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A new proposal would require New Yorkers who want handgun licenses to undergo search engine and social media checks, including handing over log-in information and passwords to police.
State Sen. Kevin Parker, a Democrat representing Brooklyn, introduced the bill this month, according to the state legislature’s website. If signed into law, the legislation would impact those applying for or renewing their licenses to have a pistol or revolver.
Facebook, Snapchat, Twitter and Instagram are the social media platforms that would be scrutinized under the bill. Investigators would review applicants’ Google, Yahoo and Bing search results as well.
Text of the legislation says “the New York state police shall, after obtaining the licensee’s consent … and obtaining any log-in name, password or other means for accessing a personal account … review a licensee’s social media accounts for the previous three years and search engine history for the previous year.”
Under the bill, police are instructed to watch for posts that include profane slurs or biased language related to race, color, ancestry, gender, religion, age, disability and sexual orientation. Other red flags would include threats to other people and acts of terrorism that turn up in the search, the legislation said.
Critics said the bill opens the door for discrimination.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article222092570.html
Should Americans be Required to Give Police Their Social Media Passwords, or be Refused a License?
Other stories I've seen say they NY legislators want to expand the law if passed, to iinclude everyone who buys or already owns a gun.
Oh, sure. Right after we give our local police department our house keys to let them search through our homes and rifle through our belongings at their convenience. Only the guilty need fear anything, after all.
Vote bro!
Should Americans be Required to Give Police Their Social Media Passwords, or be Refused a License?
Other stories I've seen say the NY legislators want to expand the law if passed, to iinclude everyone who buys or already owns a gun.
Should Americans be Required to Give Police Their Social Media Passwords, or be Refused a License?
Other stories I've seen say the NY legislators want to expand the law if passed, to iinclude everyone who buys or already owns a gun.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article222092570.htmlFacebook, Snapchat, Twitter and Instagram are the social media platforms that would be scrutinized under the bill. Investigators would review applicants’ Google, Yahoo and Bing search results as well.
Text of the legislation says “the New York state police shall, after obtaining the licensee’s consent … and obtaining any log-in name, password or other means for accessing a personal account … review a licensee’s social media accounts for the previous three years and search engine history for the previous year.”
The stated purpose of the law is figure out whether anything on the applicants’ social media or search engine results present “good cause for the revocation of a license.”
Yes, why not? Many American companies require your social media keys before they hire you as part of a back ground check. If you are a wacko making threats on social media why should you be given a gun license? America's independence and privacy obsession should end where the rights of the public to safety begin. There are too many shooters who after the fact are said to have given red flag signals on social media. Why don't we give anyone a gun, no questions asked? That is what it amounts to in America today. You can have serious mental issues and not have a criminal record. It does not surprise me that so many Americans have no problem with giving anyone without a criminal record guns and permits.
Yes, why not? Many American companies require your social media keys before they hire you as part of a back ground check. If you are a wacko making threats on social media why should you be given a gun license? America's independence and privacy obsession should end where the rights of the public to safety begin. There are too many shooters who after the fact are said to have given red flag signals on social media. Why don't we give anyone a gun, no questions asked? That is what it amounts to in America today. You can have serious mental issues and not have a criminal record. It does not surprise me that so many Americans have no problem with giving anyone without a criminal record guns and permits.
The police are not allowed to pass sentence (or to declare folks to have "mental issues") for a very good reason - folks have a constituional right to due process of law. As to that (bolded above) assertion - how many "red flag signalling shooters" have been issued CCW permits?
I think due process would be provided under any law that might be passed. It wouldn't stand constitutional examination if it didn't. The Pittsburg Synagogue shooter left rants against Jews on social media. I can't answer a question for which there are no solid answers. The CDC has been given the green light to compile gun violence data after many years of being blocked from doing so. Maybe in a few more years of murder and mayhem we will begin to see patterns that no solid evidence is available to look at now. The right cries mental health is the issue then cries foul if a jurisdiction wants to use a tool that might catch people with mental health issues and no criminal record. Social media checks are common all across America.
I think due process would be provided under any law that might be passed. It wouldn't stand constitutional examination if it didn't. The Pittsburg Synagogue shooter left rants against Jews on social media. I can't answer a question for which there are no solid answers. The CDC has been given the green light to compile gun violence data after many years of being blocked from doing so. Maybe in a few more years of murder and mayhem we will begin to see patterns that no solid evidence is available to look at now. The right cries mental health is the issue then cries foul if a jurisdiction wants to use a tool that might catch people with mental health issues and no criminal record. Social media checks are common all across America.
Catch them how? All this proposed law would do is to deny (some few?) folks permission to legally carry a concealed gun based on the 'judgement' of someone not certified in judging mental health.
Oh...come on. What is due process if not a right to be examined by a proper mental health official? If mental health is the issue. We don't know the details of the proposed law in New York State so can only endlessly speculate. Both the Synagogue shooter and the Parkland Florida shooter made disturbing social media posts well prior to their crimes. I have no idea if red flag laws might have prevented their crimes or denied them the AR15 type weapons they used.
The NY proposal mentions police, not "mental health officials" (whoever they might be), as the one's given the power to demand access to an applicant's "social media" account passwords. It contained no mention of a judge making the decision as to whether one's (private?) "social media" activity indicated any 'mental health' "concerns" (also not specifically limited to being a danger to themselves or others). The intent seems quite clear - scare folks into not applying for a CCW permit by demanding that they allow police to examine their personal "social media" content or lose their non-refundable CCW permit application fee.
I haven't seen any details of the proposed New York State Law. If you have good for you. I think its for the people of New York State to decide.
No, absolutely not. This law is basically "If you've ever committed any crime, regardless of how minor, and were stupid enough to post about it on social media, you don't get to own a handgun.
No there's a reason why profile is not public lol, why can't we disarm selfs live in a peace world, why not use sarcasm to kill it's really effective
It would be best to see them before you try to tout its alleged merits. Would you favor letting (police?) "officials" view one's social media data (as part of a "voluntary" BGC?) in order to decide if they are "mentally fit" to register to vote, run for office or get a public service job? If we allow (police?) "officials" to decide who among us may fully exercise their constitutional rights then we have ceded far too much power to government.
I think due process would be provided under any law that might be passed. It wouldn't stand constitutional examination if it didn't. The Pittsburg Synagogue shooter left rants against Jews on social media. I can't answer a question for which there are no solid answers. The CDC has been given the green light to compile gun violence data after many years of being blocked from doing so. Maybe in a few more years of murder and mayhem we will begin to see patterns that no solid evidence is available to look at now. The right cries mental health is the issue then cries foul if a jurisdiction wants to use a tool that might catch people with mental health issues and no criminal record. Social media checks are common all across America.
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