Harvard sues the Trump administration over funding cuts (1 Viewer)

[Top Cat]

Well Harvard has some pretty good lawyers that will be taking this case pro bono just to say **** you to the oronge shit gibbon.

 

[Callen]

I saw that.

The democratically elected president has changed the terms.

...and I expect the Supreme Court will change them back given the specific demands.

 

[Athanasius68]

...and I expect the Supreme Court will change them back given the specific demands.

Why would they do that?
Harvard has no right to the money.

 

[Callen]

Why is Harvard getting any money in the first place... they are valued at over 50 Billion dollars.

The $50 B endowment Harvard had is almost exclusively private donations with specific earmarks like scholarships, certain research, building improvements , sports , etc. The University can't spend it in any way other than what was stipulated by the donor.

 

[Callen]

Why would they do that?
Harvard has no right to the money.

I beleive they will find that the demands go way beyond reasonable demands and basically amount to "extortion". Governments directing/ controlling speech, curriculum, student admissions and hiring practices will be found to be an overreach on academic independence as it should be.

 

[The AntiDonald]

I know why... the point is that they are an extremely wealthy institution.

These people need that money more.

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You can make that argument about 100 or even 1000 different groups that need the money worse than the other. The problem is that any savings accumulated by Trump's cuts go directly to the next massive billionaire and corporate tax cut. The average taxpayer will never see a dime of that money.

So, if we have two choices how that money will be spent, the logical thing to spend it on is medical research, not a bunch of rich greedy bastards. Everyone alive benefits from medical research. Even the oligarchs.

 

[Plasmaball]

Of course, he isn't.

Now...present something relevant, eh?

Oh look mycroft doesn't understand how the United States government works.
Shocking

 

[Athanasius68]

I beleive they will find that the demands go way beyond reasonable demands and basically amount to "extortion". Governments directing/ controlling speech, curriculum, student admissions and hiring practices will be found to be an overreach on academic independence as it should be.

SCOTUS ruled over 40 years (Bob Jones U) that strings could be placed on a private college receiving govt benefits.

 

[Plasmaball]

Why would they do that?
Harvard has no right to the money.

Did congress approve it? Then yeah they do

 

[Athanasius68]

Did congress approve it? Then yeah they do

They approved a lump sum, to be dispersed as the president so decides.

 

[Plasmaball]

Not at all.
The law allows the Executive to make those spending decisions.

Congress decides how to spend it.

 

[Plasmaball]

I'm sure some radical extremist left wing judge will objectively rule that Harvard is entitled to public funding and Trump has no authority to dictate how that money is spent.

Oooo another maga ( who probably doesn't live in the us) who doesn't understand how our government functions

 

[Plasmaball]

They approved a lump sum, to be dispersed as the president so decides.

Nope that's not how it works. Congress says x amount goes to here. It goes to there.

 

[Athanasius68]

Congress decides how to spend it.

Yes- they appropriated a chunk of money for science, education etc and directed the president to determine how to spend it.

That's why Harvard isn't saying that Trump has no authority to do what he is doing. They are saying how he is doing it is improper and unconstitutional.

 

[snakestretcher]

How about we stand up for the taxpayer instead?

Harvard shouldn't be getting a dime of taxpayer money.

Why not? Don't you want to invest in the future of your country, or don't you care-just so you can make a political point?

 

[Callen]

SCOTUS ruled over 40 years (Bob Jones U) that strings could be placed on a private college receiving govt benefits.

I am very confident a majority will see these "strings" as excessive. We'll soon see.

 

[Athanasius68]

Nope that's not how it works. Congress says x amount goes to here. It goes to there.

Yep.
And here Congress didn't say $x go here. They said the president decides where $× goes.
Within the parameters as directed by Congress.

 

[snakestretcher]

Why is Harvard getting any money in the first place... they are valued at over 50 Billion dollars.

Why? This might help:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/18/us/harvard-university-endowment/index.html

 

[Callen]

Yep.
And here Congress didn't say $x go here. They said the president decides where $× goes.
Within the parameters as directed by Congress.

The issue isn't the allocation it is withholding of appropriated funds for unconstitutional reasons.

 

[snakestretcher]

I'm sure some radical extremist left wing judge will objectively rule that Harvard is entitled to public funding and Trump has no authority to dictate how that money is spent.

Why does that upset you, when Harvard produces some of the world's most brilliant minds?

 

[snakestretcher]

Why would they do that?
Harvard has no right to the money.

Who says?

 

[Callen]

Why does that upset you, when Harvard produces some of the world's most brilliant minds?

I have a theory but.....

 

[snakestretcher]

I have a theory but.....

I think we probably share the same theory...

 

[Athanasius68]

Who says?

The taxpayers...

 

[Athanasius68]

The issue isn't the allocation it is withholding of appropriated funds for unconstitutional reasons.

Didn't say it was being withheld.
Perhaps allocated differently.