Gun control is damn near the equivalent of car control

[CLAX1911]

This meme seems more and more appropriate when "debating" the gun control crowd.

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They don't hate the Nazis for what they did they hate them for having the power that they had. I'm gun control types want that power but pretend that they would use it for good just like the Nazis thought they were doing.

That's good I can't remember who did it where an English guy is pretending to be a Nazi he asks are we the baddies they never had that for myself reflection because the Nazis were a lot like a gun control people they wanted ultimate authority because they thought they should be the arbiters of Justice.

 

[rahl]

I agree all guns are for committing violence.

Oh boy. What violence is a browning BT99 designed to commit violence for?

You have literally argued they act as violence multipliers.

They can be USED as violence multiplies. Just like softball bats can.

 

[rahl]

Strong men don't need guns.

You don’t get a say in who needs guns.

 

[Nickyjo]

What is a similar society and what makes them similar you'd be specific please.

So wealthy countries make them similar societies so we need to try and be more like the UAE?

The general terms of comparison to the US in areas like health care, crime, et al. are prosperous western democracies, like Canada and Western Europe, and even Australia and New Zealand at times.

 

[rahl]

The general terms of comparison to the US in areas like health care, crime, et al. are prosperous western democracies, like Canada and Western Europe, and even Australia and New Zealand at times.

Sorry, you aren’t allowed to cherry pick. As the data clearly shows, which is why you are forced to cherry pick, is that guns are irrelevant to homicide and suicide rates. This simple, demonstrable, objective fact of reality crushes your ideological beliefs.

 

[CLAX1911]

The general terms of comparison to the US in areas like health care, crime, et al. are prosperous western democracies, like Canada and Western Europe, and even Australia and New Zealand at times.

First all of the Nations you listed only are developed to the stage that they are because of the US if we weren't here they would all still be at war with each other so the US is more developed than all of these places and this bears out in the fact that none of these places have rights you have no rights in Canada you can be arrested for saying words that here wouldn't be considered criminal that's closer to despotism that is less developed.

These are the places I stay away from because I don't want to live and that morass of decay. If you do go live there go rot and those cesspools that's your business quit trying to shit in our pool.

 

[CLAX1911]

Sorry, you aren’t allowed to cherry pick.

Actually kind of like the honesty all the countries that are rolling back rights because you have no means of enforcing your rights he thinks are more developed so he thinks removal of freedoms and removal of liberties is development.

As the data clearly shows, which is why you are forced to cherry pick, is that guns are irrelevant to homicide and suicide rates. This simple, demonstrable, objective fact of reality crushes your ideological beliefs.

Well the gun debate really isn't about guns it's about taking away rights to become a despot regime.

The dictator of Canada tried to order everyone driving a truck through Canada to get a so-called vaccine that they should have had a choice about and when he refused to acquiesce truck drivers parts of their trucks in the capital and began using their assets.

She's saying a country with a dictator is more developed. I guess if you elect a dictator it somehow better.

 

[The Brad Dad]

You don’t get a say in who needs guns.

Hysterical.

 

[Nickyjo]

Sorry, you aren’t allowed to cherry pick. As the data clearly shows, which is why you are forced to cherry pick, is that guns are irrelevant to homicide and suicide rates. This simple, demonstrable, objective fact of reality crushes your ideological beliefs.

I don’t get it. Societies that have fewer guns around have fewer gun deaths. I don’t insist that is the only factor, but those who object to my thesis seem to posit that guns play no role at all.

Search this topic and you will find several organizations, both government and non-governmental that support my argument.

 

[The Brad Dad]

They can be USED as violence multiplies. Just like softball bats can.

Ah, another who believes there's no difference between a gun and a bat.

 

[CLAX1911]

I don’t get it.

You said a country with a dictator that trampled all over human rights is somehow as developed as our nation you don't have a good grasp on what development means.

So any appeal to developed countries from you is no annoyed because you pick despotic regimes with dictators and no respect for human rights as emulation

Societies that have fewer guns around have fewer gun deaths.

Go live there if it's so great what the hell are you doing here. You want to live under a dick too by all means go do it.

I don’t insist that is the only factor, but those who object to my thesis seem to posit that guns play no role at all.

I think the role they play in making government of agents to afraid to do what Canada did to its citizens is worth the cost.

