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Gun control is damn near the equivalent of car control

Fearandloathing said:
Simple.

I deal with it and have for over 25 years by NEVER entering the Excited States of Assassins.

I simply don't go there.

In 1999, a friend returned home from a shopping trip with a 3" hole in the side of his car. A bullet had been fired into the car (brand new Nissan) from a hard angle going away from the shooter.

With police assistance we determined it was a .45 caliber bullet likely from a hand gun. Was told "someone doesn't like Canadians".

Other than to change planes, I have not set foot on American soil since, and won't.
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First of frankly you staying out of my country is good to hear.
Second I wonder if anyone actually believes your silly “story”
 
Fearandloathing said:
36.7 incidents per 100,000 population.

Compared to the US?

Compared to Brazil?

UK?


I think we'll forget you.
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Poor canada. Always wanting to pretend there are a country that matters. But so far from that goal.
 
americanwoman said:
It's a good thing automatic weapons are illegal and harder to get. Look at one mass shooting that used those, 2017 Las Vegas that had converted guns to fully automatic and was the worst US mass shooting ever, killing 58 and wounding 546.

So I say that the legislation banning automatic weapons does work. Or what, do you want to see higher body counts?
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Might want to do a little bit of research before making such silly claims. Otherwise you just look rather uneducated.
 
americanwoman said:
Sorry, I guess I should have known better than to trust a police officer and the facts. Perhaps you can prove that cop wrong with evidence Paddock didn't modify his weapons to allow a semi automatic to perform like a fully automatic one.

www.cbsnews.com

Former Las Vegas officer says modified semi-automatic guns show "greater intent"

Police say the shooter who gunned down concertgoers in Las Vegas Sunday night had 23 guns in his Mandalay Bay hotel room
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
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Yes you should have because that cop clearly doesn’t know what he is talking about.

Hate to break it to you but even with a bump stock on a semiautomatic weapon you still need you pull the trigger for every shot.
 
americanwoman said:
Yes, I messed up the first post and said convert instead of modify but it's still a fact Stephen Paddock used modifications to turn a semi-automatic gun into one that acts like a fully automatic one and that is the main reason it was the deadliest mass shooting in American history.

www.newsweek.com

Devices That Gun Enthusiasts Use to Make Weapons Faster

Stephen Paddock used two "bump-stocks" to carry out the worst mass shooting in U.S. history, officials said.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
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You need to find better sources.
A bump stock does not convert a a semiautomatic into an automatic weapon.

Had he actually aimed his weapon instead of using a bump stock the death count would likely have been much higher. The majority of his rounds hit no one

Fully automatic weapons are not outlawed.

That three lies in the single paragraph you quoted.
Tell me why do you believe a source that so blatantly lies to you.
 
CLAX1911 said:
What difference does it make how fast the gun can fire if you can shoot and kill somebody with a revolver I don't get the point of being upset about this.

Even in a battlefield a machine gun isn't effective at taking out people it's meant to make them duck.
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Sorry but no, machine guns are pretty effective at taking people out.
 
Spock said:
Federal regulation FFA 34 and OPA 86 influences availability, requires special permit and tax, and prevents new manufacture.
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Which is the opposite of illegal.
 
Spock said:
There are lots of ways to have them in possession illegally, so your statement is misleading. They are not available for purchase "legally" as most other commercially available mass market firearms.
Given the different regulations, the reality is that automatic weapons are effectively prohibited by complex statute.
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Even for you this argument is pretty stupid. And that is saying a lot.
 
Spock said:
As usual you do not read.
Until they can be purchased at Cabela's, they are NOT "commercially available mass market firearms".
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And yet still 100% legal to own. Making the claim that they are illegal to own an outright lie.

But I have no doubt you will try and pretend otherwise.
 
Spock said:
You do not seem to understand even that simple concept of "wrong", if you cannot explain how firearms can be "legal" and "illegal" depending upon the details.
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It’s funny you think this doesn’t make you look look either incredibly ignorant or just very dishonest.

