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Harris accepts CNN debate invitation for October 23, again challenging Trump to another showdown (1 Viewer)

No Allan is correct. After the debate with Harris. Trump said he would not do a debate with Bret and Mrtha but would with Hannity.

"Well, I wouldn't want to have Martha and Bret; I would love to have somebody else other than Martha and Bret," Trump said on Fox & Friends the morning after his first debate with Vice President Kamala Harris, naming Sean Hannity, Jesse Watters and Laura Ingraham as moderators he'd prefer.


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Aug. 8, 2024, 2:59 PM EDT
By Alexandra Marquez and Garrett Haake

Former President Donald Trump said Thursday he would be open to debating Vice President Kamala Harris three times next month.
Speaking at a news conference at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, Trump said that "I think it’s very important to have debates" and that he had accepted invitations from NBC News, Fox News and ABC News.

During his announcement, Trump seemingly got some of the dates incorrect. Both ABC News and the Trump campaign later clarified that the ABC News debate would take place on Sept. 10. The Fox News debate was previously proposed for Sept. 4.
A source familiar with the plans said the NBC News one was set for Sept. 25, which was one of the options the network gave the campaigns as a date."
 
LOL! YEah right!

Kinda like ABC did?

Despite KNOWING that ABC would perform as they did, Trump did it anyways. Harris would NEVER dare go outside of her leftist media bubble.

I'm sorry Trump sucked so bad in the debate that you have to go after ABC News. Talk about being in a bubble.
 
Its all moot now. Trump says its too late for a debate, even though this is traditionally when they begin.
 

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Aug. 8, 2024, 2:59 PM EDT
By Alexandra Marquez and Garrett Haake

Former President Donald Trump said Thursday he would be open to debating Vice President Kamala Harris three times next month.
Speaking at a news conference at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, Trump said that "I think it’s very important to have debates" and that he had accepted invitations from NBC News, Fox News and ABC News.

During his announcement, Trump seemingly got some of the dates incorrect. Both ABC News and the Trump campaign later clarified that the ABC News debate would take place on Sept. 10. The Fox News debate was previously proposed for Sept. 4.
A source familiar with the plans said the NBC News one was set for Sept. 25, which was one of the options the network gave the campaigns as a date."
Look at the dates. The offer of the Fox debate which was to be moderated by Martha and Bret was August 8th. His saying he wanted a Fox debate but he did not want Martha or Bret but rather Hannity and the like was Sept 11th .
 
They already had an ABC debate scheduled.
You now want to shift your point - which was about Fox. Fox News was the very first debate made to both campaigns (immediately after Harris became the nominee, politely, in writing, and offering negotiation). Trump said yes. Harris said no.

Trump did an ABC debate which makes that a rather awkward topic shift on your part. The fact remains, Allan, this quote below is BS. Bret and Martha were chosen 9/4 moderators. Trump accepted the 9/4 Fox debate. Harris declined.

Trump excluded Fox by insisting on Hannity.

There's no way Fox news division would let him host a debate - they'd be a laughing stock.
 
CNN pollout today with Harris at +1 which is nothing but it is a +4 point shift from their last poll July 22. One thing the poll pointed out is that there has been a marked increase in her favorability . So whatever she is doing, it's working which is likely why Trumpers want her to change
 
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You now want to shift your point - which was about Fox. Fox News was the very first debate made to both campaigns (immediately after Harris became the nominee, politely, in writing, and offering negotiation). Trump said yes. Harris said no.

Trump did an ABC debate which makes that a rather awkward topic shift on your part. The fact remains, Allan, this quote below is BS. Bret and Martha were chosen 9/4 moderators. Trump accepted the 9/4 Fox debate. Harris declined.
Allan was referring to Trumps comments Sept 11th when he said he wouldn't accept Bret or Martha, he wanted Hanitty or Ingraham.
 

Stirewalt: Trump is ‘polling better’ because ‘voters have made up their mind sooner’ | The Hill



 
I'm sorry Trump sucked so bad in the debate that you have to go after ABC News. Talk about being in a bubble.
Sorry that you do not have the intellectual honesty to admit how biased the ABC news moderators were.

