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A gunman who killed his three daughters and another man in a church in Northern California was in the U.S. illegally, and had not been handed over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) after a prior arrest due to California’s "sanctuary state" law that limits cooperation with federal immigration enforcement, authorities said Friday.
Gunman who killed three daughters in California church was in US illegally
David Mora killed his three daughters and a chaperone for his visitation, before turning the gun on himself, authorities say.www.foxnews.com
Good job, California. Your coddling of illegals has cost the lives of 3 kids.
From our perspective it's a mistake - well, worse than a mistake, even a horrific mistake, it's sheer incompetence.This isn’t the first time criminal illegal aliens have murdered Americans. Joe’s open border policy ( sorry, it’s true) will cause more.
That’s the problem with commies. They don’t learn from mistakes. They just double down on idealistic insanity.
Yes, it isn't the first time, and every administration has had its share of such tragedies. Even the Orange Derp....This isn’t the first time criminal illegal aliens have murdered Americans. Joe’s open border policy ( sorry, it’s true) will cause more.
That’s the problem with commies. They don’t learn from mistakes. They just double down on idealistic insanity.
Would you feel better if the children were killed by a Green Card holder?A gunman who killed his three daughters and another man in a church in Northern California was in the U.S. illegally, and had not been handed over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) after a prior arrest due to California’s "sanctuary state" law that limits cooperation with federal immigration enforcement, authorities said Friday.
Gunman who killed three daughters in California church was in US illegally
David Mora killed his three daughters and a chaperone for his visitation, before turning the gun on himself, authorities say.www.foxnews.com
Good job, California. Your coddling of illegals has cost the lives of 3 kids.
Probably because Homeland Security's Chief Diversity Officer said "No, because that's an enforcement of systemic racism that is rampant in law enforcement in America".Why didn't ICE not arrest him instead of just issuing a detainer? They knew where he was living...
Probably because Homeland Security's Chief Diversity Officer said "No, because that's an enforcement of systemic racism that is rampant in law enforcement in America".
A gunman who killed his three daughters and another man in a church in Northern California was in the U.S. illegally, and had not been handed over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) after a prior arrest due to California’s "sanctuary state" law that limits cooperation with federal immigration enforcement, authorities said Friday.
Gunman who killed three daughters in California church was in US illegally
David Mora killed his three daughters and a chaperone for his visitation, before turning the gun on himself, authorities say.www.foxnews.com
Good job, California. Your coddling of illegals has cost the lives of 3 kids.
Exactly. This guy would have killed his kids, green card or not, for whatever evil reason he had decided to do so.Men track down/hold hostage and kill their families all the time, sadly. It's in the news weekly. Even cops. Often even after red flag laws have been triggered, despite restraining orders, etc. There's something very toxic there.
I agree it would have been great if the law hadnt enabled him to be free, if that's really the case. It seems that if there was an official social services chaperone assigned, he was still 'in the system' legitimately.
Were the daughters American Citizens?A gunman who killed his three daughters and another man in a church in Northern California was in the U.S. illegally, and had not been handed over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) after a prior arrest due to California’s "sanctuary state" law that limits cooperation with federal immigration enforcement, authorities said Friday.
Gunman who killed three daughters in California church was in US illegally
David Mora killed his three daughters and a chaperone for his visitation, before turning the gun on himself, authorities say.www.foxnews.com
Good job, California. Your coddling of illegals has cost the lives of 3 kids.
A gunman who killed his three daughters and another man in a church in Northern California was in the U.S. illegally, and had not been handed over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) after a prior arrest due to California’s "sanctuary state" law that limits cooperation with federal immigration enforcement, authorities said Friday.
Gunman who killed three daughters in California church was in US illegally
David Mora killed his three daughters and a chaperone for his visitation, before turning the gun on himself, authorities say.www.foxnews.com
Good job, California. Your coddling of illegals has cost the lives of 3 kids.
I can only blame President Donald J Trump!ICE did not respond to Fox News Digital's request for comment, but the agency told The Associated Press that Mora, a Mexican national, had overstayed his visa and was therefore in the country illegally. He arrived in the U.S. legally in 2018.
One more truly insane rant about everything other than the thread.How to test the credibility of this thread: ask how Roadvirus would react if someone took an equally dishonest partisan shot at the right, having taken advantage of a tragedy to do so.
Or you could ask where all his rage threads were regarding the GOP's moves to repeatedly blocked Democrat bills for mixed border security coupled with demands for a Great Wall of Derp - one that the actual people we're trying to keep out (not asylum seekers) have cut the thing to bits. Thousands of breaches. Many more climb right on over with ladders and ropes.
Y'know...things that were invented at the dawn of civilization. I'm sure a guy silent about all that stuff is feeling genuine rage at 'the left' over illegal immigration because of this article. I'm sure it's not just another ugly cheap shot.
Extra credit: What if someone on the left used this as a demand for more gun control? FFS, this is not about immigration no matter how much anyone wants to make it so. It's about an evil man.
And if you wanted to honestly try to make it about immigration, you'd compare crime rate states of illegals to citizens. You'd find them lower, unless perhaps Fox/OANN/Newsmax curated the states....
How to test the credibility of this thread: ask how Roadvirus would react if someone took an equally dishonest partisan shot at the right, having taken advantage of a tragedy to do so.