I would rather work and dangerous and Liberty that peaceful slavery.

If you want to be a slave you've got the whole rest of the world quit trying to tear us down with it. You don't have to pretend to be like the popular kids you can go be one.

 

[Nickyjo]

You said a country with a dictator that trampled all over human rights is somehow as developed as our nation you don't have a good grasp on what development means.

So any appeal to developed countries from you is no annoyed because you pick despotic regimes with dictators and no respect for human rights as emulation

Go live there if it's so great what the hell are you doing here. You want to live under a dick too by all means go do it.

I think the role they play in making government of agents to afraid to do what Canada did to its citizens is worth the cost.

I would rather work and dangerous and Liberty that peaceful slavery.

If you want to be a slave you've got the whole rest of the world quit trying to tear us down with it. You don't have to pretend to be like the popular kids you can go be one.

Canada is a slave society? And why should I move? I’d rather work to make the US safer.

 

[CLAX1911]

Canada is a slave society?

They're closer to it than we are you don't have any rights at all in Canada. If you can't use Force in the form of shooting somebody who threatens your rights you have no rights at all

And why should I move?

Because that's already the country you want I pause it you stay here because it's better.

I’d rather work to make the US safer.

Then you should support gun ownership as many people as possible own guns lawfully. That's how you stay safe cuz when you're scared and you get on the phone to call somebody to come protect you who do you call social workers are people with guns?

And if it's only the police that get to have guns that is a police state and they don't keep you safe anymore they oppress you we've seen it happen thousands of times through history and you just want to rush into that same exact mistake again because you think somehow you figured it out.

 

[Nickyjo]

They're closer to it than we are you don't have any rights at all in Canada. If you can't use Force in the form of shooting somebody who threatens your rights you have no rights at all

Because that's already the country you want I pause it you stay here because it's better.

Then you should support gun ownership as many people as possible own guns lawfully. That's how you stay safe cuz when you're scared and you get on the phone to call somebody to come protect you who do you call social workers are people with guns?

And if it's only the police that get to have guns that is a police state and they don't keep you safe anymore they oppress you we've seen it happen thousands of times through history and you just want to rush into that same exact mistake again because you think somehow you figured it out.

So all those western towns, e.g., Tombstone, that banned guns, had it wrong? And all those European countries with fewer guns and fewer homicides have it wrong? US has had it wrong when it has banned certain types of firearms, and doesn’t allow guns on airplanes? Earlier today I attended a wedding in San Francisco City Hall and had to pass through a metal detector. There is no need for these deprivations of liberty, thus last infringement on my right to bear arms?

 

[RF667799]

I don’t get it. Societies that have fewer guns around have fewer gun deaths. I don’t insist that is the only factor, but those who object to my thesis seem to posit that guns play no role at all.

Search this topic and you will find several organizations, both government and non-governmental that support my argument.

Did you know that societies that have fewer motorcycles have fewer motorcycles deaths?

Yes, people are sometimes killed using motorcycles or guns. Very few using guns though, relative to population.

 

[RF667799]

So all those western towns, e.g., Tombstone, that banned guns, had it wrong? And all those European countries with fewer guns and fewer homicides have it wrong? US has had it wrong when it has banned certain types of firearms, and doesn’t allow guns on airplanes? Earlier today I attended a wedding in San Francisco City Hall and had to pass through a metal detector. There is no need for these deprivations of liberty, thus last infringement on my right to bear arms?

Yes, those European countries have it wrong. Unless their general populations are just so bloodthirsty that they can't be trusted with guns. Hell..in Germany you have to jump through hoops to simply go fishing. **** all that noise.

 

[Nickyjo]

Did you know that societies that have fewer motorcycles have fewer motorcycles deaths?

Yes, people are sometimes killed using motorcycles or guns. Very few using guns though, relative to population.

Stunning logic.

 

[CLAX1911]

So all those western towns, e.g., Tombstone, that banned guns, had it wrong?

You mean the town that became a police state showed that the Earth's caught just murder anybody they called the cowboys. No judge no jury no executioner yes that's what you want just authorities being able to murder anyone they want that's Canada that's what you think it's developed so wild West

And all those European countries with fewer guns and fewer homicides have it wrong?

Can you get arrested for speech Yes they have it wrong remember these are the people that do genocide every couple of decades. Did they kill like 120 million people last century.

