Happy Easter, the day we celebrate Christ's victory over death! (1 Viewer)

[Gordy327]

Adam and Eve was a made up story or it’s like that game where you whisper in someone’s ear and they whisper to the person next to them and by the time it gets to the last person it’s totally different. Remember how the ancient Greeks and Romans believed about their gods.? who are we to say they weren’t true?

A&E is one of many stories made up in the bible. No rational person would consider those stories literal or actual truth, especially given the contradictory evidence against them.

 

[Lees]

I love it. God gets all the credit, but none of the blame.

No, you don't love it. You love that you think you have something to accuse God have that He is not willing to accept.

God accepts it all. He has big shoulders. He is ominipotent. If 3,000 are saved, He is responsible. If 3,000 are slain, He is responsible. If 3,000 are saved, it is good. If 3,000 are slain, it is good.

You see? Probably not. God doesn't do the good. What God does is good.

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[AConcernedCitizen]

Jesus's greatest miracle was rising from the tomb in defiance of death.

That wasn't Jesus' miracle. That was His Dad's miracle.

Jesus' greatest miracle was that time that he kept the booze flowing at a party when they ran out of wine.

 

[Lees]

That wasn't Jesus' miracle. That was His Dad's miracle.

Jesus' greatest miracle was that time that he kept the booze flowing at a party when they ran out of wine.

That was a great miracle. But I believe His greatest was raising Lazarus from the dead.

And Jesus did say He had power to raise Himself from the dead. (John 2:19-21) (John 10:17-18)

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[AConcernedCitizen]

That was a great miracle. But I believe His greatest was raising Lazarus from the dead.

Nah, Elijah had already done the whole resurrection-of-the-dead schtick.

The water to wine trick was fresh, topical, and established Jesus as the kind of demigod who was down to party.

 

[LittleNipper]

Nah, Elijah had already done the whole resurrection-of-the-dead schtick.

The water to wine trick was fresh, topical, and established Jesus as the kind of demigod who was down to party.

Nope! The LORD raises the widow's SON. Elijah merely asked GOD...

1 Kings 17:17-24

17 After this the son of the woman, the mistress of the house, became ill. And his illness was so severe that there was no breath left in him. 18 And she said to Elijah, “What have you against me, O man of God? You have come to me to bring my sin to remembrance and to cause the death of my son!” 19 And he said to her, “Give me your son.” And he took him from her arms and carried him up into the upper chamber where he lodged, and laid him on his own bed. 20 And he cried to the Lord, “O Lord my God, have you brought calamity even upon the widow with whom I sojourn, by killing her son?” 21 Then he stretched himself upon the child three times and cried to the Lord, “O Lord my God, let this child's life come into him again.” 22 And the Lord listened to the voice of Elijah. And the life of the child came into him again, and he revived. 23 And Elijah took the child and brought him down from the upper chamber into the house and delivered him to his mother. And Elijah said, “See, your son lives.” 24 And the woman said to Elijah, “Now I know that you are a man of God, and that the word of the Lord in your mouth is truth.”​

 

[LittleNipper]

John 11:38-44 (JESUS raised Lazarus!)

38 Jesus, once more deeply moved, came to the tomb. It was a cave with a stone laid across the entrance. 39 “Take away the stone,” he said.

“But, Lord,” said Martha, the sister of the dead man, “by this time there is a bad odor, for he has been there four days.”

40 Then Jesus said, “Did I not tell you that if you believe, you will see the glory of God?”

41 So they took away the stone. Then Jesus looked up and said, “Father, I thank you that you have heard me. 42 I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me.”

43 When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!” 44 The dead man came out, his hands and feet wrapped with strips of linen, and a cloth around his face.

Jesus said to them, “Take off the grave clothes and let him go.”

 

[Michael Cole]

Maybe they aren't asking HIM for rain.

When earthquakes occur

What is this supposed to mean? There are earthquakes happening all around me as I type. If you live in a seismically active area, they're happening all around you, as well.

there's an opportunity for Christians to help and be a witness that they likely never had before. The entire Universe groans over the weight of sin, and so stuff will happen.

Like I said, I'm "witnessing" earthquakes right now.

What are you talking about?