Or you could ask where all his rage threads were regarding the GOP's moves to repeatedly blocked Democrat bills for mixed border security coupled with demands for a Great Wall of Derp - one that the actual people we're trying to keep out (not asylum seekers) have cut the thing to bits. Thousands of breaches. Many more climb right on over with ladders and ropes.
Y'know...things that were invented at the dawn of civilization. I'm sure a guy silent about all that stuff is feeling genuine rage at 'the left' over illegal immigration because of this article. I'm sure it's not just another ugly cheap shot.
Extra credit: What if someone on the left used this as a demand for more gun control? FFS, this is not about immigration no matter how much anyone wants to make it so. It's about an evil man.
And if you wanted to honestly try to make it about immigration, you'd compare crime rate states of illegals to citizens. You'd find them lower, unless perhaps Fox/OANN/Newsmax curated the states....
You do realize that Biden's "open border policy" is pretty much the same as tRump's, right?This isn’t the first time criminal illegal aliens have murdered Americans. Joe’s open border policy ( sorry, it’s true) will cause more.
That’s the problem with commies. They don’t learn from mistakes. They just double down on idealistic insanity.
It was Trump's "open borders policy" that allowed David Fidel Mora Rojas into the united states in the first place.This isn’t the first time criminal illegal aliens have murdered Americans. Joe’s open border policy ( sorry, it’s true) will cause more.
That’s the problem with commies. They don’t learn from mistakes. They just double down on idealistic insanity.
"had not been handed over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) after a prior arrest due to California’s "sanctuary state" law that limits cooperation with federal immigration enforcement, authorities said Friday."It was Trump's "open borders policy" that allowed David Fidel Mora Rojas into the united states in the first place.
He arrived here on December 17, 2018 on an 180 day non-immigrant visa and depending if he had even bothered to renew that original visa he would have had to successfully renew it 5.5 times to still be here legally the day he murdered those innocent people. But we know he was allegedly not here legally any more.
Now here is something else to consider, ICE has other means at their disposal of knowing when a person of interest is going to be released other than sitting in their offices waiting for the Police department in question notifying them.
Not only that it was apparent, in the many hours of time I have been doing posting on all of this that in the past before the California VALUES Act went into practice that one of the problems was ICE and its predecessor not being diligent about picking up persons they wanted "holds" put on.
Now here is another thing, ICE has stated he was in the country illegally because of an "overstayed visa" violation. So the question is at what point in time did Rojas go out of compliance with his non-immigrant visa?
Was it on the end of the first one he had?
I am leaning in that direction. If that was the case then the Trump administration and ICE had 585 days to find and deport Rojas but if that was the case they failed to do so. If that was the case then the Biden administration and ICE failed for another 409 days to find and deport Rojas in order to prevent this killing.
I blame them both, seriously.
So if'n you all want to blame Joe Biden please be honest and blame Donald Trump as well, like I did here, OK?
Further we must ask why on GOD's green earth did the Judge, knowing all that was known about the man and his mental condition, not extend the protection order to the children as well as their mother? If that had happened Rojas would not have been visiting with them, legally, because he would not have been allowed.
Also in my backgrounding I saw where it was court ordered that he would only be allowed weekend visitation of 4 hour duration yet he was visiting with the children on a Monday when he killed them?
OK
Now this little segue will no doubt trigger some folk but meh, so be it!
On the 23rd of February Rojas was stopped and then arrested for suspected DUI, battery on a police officer, plus resisting arrest but was somehow able to make it to jail alive and able to post $15,000 bail and was released.
Where were the George Floyd arresting officers when they were really needed?
No it wasn't."had not been handed over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) after a prior arrest due to California’s "sanctuary state" law that limits cooperation with federal immigration enforcement, authorities said Friday."
Technically, it was that asshole Newsom's fault. Doesn't matter. Still a commie caused disaster.
California cant enforce immigration laws, thats the sole duty of the federal.A gunman who killed his three daughters and another man in a church in Northern California was in the U.S. illegally, and had not been handed over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) after a prior arrest due to California’s "sanctuary state" law that limits cooperation with federal immigration enforcement, authorities said Friday.
Gunman who killed three daughters in California church was in US illegally
David Mora killed his three daughters and a chaperone for his visitation, before turning the gun on himself, authorities say.www.foxnews.com
Good job, California. Your coddling of illegals has cost the lives of 3 kids.
Exactly.California cant enforce immigration laws, thats the sole duty of the federal.
Sacramento County court records show that, in May, Illeana Gutierrez Rios filed for a domestic violence restraining order against Mora, her then-boyfriend.
Warning signs, fears of violence before father killed his 3 kids at Sacramento-area church
Court records chronicle allegations of domestic abuse and warnings from the children's mother that David Mora was violent.www.latimes.com
or a citizen. Even police aren't immune to murder-suicide. The answer is better mental health care.Would you feel better if the children were killed by a Green Card holder?
No, technically it was Trump's immigration officers that failed to pick him up when he violated the terms of his visa in 2018."had not been handed over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) after a prior arrest due to California’s "sanctuary state" law that limits cooperation with federal immigration enforcement, authorities said Friday."
Technically, it was that asshole Newsom's fault. Doesn't matter. Still a commie caused disaster.
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