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PORTLAND, Ore. — Portland has a big trash problem. You see it on the streets, along the interstates, and scattered in parks. So, who's tossing all of it? It's easy to point the finger at homeless people, but the answer isn't so simple.
Al Held lives in a camper, just off 33rd Avenue in Northeast Portland. His is one of the tidier spots. In front of him and behind him, there's litter as far as the eye can see. Some of it was dumped there just hours before we met him.
"There was a guy driving some big semi-truck, like a moving semi-truck, and there was a guy in the back of it and was rolling down the street, and he just starting throwing stuff out," said Held.
Homeless not only ones contributing to Portland's trash problem
This socialist experiment is run by a five member committee who look around, then at each other, and blink.
In a world where, for some, the word "Trump" has become synonymous with honesty and truth, words have lost their meaning.I had never thought that I would live to see the day that the word "Oregon" would be synonymous with chaos & craziness.
No, the socialist committee is the Portland city gov't.The founder of Adopt One Block is named Frank Moscow. I guess that's where you got the idea there were socialists involved?
It sounds as though the city is quite happy to have dumpers polluting anywhere the homeless people are. How about catching these dumpers and giving them a heavy fine, enough to wreck their business model?
And provide garbage services to homeless people DUH. I don't care if it sounds socialist, or if it is.
I am very old (84).
All my life I had heard about how wonderful Oregon was.
It is a beautiful state.
A lot of rain.
Nice people. Really nice people, who would (jokingly?) say, "Come visit, but please don't stay."
I had never thought that I would live to see the day that the word "Oregon" would be synonymous with chaos & craziness.
All one can do is to shake one's head at what has happened and is happening to the United States of America.
In a world where, for some, the word "Trump" has become synonymous with honesty and truth, words have lost their meaning.
No, the socialist committee is the Portland city gov't.
I agree! There are already ordinances that impose fines for dumping and littering, they just need to be enforced.
But you would agree we need to apply the law equally, right? I mean, all trash dumpers need to be fined, correct?
I don't get free garbage services from the city, why should anyone else?
In fact, you have a choice, subscribe to a trash hauling service or take it to the dump. The dump charges $12 minimum, so you have to pay either way.
There's no free garbage disposal in Oregon that I'm aware of.
I agree, before I retired last July I had several store locations in Washington and Oregon with my distribution center in Hillsboro. The drive in from the airport was always a shock to me, so much trash along the highway and surface streets, embarrassing.
Actually no. If homeless people "put out the trash" and the city doesn't take it, for whatever reason, then I'm not inclined to fine them at all.
Plus, they likely can't pay. What are you going to do, evict them?
Plainly they need it. Making the regular collection weekly instead of bi-weekly is rather obvious too.
Homeless people should give a damn, particularly when provoked by someone throwing away meat (unsanitary). I'm sure some of them have phones. Maybe they're not being taken seriously by police, or they're afraid of police?
Is that an acceptable criteria for applying laws and ordinances? Really?
So only fine those who can afford it, and the rest don't have to comply?
Who pays for this? Why don't I get free garbage collection?
I don't know but if it helps your narrative I'm sure you'll invent a fear.
I know, right?I am very old (84).
All my life I had heard about how wonderful Oregon was.
It is a beautiful state.
A lot of rain.
Nice people. Really nice people, who would (jokingly?) say, "Come visit, but please don't stay."
I had never thought that I would live to see the day that the word "Oregon" would be synonymous with chaos & craziness.
All one can do is to shake one's head at what has happened and is happening to the United States of America.
No, no, no!I know, right?
Next thing you know a POTUS would actually try to overthrow an election and STILL retain millions of supporters.
Crazy times, huh?
Yes, if it's trash or sewage.
I suspect what you truly need, no government can provide.Why should anyone pay for it if the city is willing to give it away for free?
Why should anyone pay taxes if a chosen group is absolved from contributing to society?
Why should I even get up and go to work if the gov't will supply me with everything I need?
If we all stop working to receive gov't handouts, where will the money come from to pay us what we're due?
Why should anyone pay for it if the city is willing to give it away for free?
Why should anyone pay taxes if a chosen group is absolved from contributing to society?
Why should I even get up and go to work if the gov't will supply me with everything I need?
If we all stop working to receive gov't handouts, where will the money come from to pay us what we're due?
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