Not surprised.
 
Sorry that you do not have the intellectual honesty to admit how biased the ABC news moderators were.

Not surprised.

They were so mean they made Donald spew an insane rant about people eating pets.

The meanies 😠
 
Allan was referring to Trumps comments Sept 11th when he said he wouldn't accept Bret or Martha, he wanted Hanitty or Ingraham.
@gbg3 this is what I was referring to.
 
They were so mean they made Donald spew an insane rant about people eating pets.

The meanies 😠
Did not say "mean", just "biased".

You, also, obviously do not have the intellectual honesty to recognize the obvious bias exhibited by ABC news. Not surprised.
 
You, also, obviously do not have the intellectual honesty to recognize the obvious bias exhibited by ABC news. Not surprised.
They called him on two seriously egregious lies that were community affecting and slanderous yet let the other 30 lies go. What lie did she tell that even came close to his " eating pets" and "murdering babies" lies?
 
They called him on two seriously egregious lies that were community affecting and slanderous yet let the other 30 lies go. What lie did she tell that even came close to his " eating pets" and "murdering babies" lies?
Not that it will matter, here are a few of the more significant ones....



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January 6

"And on that day, the president of the United States incited a violent mob to attack our nation's Capitol, to desecrate our nation's Capitol. On that day, 140 law enforcement officers were injured. And some died."

FACT-CHECK: False.
Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick died in the hospital the next day and not by a fire extinguisher to the head, as falsely claimed by multiple mainstream media outlets. His official cause of death was two strokes, occurring many hours after the Capitol riot.
According to the DC medical examiner's office's report, Sicknick suffered no injuries, internal or external. He also didn't have a reaction to bear spray, which national news outlets had fallen back on, claiming that the mace used by the rioters caused the officer's pair of strokes.
Specifically, Sicknick succumbed to "acute brainstem and cerebellar infarcts due to acute basilar artery thrombosis," the coroner said. When the term "natural causes" is used in such cases, that means "disease alone causes death," the medical examiner explained. "If death is hastened by an injury, the manner of death is not considered natural."

Harris also shamelessly claimed on the eve of 9/11 that J6 was "the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War."

'Very Fine People' Hoax

"Let's remember Charlottesville where there was a mob of people carrying tiki torches, spewing antisemitic hate. What did the president then at the time say? There were fine people on both sides."

FACT-CHECK: False.
Trump did not call neo-Nazis and white supremacists who had attended the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, "very fine people." In fact, Trump explicitly condemned them.
Even Snopes debunked this long-repeated lie, which President Joe Biden — and now Harris — had made a cornerstone of his campaign.
Here are Trump's actual remarks to reporters in 2017, including his outright condemnation [Emphasis added]:
You had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me. Excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.

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And you had people — and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists — because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay?

'Bloodbath' Lie

"Donald Trump the candidate has said in this election there will be a bloodbath if the outcome of this election is not to his liking"

FACT-CHECK: False.

Trump, while speaking at an event about the auto industry, warned that it would be an economic "bloodbath" for the future of autoworkers and the country at large if Biden were to win.

"We're going to put a 100 percent tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you're not going to be able to sell those guys if I get elected," Trump specifically said, promising to impose tariffs on foreign-made cars crossing the border.

"Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that's gonna be the least of it," Trump continued. "It's going to be a bloodbath for the country. That'll be the least of it.""https://townhall.com/tipsheet/miacathell/2024/09/11/kamala-presidential-debate-fact-check-n2644587
 
Not that it will matter, here are a few of the more significant ones....
You call those significant! At best they are words taken out of context . He put an entire community at risk by deliberately spreading lies about them. The result was bomb threats on schools. The moderators had an moral and ethical responsibility to set that straight. They let by far the majority of his lies go unchecked.

All that aside . nobody made him rant like an idiot, nobody made him take the bait. His performance was abysmal and that's on him. he was totally unprepared for question any idiot could have expected.
 
Good national poll in today for Harris from Reuters/IPSOS ........Harris +6. She has seen a steady climb in this poll over the last few months from TIE just after the debate to +6. Previous to that it was for Trump.
 
