think Jewish people that vote for a Democrat—I think it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty,”
- President Donald Trump

"Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he's a Jew." ("I did give him a book about Hitler," Marty Davis said. "But it was My New Order, Hitler's speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I'm not Jewish.")
- Donald Trump, "Vanity Fair" (1990) - first wife Ivanna stated that he would occasionally


It must have slipped Rep (R-NY) Elise Stefanik's memory and those of her fellow Trump supporters, like "NatMorton," that the leader of their own Republican Party had chosen to host the White nationalist and Holocaust denier, Nick Fuentes, at Mar-a-Lago!

Fuentes was accompanied by the "rapper" Kanye West, who had already been condemned in October 2022 for making a series of anti-Semitic statements, praising Adolf Hitler and denting the Holocaust!

Fuentes’ annual "America First Political Action Conference (AFPAC)" continues to attract a wide range of media personalities and conservative politicians. On February 25, 2022, in addition to white supremacists, the Conference also boasted 4 elected Republicans as speakers – Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lt. Governor Janice McGeachin, U.S. Rep. Paul Gosar, and Arizona State Senator Wendy Rogers!

Following his anti-Semitic statements, Adidas, Balenciaga, The Gap,Foot Locker and YJ Maxx were all quick to severe all ties with Kanye West by the end of October 2022 - bur that didn't deter the former President from hosting him and his "Holocaust-denier" friend in November!



www.cnn.com

Trump hosted Holocaust denier at Mar-a-Lago estate during visit with Kanye West, a week after announcing 2024 run | CNN Politics

Former President Donald Trump hosted White nationalist and Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes and Kanye West at his private Mar-a-Lago estate this week, demonstrating his continued willingness to associate with fringe right-wing figures with well-publicized antisemitic views as he embarks on another...
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

en.wikipedia.org

Kanye West - Wikipedia

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What are you trying to say with that dog's breakfast of a post?
 
NatMorton said:
Are you saying you have nothing to offer in this conversation beyond race baiting?
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Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? I was responding to the poster who said it was about ethnicity. He was the race baiter
 
NatMorton said:
Yes, yes, let’s pretend all this has had nothing to do with Claudine Gay being justly exposed as a fraud and a thief.
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But yet you want a fraud and a thief and an adulterer and a pathological lying narcissist to be president
 
Bok Tuklo said:
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Meh, nearly all political outrage is manufactured. Nobody cares that much about any topic that doesn't directly affect them in their everyday life. Unless it is something that directly impacts them, they just pretend to be angry/upset/sad/passionate/etc.

Right-wingers and left-wingers do it on par with one another all the time. It's a sport to all of them.
 
Cope said:
Racial identity shouldn't hold any sway or provide any benefit, so change at will!
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That's a nice sentiment, but it's completely at odds with the reality of living as a person of color in America.
 
Irredentist said:
People of color have to stand up for other people of color. Whitey sure as hell ain't gonna do it.
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Sure, if you exclude every white guy that fought against the South in the civil war. And everyone since then that has stood up for POC. That's only several million people. Other than that, good point!
 
Irredentist said:
That's a nice sentiment, but it's completely at odds with the reality of living as a person of color in America.
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That's what they tell you anyway.

People of color have every single opportunity that any other person does, and then some.

Stay in school.
Stay away from crime.
Avoid having kids until you can afford to do so.

All the problems go away.
 
Cope said:
That's what they tell you anyway.

People of color have every single opportunity that any other person does, and then some.

Stay in school.
Stay away from crime.
Avoid having kids until you can afford to do so.

All the problems go away.
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What a naive take. You can be as straight laced as you want, it won't stop people from abusing you if they decide they don't like your race.
 
Anthony60 said:
Sure, if you exclude every white guy that fought against the South in the civil war. And everyone since then that has stood up for POC. That's only several million people. Other than that, good point!
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You can never depend on support from white people. They always have the option to give up and go back to their white lives, when the going gets tough. People of color don't have that option. We're in this fight from the day we're born until the day we die.
 
Irredentist said:
What a naive take. You can be as straight laced as you want, it won't stop people from abusing you if they decide they don't like your race.
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Discrimination is illegal.
Racism is being stamped out, at all levels that matter.

People can decide all sorts of things about you, race is but one thing to like or dislike. Hair color, eye color, how you laugh.

The important things are the things I just laid out. The black community has a choice:

They can continue whining and playing the woe is me card or they can address some of the cultural issues that plague that community in order to lift it up as a whole. That change starts from the inside.

Who else do you think is going to change it? You gonna wait on the benevolent hand of all mighty whitey?
 
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