Guns are the problem...

[RF667799]

Guns don't cause crime, nor do they make people suicidal

But they're not the reasons why people want guns banned.

There doesn't seem to be a good reason.

 

[CLAX1911]

Guns don't cause crime, nor do they make people suicidal

But they're not the reasons why people want guns banned.

Right people want guns band because they support authoritarianism.

 

[Rich2018]

Right people want guns band because they support authoritarianism.

Left people also want bands. I like marching bands.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Right people want guns band because they support authoritarianism.

Authoritarians want guns banned because they plan to do things that would get them shot.

 

[Rich2018]

Authoritarians want guns banned because they plan to do things that would get them shot.

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What do the British and Japanese governments plan ?
In your opinion that is.

 

[JMB1911A1]

What do the British and Japanese governments plan ?
In your opinion that is.

I don’t give a **** an out the UK and Japan.

 

[Rich2018]

I don’t give a **** an out the UK and Japan.

Just Nazi Germany it appears.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Just Nazi Germany it appears.

Russia and the U.S. took care of that problem. The UK was along for the ride.

 

[Rich2018]

Russia and the U.S. took care of that problem. The UK was along for the ride.

...So you care about Nazi Germany and the old Soviet Union

Why don't you find a place to live like them ?

 

[CLAX1911]

Authoritarians want guns banned because they plan to do things that would get them shot.

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Absolutely. Everyone who wants guns banned is an enemy of the people.

 

[Rich2018]

Absolutely. Everyone who wants guns banned is an enemy of the people.

Nope, quite the reverse

Those who wants guns in society are an enemy of the people.

 

[RF667799]

Nope, quite the reverse

Those who wants guns in society are an enemy of the people.

The difference is that those who want to ban guns are opposed to Constitutional rights and civil liberties. So by definition, they are enemies of the people.

 

[CLAX1911]

The difference is that those who want to ban guns are opposed to Constitutional rights and civil liberties. So by definition, they are enemies of the people.

I don't argue with authoritarians on what's best for liberty.

 

[Toggle Almendro]

The Court said some regulation was possible.

They didn't mean that as permission to maliciously violate people's civil liberties for no reason.

 

[Rich2018]

I don't argue with authoritarians on what's best for liberty.

Nope, because in order to do so, one must posses an argument.

 

[Nickyjo]

They didn't mean that as permission to maliciously violate people's civil liberties for no reason.

That sentence is a bit over the top hysterical, dontcha think?

 

[Rich2018]

That sentence is a bit over the top hysterical.

Countries that ban guns are "police states" according to one poster on here.

 

[Toggle Almendro]

That sentence is a bit over the top hysterical, dontcha think?

No.

The fact that some degree of regulation is permitted is not license to maliciously violate people's civil liberties for no reason.

 

[Nickyjo]

No.

The fact that some degree of regulation is permitted is not license to maliciously violate people's civil liberties for no reason.

So someone who disagrees with you and proposed a restriction you oppose is malicious simply due to their proposal?

 

[Rich2018]

The fact that some degree of regulation is permitted is not license to maliciously violate people's civil liberties for no reason.

You're right

Except there is a reason - a shed load of reasons actually.

 

[Toggle Almendro]

So someone who disagrees with you and proposed a restriction you oppose is malicious simply due to their proposal?

That depends on what their proposal is. And, more importantly, on what their motivation is.

If the only reason for their proposed restriction is that they hate America and want to harm Americans, then yes, their proposal is malicious in nature.

 

[Rich2018]

That depends on what their proposal is. And, more importantly, on what their motivation is.

How about to ban guns in order to save lives ?

 

[RF667799]

Countries that ban guns are "police states" according to one poster on here.

You're always referencing imaginary strawmen.

 

[CLAX1911]

You're always referencing imaginary strawmen.

They'll gradually become police states. He missed that part. Look at UK they fined a man £12k for thinking the wrong thoughts in the wrong place.

Army Veteran fined for silent prayer | CARE

Bournemouth local authorities have fined a man for praying near an abortion facility.

care.org.uk

I think a place with thought crimes and censorship zones is slowly becoming a police state.

 

[hecatmoggie]

How about to ban guns in order to save lives ?

and why would a ban on guns "save" very many lives at all ?