Hakeem Jeffries (D) As House Speaker?

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

If you bet on the Democrat, I hope that it was a small bet. There are enough Republicans who are familiar with procedural loopholes that I don't see this one slipping by them.

Yeah....because these Republicans are so logical and rational. Don't underestimate their utter stupidity and gooberness.

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

Maybe, I just see the system is going to have to change so that this doesnt happen again. Systemic change is going to have to happen whether we like it or not but this is the slow slow slow change that everyone built. This belief that getting rid of the bad guys and the system will run perfectly is no longer attenable.

Why does it have to change? The system has functioned just fine in the past.

It's not the system's fault. It's the idiocy of the crazy Republican Nazi Party that's causing this.

 

[Roadvirus]

That doesn't even make any sense.

Jeffries didn't accept Trump's win in 2016 as legit & he supports Reparations.

 

[NWRatCon]

Jeffries didn't accept Trump's win in 2016 as legit & he supports Reparations.

I support reparations. So? As to the other, cite?

 

[Roadvirus]

I support reparations. So?

So? People should not have to pay for the sins of their ancestors.

As to the other, cite?

Dems' pick for House speaker called 2016 election 'illegitimate,' alleged GOP cheated to secure Trump win

Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., the Democratic nominee to become the next Speaker of the House, has claimed Donald Trump was an 'illegitimate' president.

wjla.com

 

[NWRatCon]

So? People should not have to pay for the sins of their ancestors.

Dems' pick for House speaker called 2016 election 'illegitimate,' alleged GOP cheated to secure Trump win

Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., the Democratic nominee to become the next Speaker of the House, has claimed Donald Trump was an 'illegitimate' president.

wjla.com

He made a point. He was not wrong. I love how you apply different standards depending on the result you want.

I happen to agree people shouldn't have to pay for sins of their forebears, which is why I support reparations. We, as a society, are still punishing black Americans for their forebears being slaves.

 

[bomberfox]

Why does it have to change? The system has functioned just fine in the past.

It's not the system's fault. It's the idiocy of the crazy Republican Nazi Party that's causing this.

Did it? Not really. It still allowed Mitch McConnel to hold the government hostage for weeks just because he couldnt get what he wanted, it allowed voting rights to be ****ed with on a local level, it allowed extreme partisan gerrymandering, it allowed the great recession, it allowed jim crow assholes to prepare for a second coming, it allowed for legalized bribery on an unprecedented scale, and made us citizens feel like we dont have a voice, the justice and police system only serving the rich and private prisons, it allowed for the filibuster to become such a roadblock the senate can barely even function. The system is zombie.

The US has to ****ing change it doesnt matter if you like it or not but putting off necessary change because of some ideological loyalty to the system just makes things worse.

 

[bomberfox]

So? People should not have to pay for the sins of their ancestors.

Dems' pick for House speaker called 2016 election 'illegitimate,' alleged GOP cheated to secure Trump win

Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., the Democratic nominee to become the next Speaker of the House, has claimed Donald Trump was an 'illegitimate' president.

wjla.com

The US government made a promise 20 acres and a mule. I dont think you understand the concept of restorative justice.

 

[Michael Cole]

The 31st Congress elected Howell Cobb with a plurality after 63 ballots. This Congress should do the same.

Neither the Democrats nor the Whigs had a majority in the 31st Congress...

On Dec. 19, the Whig caucus invited six Democrats and six Whigs to create a "Conference Committee," which met the next day, at which point 59 ballots had been cast with no speaker elected, according to "Fighting for the Speakership."

The "Conference Committee" decided there would be three more majority votes for speaker and if no speaker could receive a majority, it would go to a plurality vote. The rule change was brought to the House floor on Dec. 22, and it passed 113-105. The Democrats and the Whigs also decided to go back to supporting their original candidates, Cobb and Winthrop.

After no one received a majority in the next three votes, Cobb won on the 63rd ballot with a plurality, thanks to the newly enacted rule change.

House speaker finally elected on 15th ballot — the most since before Civil War

It's still far short of the longest speaker's election in history, which took nearly two months and 133 ballots.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Super Chief]

I believe Jeffries received 212 votes for Speaker on the House floor today. A lot more than McCarthy.

Are there 5 sane Republicans left in the House that are sensible enough to switch sides and vote for Jeffries?

That will never happen. Jeffries knows it, so does every one of the 212 who voted for him.

You can't completely rule it out, especially after the ridiculous, chaotic Republican shit show that we saw today.

No, I can completely rule it out.

 

[Helix]

Yeah....because these Republicans are so logical and rational. Don't underestimate their utter stupidity and gooberness.

Don't underestimate their win at any cost strategy.

 

[digsbe]

I believe Jeffries received 212 votes for Speaker on the House floor today. A lot more than McCarthy.

Are there 5 sane Republicans left in the House that are sensible enough to switch sides and vote for Jeffries?

You can't completely rule it out, especially after the ridiculous, chaotic Republican shit show that we saw today.

“Sane” and “vote for Jeffries” should not be uttered in the same sentence lol.

 

[Napoleon]

No Democrat will EVER vote with the 150+ Republican traitor election deniers who believe Trump won the 2020 election, at least not when it comes to Speaker.