 

[Loulit01]

38 `Ye heard that it was said: Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth;
39 but I -- I say to you, not to resist the evil, but whoever shall slap thee on thy right cheek, turn to him also the other;
40 and whoever is willing to take thee to law, and thy coat to take -- suffer to him also the cloak.
41 `And whoever shall impress thee one mile, go with him two,
42 to him who is asking of thee be giving, and him who is willing to borrow from thee thou mayest not turn away.
43 `Ye heard that it was said: Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and shalt hate thine enemy;
44 but I -- I say to you, Love your enemies, bless those cursing you, do good to those hating you, and pray for those accusing you falsely, and persecuting you,
45 that ye may be sons of your Father in the heavens, because His sun He doth cause to rise on evil and good, and He doth send rain on righteous and unrighteous.

Yep, accurately describes all the Christians I know.

 

[Lees]

Nah, Elijah had already done the whole resurrection-of-the-dead schtick.

The water to wine trick was fresh, topical, and established Jesus as the kind of demigod who was down to party.

And that was Elijah's greatest miracle. He had already done a similar one as Jesus did with the wine. (1 Kings 17:13-14)

But, all were miracles by the hand of God.

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[Lees]

38 `Ye heard that it was said: Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth;
39 but I -- I say to you, not to resist the evil, but whoever shall slap thee on thy right cheek, turn to him also the other;
40 and whoever is willing to take thee to law, and thy coat to take -- suffer to him also the cloak.
41 `And whoever shall impress thee one mile, go with him two,
42 to him who is asking of thee be giving, and him who is willing to borrow from thee thou mayest not turn away.
43 `Ye heard that it was said: Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and shalt hate thine enemy;
44 but I -- I say to you, Love your enemies, bless those cursing you, do good to those hating you, and pray for those accusing you falsely, and persecuting you,
45 that ye may be sons of your Father in the heavens, because His sun He doth cause to rise on evil and good, and He doth send rain on righteous and unrighteous.

Yep, accurately describes all the Christians I know.

Does it? I doubt it. And, why should it?

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[Loulit01]

Does it? I doubt it. And, why should it?

Lees

Why should it? Because Jesus asked it of you. That's not enough?

 

[Lees]

Why should it? Because Jesus asked it of you. That's not enough?

Did He? Who was Jesus talking to? The Jews. And what was the basis for His Sermon on the Mount? Conduct in the coming Kingdom. And what was that Kingdom of Heaven? It was the Kingdom promised to Israel where Messiah will rule over the Earth in Jerusalem, with Israel as the leading nation of the world. The Church didn't even exist at that time. And that Kingdom didn't come because of Israel's rejection of her Messiah.

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[Loulit01]

Did He? Who was Jesus talking to? The Jews. And what was the basis for His Sermon on the Mount? Conduct in the coming Kingdom. And what was that Kingdom of Heaven? It was the Kingdom promised to Israel where Messiah will rule over the Earth in Jerusalem, with Israel as the leading nation of the world. The Church didn't even exist at that time. And that Kingdom didn't come because Israel's rejection of her Messiah.

Lees

Claptrap like the above is why I'm an atheist. Jesus was speaking to everyone. No one needs to be told how to conduct themselves in heaven... they'll be in the presence of God. You make no sense but that's only because you don't have a clue. Your post is a jumble of nonsense.

 

[Lees]

Claptrap like the above is why I'm an atheist. Jesus was speaking to everyone. No one needs to be told how to conduct themselves in heaven... they'll be in the presence of God. You make no sense but that's only because you don't have a clue. Your post is a jumble of nonsense.

The Kingdom of Heaven in the Bible, is not Heaven. It is Heaven on Earth, implemented by man. God ruling through His Man on Earth, Jesus Christ.

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[Daisy]

"Paul, an apostle, neither from men nor through a man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him up from the dead," Galatians 1:1

John 2:19-22:

By what he here said, did Jesus mean that he would resurrect himself from the dead? Does that mean that Jesus is God, because Acts 2:32 says, “This Jesus God raised up”? Not at all. Such a view would conflict with Galatians 1:1, which ascribes the resurrection of Jesus to the Father, not to the Son. Using a similar mode of expression, at Luke 8:48 Jesus is quoted as saying to a woman: “Your faith has made you well.” Did she heal herself? No; it was power from God through Christ that healed her because she had faith. (Luke 8:46; Acts 10:38) Likewise, by his perfect obedience as a human, Jesus provided the moral basis for the Father to raise him from the dead, thus acknowledging Jesus as God’s Son. Because of Jesus’ faithful course of life, it could properly be said that Jesus himself was responsible for his resurrection.