Good national poll in today for Harris from Reuters/IPSOS ........Harris +6. She has seen a steady climb in this poll over the last few months from TIE just after the debate to +6. Previous to that it was for Trump.

If you look at where Biden was relative to Trump what's the gain?
 
@gbg3 this is what I was referring to.
I'm done playing your goal shifting and complete twisting game Allan. A casual conversation Trump had on Fox and Friends, regarding 3 moderators he might prefer over Bret and Martha, when no such debate was even being considered or proposed to Trump, let alone Harris - was just that, a casual conversation having nothing to do with any proposed or considered debate by anyone - neither nominee nor the network.

There was one debate on Fox News which was formally offered in writing to both campaigns almost instantly after Harris became the nominee. It was the first debate offered to that pairing - it was to be on Sept. 4th - and the moderators were scheduled to be Bret and Martha. Bret, on the day it was formally offered, and the days after, discussed the offer on his show and continued to update viewers when Trump accepted and then again when Harris declined. Below, is what you posted and that this is pure and simple BS. Trump never "excluded" an actual Fox News debate offer. Trump, in fact, accepted one. Harris, in fact, "excluded" one. And Trump never "insisted" on Hannity. Long after Harris declined a formal Fox News debate offer (with Bret and Martha, the one Trump accepted), Trump participated in a casual conversation about Hannity, Ingraham and Jesse, on a Fox News morning show. But any debate with any of those three moderating was never planned, offered, or accepted by either candidate.

Trump excluded Fox by insisting on Hannity.
 
Trumps smart to refuse regardless of how many people call him chicken. He looked terrible in the last debate, and he'll do himself better just continuing to lie to people at his rallies that believe it.
A CNN debate with a bunch of pro Harris moderators? Yes, Kamala Harris was very courageous to accept that invitation .
 
Be nice if Trump accepts, so hopefully he does. Kamala and the democrats are scared to death......1st debate CNN, 2nd debate ABC, now 3rd debate CNN again......what a bunch of wusses.

Why should Trump accept? The Democrats always demand that the debates be on "Liberal" news stations. Frequently when that occurs, the "Liberal" stations cheat on behalf of the Democrat candidate.

CNN and Donna Brazil did it for Hillary in the 2016 debate.

General Media reporting swung against Trump due to Covid, which was a topic of both the FOX and NBC debates in 2020.

This go-round CNN hosted the Biden v. Trump debate, but Biden was so mentally deficient even the obvious help CNN tried to give couldn't overcome the situation. What happened then? Democrats "removed" Biden at the last minute and stuck in Harris.

Currently the NBC active bias in questioning and fact checking of Trump during the NBC debate, and the reports Harris had been given the questions prior to it made that a wash.

Trump is correct. Most people pretty much know how they are going to vote. So, while there are some who might still be unsure, the tides appear to be going Trump's way.

Meanwhile, early voting has already started in several States.

He has no reason to give Harris another chance with another biased network.
 
If you look at where Biden was relative to Trump what's the gain?
It depends on how far you go back. If you take the poll back to only include the three times it's been conducted since 8/5 (when Harris had acquired the sufficient delegates to become the nominee), there has been an increase of one point in her favor. In the one out today, they moved from registered to likely voters. But they discussed that in the text - she's the same +5 as she was in the previous release, earlier this month.

"The latest Reuters/Ipsos poll surveyed 1,029 U.S. adults online, nationwide, including 871 registered voters. Among these, 785 were considered the most likely to turn out on Election Day. Among these likely voters, Harris led 50% to 44%, though similar to her lead among all registered voters, her advantage was only five points when using unrounded figures."




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A casual conversation Trump had on Fox and Friends, regarding 3 moderators he might prefer
A "casual " conversation on nationwide TV with a Presedential candidate and a major media outlet...casual? During which he states clearly he won't accept the two actual journalists at Fox....and she is to say yes! There is zero doubt Hannity and Ingraham would give him the questions or even ask what he told them to ask

There is no such thing as a casual conversation with a Presedential candidate on nation wide TV
 

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