This crap they're doing is what not to be that's why we had a revolution. And why we haven't really ever done a genocide anywhere close to the scale of Europe has multiple times in the history.

US has had it wrong when it has banned certain types of firearms, and doesn’t allow guns on airplanes?

Yes. Do you remember when terrorists killed the 3,000 people on one day because they had box cutters. And yes the Lord saying that only criminals get to have these guns to shoot you with that's wrong.

Earlier today I attended a wedding in San Francisco City Hall and had to pass through a metal detector. There is no need for these deprivations of liberty, thus last infringement on my right to bear arms?

No there isn't the need for it that's authoritarianism. You don't get to bring a gun into our special little place where we get to arrest you and beat you and possibly kill you that's what that is.

Whenever the government says you can't have a weapon they're necessarily saying if they get to use that weapon against you.

So yeah the wild west was backward wild shit hole and that's Canada and your stupid City Hall shit show.

Did you feel safe because the government was empowered to slay you? If that safety moved to North Korea they already have the whole world do you want why are you opposed to that you should think that's heaven on Earth it's already what you want go live there.

 

[Nickyjo]

You mean the town that became a police state showed that the Earth's caught just murder anybody they called the cowboys. No judge no jury no executioner yes that's what you want just authorities being able to murder anyone they want that's Canada that's what you think it's developed so wild West

Can you get arrested for speech Yes they have it wrong remember these are the people that do genocide every couple of decades. Did they kill like 120 million people last century.

This crap they're doing is what not to be that's why we had a revolution. And why we haven't really ever done a genocide anywhere close to the scale of Europe has multiple times in the history.

Yes. Do you remember when terrorists killed the 3,000 people on one day because they had box cutters. And yes the Lord saying that only criminals get to have these guns to shoot you with that's wrong.

No there isn't the need for it that's authoritarianism. You don't get to bring a gun into our special little place where we get to arrest you and beat you and possibly kill you that's what that is.

Whenever the government says you can't have a weapon they're necessarily saying if they get to use that weapon against you.

So yeah the wild west was backward wild shit hole and that's Canada and your stupid City Hall shit show.

Did you feel safe because the government was empowered to slay you? If that safety moved to North Korea they already have the whole world do you want why are you opposed to that you should think that's heaven on Earth it's already what you want go live there.

Ok, I am sure that Congress would welcome guns in the House and Senate galleries. And of course there was Archie Bunker’s suggestion about airplanes (I think it was Archie). He proposed that flight attendants distribute handguns to each passenger prior to takeoff. Who could argue with that way of making air travel more safe?

 

[RF667799]

Stunning logic.

Not logic. Facts. What logical conclusion do you draw from those facts?

 

[CLAX1911]

Yes, those European countries have it wrong.

I can't for the life of me understand how someone can look at a place that had ovens that roasted people alive by the millions and say that that's more advanced than us we don't have Holocaust remnants in our country. Definitely not from the 20th century.

Unless their general populations are just so bloodthirsty that they can't be trusted with guns.

They can't have guns because every century or so the government has to kill them All harder to kill people that can shoot back.

Hell..in Germany you have to jump through hoops to simply go fishing. **** all that noise.

 

[CLAX1911]

Stunning logic.

Yeah why don't we be more like the people who just last century had Mussolini a day off Hitler and have oven still in existence where they burned people today got so much more advanced.

But hey if the government kills 120 million people by burning them to death at least they weren't shot right?

 

[RF667799]

Yeah why don't we be more like the people who just last century had Mussolini a day off Hitler and have oven still in existence where they burned people today got so much more advanced.

But hey if the government kills 120 million people by burning them to death at least they weren't shot right?

Early on, shooting was the preferred method by which the Nazis carried out their horrors.

 

[CLAX1911]

Early on, shooting was the preferred method by which the Nazis carried out their horrors.

So easy to do when nobody can shoot back at you.

 

[RF667799]

I can't for the life of me understand how someone can look at a place that had ovens that roasted people alive by the millions and say that that's more advanced than us we don't have Holocaust remnants in our country. Definitely not from the 20th century.

They can't have guns because every century or so the government has to kill them All harder to kill people that can shoot back.

Yeah, I get a kick out of them waxing on about how peaceful the people are in Europe because they have few guns.

Every so often, their governments hand out guns and have them get at killing each other en masse.