Says A. T. Robertson in Word Pictures in the New Testament: “Recall [John] 2:19 where Jesus said: ‘And in three days I will raise it up.’ He did not mean that he will raise himself from the dead independently of the Father as the active agent (Rom. 8:11).”—(New York, 1932), Vol. V, p. 183.

John 10:30:

When saying, “I and the Father are one,” did Jesus mean that they were equal? Some Trinitarians say that he did. But at John 17:21, 22, Jesus prayed regarding his followers: “That they may all be one,” and he added, “that they may be one even as we are one.” He used the same Greek word (hen) for “one” in all these instances. Obviously, Jesus’ disciples do not all become part of the Trinity. But they do come to share a oneness of purpose with the Father and the Son, the same sort of oneness that unites God and Christ.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101989276

 

[Michael Cole]

Your question points to thinking in earthly terms.

Only God is sovereign and he does as he wills for his purpose.

Tell me about these earthly terms. Sovereignty, will and purpose.

Good stuff.

ONLY YOU CAN TRANSCEND EARTHLY THOUGHT. YOU THINK IN TRANS-EARTHLY TERMS.

Lmao. Really good stuff.

 

[Revelation]

Your question points to thinking in earthly terms. Only God is sovereign and he does as he wills for his purpose.

Tell me about these earthly terms. Sovereignty, will and purpose.

Good stuff.

ONLY YOU CAN TRANSCEND EARTHLY THOUGHT. YOU THINK IN TRANS-EARTHLY TERMS.

Lmao. Really good stuff.

hey Mike, you want your clock cleaned today ??

Vy can do that for you; the Sovereignty question is his domain. and i think you neeeed some skoolin today.


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[VySky]

Tell me about these earthly terms. Sovereignty, will and purpose.

hey Mike, you want your clock cleaned today ??

Vy can do that for you; the Sovereignty question is his domain. and i think you neeeed some skoolin today.

Indeed one of the awesome attributes of GOD is his sovereignty.

Mike's 3 questions looking for insight into sovereignty, will, and purpose are covered in the scriptures that follows.

Emphasis mine


Sovereignty /sŏv′ər-ĭn-tē, sŏv′rĭn-/

noun​

1 Supremacy of authority or rule as exercised by a sovereign or sovereign state
2 Royal rank, authority, or power.

For it is written;

Colossians 1:16
16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.

Psalms 115:3
3 Our God is in the heavens;
he does all that he pleases.

Proverbs 19:21
“Many are the plans in a person’s heart, but it is the Lord’s purpose that prevails.”

Isaiah 61:1
1 “The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me, because the LORD has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners.”

 

[Revelation]

Indeed one of the awesome attributes of GOD is his sovereignty.

Mike's 3 questions looking for insight into sovereignty, will, and purpose are covered in the scriptures that follows.

Emphasis mine

thanks Vy.

i think Mike would rather mess with me cause you take no prisoners. he hates losing so bad when his points lack much solid support.

Sovereignty /sŏv′ər-ĭn-tē, sŏv′rĭn-/

noun​

1 Supremacy of authority or rule as exercised by a sovereign or sovereign state
2 Royal rank, authority, or power.

For it is written;

Colossians 1:16
16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.

Psalms 115:3
3 Our God is in the heavens;
he does all that he pleases.

Proverbs 19:21
“Many are the plans in a person’s heart, but it is the Lord’s purpose that prevails.”

Isaiah 61:1
1 “The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me, because the LORD has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners.”

 

[LittleNipper]

What is this supposed to mean? There are earthquakes happening all around me as I type. If you live in a seismically active area, they're happening all around you, as well.


Like I said, I'm "witnessing" earthquakes right now.

What are you talking about?

There were likely no earthquakes before the Noah's Flood. The earth's crust had not been fractured until the FLOOD event.

 

[Gordy327]

There were likely no earthquakes before the Noah's Flood. The earth's crust had not been fractured until the FLOOD event.

That's a joke, right?

 

[noonereal]

Jesus's greatest miracle was rising from the tomb in defiance of death. Jesus gave himself as the ultimate sacrificial lamb so that ALL people can live forever! Jesus is our Savior and Jesus is Lord! All praise, glory, and thanks to Jesus forever and ever!

Kind of a wild belief, no?

 

[Gordy327]

Kind of a wild belief, no?

"Wild" isn't the word I'd use.