If that’s the hill you want the government and all the goodies it lavishes on the poor and lazy to die on then so be it. Or you can get over it and do something reasonable.

 

[Galactic Spin]

If that’s the hill you want the government and all the goodies it lavishes on the poor and lazy to die on then so be it. Or you can get over it and do something reasonable.

The reasonable thing would have been to throw them out of Congress. But that would require reasonable republicans to assist.

 

[NWRatCon]

The US government made a promise 20 acres and a mule. I dont think you understand the concept of restorative justice.

Restorative or not, he doesn't understand the concept of justice.

 

[bomberfox]

The amount of people that think just getting rid of the bad guy will solve all problems is kind of disappointing. Like ive been saying for 5 years that getting rid of trump is not the end point here, more like the end of the beginning .

 

[NWRatCon]

“Sane” and “vote for Jeffries” should not be uttered in the same sentence lol.

Good luck with that.

 

[Crovax]

I support reparations. So? As to the other, cite?

Here are 13 times Jeffries denied election results.

Jeffries said, "there is a cloud of illegitimacy around the election of Donald Trump" because of the "fake news industry.”
Jeffries said the “legitimacy” of the 2016 presidential election was “in doubt.”
Jeffries claimed there is “a cloud of illegitimacy…hanging over” the Trump White House.
Jeffries tweeted “the more we learn about 2016 election the more ILLEGITIMATE it becomes.”
Jeffries said “there is clearly a cloud of illegitimacy hanging over 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue that’s growing bigger by the day.”
Jeffries claimed Republicans “cheat[ed]” in the 2016 presidential election.
Jeffries suggested multiple congressional seats were “stolen by rogue Republican operatives.”
Jeffries suggested Trump was an “illegitimate president” or a “Russian asset.”
Jeffries claimed Russia “artificially” put Trump in the White House.
Jeffries said there was a "cloud of illegitimacy that continues to hang over" the Trump presidency.
Jeffries tweeted “the cloud of illegitimacy hanging over 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. grows stronger by the day.”
Jeffries accused Republicans of “trying to steal the [2020] election.”
Jeffries said “history will never accept” Trump “as a legitimate President.”

 

[Crovax]

The US government made a promise 20 acres and a mule. I dont think you understand the concept of restorative justice.

I thought it was 40 acres

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

Did it? Not really. It still allowed Mitch McConnel to hold the government hostage for weeks just because he couldnt get what he wanted, it allowed voting rights to be ****ed with on a local level, it allowed extreme partisan gerrymandering, it allowed the great recession, it allowed jim crow assholes to prepare for a second coming, it allowed for legalized bribery on an unprecedented scale, and made us citizens feel like we dont have a voice, the justice and police system only serving the rich and private prisons, it allowed for the filibuster to become such a roadblock the senate can barely even function. The system is zombie.

The US has to ****ing change it doesnt matter if you like it or not but putting off necessary change because of some ideological loyalty to the system just makes things worse.

I was talking about picking a Speaker.

 

[NWRatCon]

Good luck with that.

I suppose, really, l should have just pointed out that "sane" really cannot be used in any sentence that includes Republicans.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Having a Speaker from the minority isn't likely to work. Even if they did have the 218 necessary, which Jeffries did not.

If the Dems did have 218 votes they would be the majority, Jeffries would already be confirmed Speaker, and the cleaning would be the only folks in the House chamber.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

The Republican debacle in the House continues. There have been six votes for Speaker. McCarthy, the Republican leader, has been defeated six times. Despite the fact that the Republicans have a slim majority in the House, Hakeem Jeffries, the Democratic minority leader has received more votes than McCarthy.

That's embarrassing!

It is largely McCarthy's own fault. CNN explains.

"He has spent the past several years courting and catering to those in his party who engage in conspiracy theorizing and election denial, and has even supported members who have played footsie with White nationalists.

"He seems to understand now just how damaging Trump and the cult of personality around him has been to the GOP – his private phone calls made in the aftermath of January 6, 2021, made clear that he worried that members of his own party were endangering other lawmakers with their rhetoric – but then chooses to empower those dangerous members anyway.

"He is reaping the consequences of helping to reshape his party in the image of Trump. A hallmark of Trumpism was a rejection of decency and moderation and the intentional destruction of the institutions that kept our country stable."

139 Republicans in the House, including McCarthy, voted to reject Electoral College votes on Jan. 6, 2021. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/07/us/elections/electoral-college-biden-objectors.html

After the sixth vote, the House recessed again. No one knows how long the Republican failures will continue. In the meantime, the government is stalled. The House cannot conduct business without a speaker.

Technically, the House of Representatives does not exist. No one has been sworn in yet.

Vladimir Putin, who helped Trump become President in 2016, is pleased.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Incidentally, Steve Scalise, the deputy Republican leader, also endorsed Trump's bogus claim that the election was stolen from him.

Scalise, along with McCarthy, voted to reject Electoral College votes.

As the chaos continues in the House with no end in sight, this is today's Republican Party.

 

[Mach]

Jeffries didn't accept Trump's win in 2016 as legit & he supports Reparations.

That's it? Surely you have seen the modern Republican party right? That would make him the most normal/sane choice wouldn't it?

And neither of those things above would make it into any legislation, so why would it even matter, it's such a non-issue.