Automatic weapons are not illegal to own. That is a 100% fact. Not amount of you trying to weasel around that will change the fact that you got caught posting bs.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Simple.

I deal with it and have for over 25 years by NEVER entering the Excited States of Assassins.

I simply don't go there.

In 1999, a friend returned home from a shopping trip with a 3" hole in the side of his car. A bullet had been fired into the car (brand new Nissan) from a hard angle going away from the shooter.
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A 3" hole he parked on an artillery range that's not a gun that does not unless it's the gun that shoots soda cans.
Fearandloathing said:
With police assistance we determined it was a .45 caliber bullet likely from a hand gun.
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No it wasn't. A 45 caliber would leave a 45 caliber hole which is less than half an inch.

If you found a 3-in hole in the side of your car and the police officer says anything but that was a 3-inch gun they don't know what they're talking about

Half inch projectiles do not make 3-in holes
Fearandloathing said:
Was told "someone doesn't like Canadians".

Other than to change planes, I have not set foot on American soil since, and won't.
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Yeah every bit about this is a lie I don't believe anything you said.

Are you going to fabricate stories like this learn the capabilities of the firearms you're talking about
 
CLAX1911 said:
A 3" hole he parked on an artillery range that's not a gun that does not unless it's the gun that shoots soda cans.

No it wasn't. A 45 caliber would leave a 45 caliber hole which is less than half an inch.

If you found a 3-in hole in the side of your car and the police officer says anything but that was a 3-inch gun they don't know what they're talking about

Half inch projectiles do not make 3-in holes

Yeah every bit about this is a lie I don't believe anything you said.

Are you going to fabricate stories like this learn the capabilities of the firearms you're talking about
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Maybe it was 9mm FMJ. Joe says those will “blow the lungs out of the body”.

www.newsweek.com

Joe Biden Says 9mm Bullet 'Blows The Lung Out of The Body'

The president made the comments a day after visiting grieving families in Uvalde, Texas, where 19 children and two teachers were killed in a mass shooting.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com

Why do gun control advocates seem to revel in their ignorance?
 
braindrain said:
Sorry but no, machine guns are pretty effective at taking people out.
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Only if they're dumb enough to stand there and get shot. Did you know Australia had a war against emus and lost even though they had machine guns to shoot them down.

Turns out an emu with its little Walnut sized brain nose to get out of the way when it hears a gunfire so people do as well
 
braindrain said:
Which is the opposite of illegal.
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Narrowly prescribe conditions of use or availability does not equate to the generic legitimization of automatic weapons.
Grenades are used by the military. Does that make them "legal"?
 
braindrain said:
And yet still 100% legal to own. Making the claim that they are illegal to own an outright lie.

But I have no doubt you will try and pretend otherwise.
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I understand that you want to communicate that automatic weapons are no different from semi-automatic weapons. That is incorrect.
 
braindrain said:
It’s funny you think this doesn’t make you look look either incredibly ignorant or just very dishonest.

Automatic weapons are not illegal to own. That is a 100% fact. Not amount of you trying to weasel around that will change the fact that you got caught posting bs.
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Automatic weapons are equivalent to cannons, dynamite, mortars, grenades and tanks which can be owned under specific permitting processes. That does not make them equivalent, as you wish to imply, to commercially available over the counter firearms.
 
Spock said:
Narrowly prescribe conditions of use or availability does not equate to the generic legitimization of automatic weapons.
Grenades are used by the military. Does that make them "legal"?
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Automatic firearms are legally used by civilians.
 
Spock said:
Automatic weapons are equivalent to cannons, dynamite, mortars, grenades and tanks which can be owned under specific permitting processes. That does not make them equivalent, as you wish to imply, to commercially available over the counter firearms.
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Commercially available firearms are only available over the counter if one passes a specific permitting process.

Did you not have to undergo a background check the last firearm you bought over the counter?
 
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