Gun control is damn near the equivalent of car control

[JMB1911A1]

CDC was not allowed to research firearm deaths.

Repeating your lie doesn’t make it true.

The CDC researched firearms deaths in 2013. The law prevented gun control advocacy not research.

Black people arent inanimate objects.

BTW your racism is showing again.

If you don’t believe in amendments, don’t babble about being law abiding. Do better.

 

[ataraxia]

No it isn’t.

You haven’t supported your assertion firearms are designed to kill. Only that they can used to kill.

Target practice is just practice so you can kill real living things when the need arises. You don't kill living things so you can get better at target practice.

 

[The Brad Dad]

So, how did the Obama CDC do a firearm study in 2013 that concluded that self defense uses range from 500k to 3 million per a year (average of that would be ~1.7 million)?

Oh wait, you lied. Because the law never prevented research. It prevented gun control advocacy.

I guess when you don’t know anything, lying comes easier to you.

Obama finally lifted the ban and that researfhed showed homifides are much more likely in households with guns. “Defensive uses” is a made up stat from a garbage study by Klerk.

Since you acknowledged Obama lifted the ban, you are admitting you lied when you said there wasn’t one.

 

[RF667799]

Yeah, that's some bullshit, given the supremacy clause.

I mean, I agree it happens, but it's bullshit.

I have no problem with states regulating what sort of guns can be used to take specific game, or localities having ordinances against firing guns in congested areas.

I don't even have much problem with states requiring minimal, cheap, shall issue licensing to carry a gun in public for use in self defense.

 

[Hamish Howl]

I have no problem with states regulating what sort of guns can be used to take specific game, or localities having ordinances against firing guns in congested areas.

I don't even have much problem with states requiring minimal, cheap, shall issue licensing to carry a gun in public for use in self defense.

I do. The language of the second amendment is very clear.

 

[RF667799]

Zzzzzz

As I said...

 

[The Brad Dad]

Repeating your lie doesn’t make it true.

The CDC researched firearms deaths in 2013. The law prevented gun control advocacy not research.

BTW your racism is showing again.

Your racism believes that black people and guns are the same thing.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Your gun is kept with the ammo. That's not safe. Don't like it? Too bad. You're not safe with firearms by your own standards.

A nightstand =/= a safe.

But, you can’t admit you lied about what I said.

Pathetic, truly pathetic.

And didn’t you state that you were too mentally unstable to be around firearms? So, why should I take your advice on something you know less than nothing about?

 

[The Brad Dad]

If an amendment is passed repealing 2A, it means Americans dont agree owning a gun is a right. Just correcting an error by the founders. If hate our constitutional process, just argue that.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Your racism believes that black people and guns are the same thing.

I never said that. But your continual lying is a good look.

 

[Scatty Kitty]

A nightstand =/= a safe.

But, you can’t admit you lied about what I said.

Pathetic, truly pathetic.

And didn’t you state that you were too mentally unstable to be around firearms? So, why should I take your advice on something you know less than nothing about?

You keeping your gun... with the ammo is what's unsafe. You don't have to like it, but that's what's unsafe.

And yeah I shouldn't be allowed near firearms because I can't be safe with them. Not sure why you would think me realizing that is a bad thing?

 

[RF667799]

I do. The language of the second amendment is very clear.

So was the language of SCOTUS when they noted that such usage regulations don't infringe on the right.

I should be able to buy and possess an AR-15 in 5.56. But if my state disallows using that caliber to hunt deer, that's their business. I can still have and use the gun for other purposes.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Obama finally lifted the ban and that researfhed showed homifides are much more likely in households with guns. “Defensive uses” is a made up stat from a garbage study by Klerk.

Since you acknowledged Obama lifted the ban, you are admitting you lied when you said there wasn’t one.

Dude, you really need to do research so you don’t keep getting caught in your lies.

The Dickey Amendment was not repealed till 2018 when President TRUMP was in office. Funding started in 2020.

So, the 2013 study was done while the Dickey Amendment was in full effect.

Another lie of @The Brad Dad exposed. It is almost too easy.

Dickey Amendment - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[JMB1911A1]

You keeping your gun... with the ammo is what's unsafe. You don't have to like it, but that's what's unsafe.

No it isn’t. And you admit that you don’t know anything about firearms.

And yeah I shouldn't be allowed near firearms because I can't be safe with them. Not sure why you would think me realizing that is a bad thing?

 

[RF667799]

That's what they were first designed and used for.

"The first firearms originated in 10th-century China, when bamboo tubes containing gunpowder and pellet projectiles were mounted on spears to make the portable fire lance,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm#cite_note-Helaine-4"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a> operable by a single person, which was later used effectively as a shock weapon in the siege of De'an in 1132."

Firearm - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You think these 10th century guys designed them primarily for target practice as a weekend hobby?

If that's your criteria, then you must agree that jet aircraft are categorically designed for killing people, since that was their first use.

And that is nowhere near as speculative as your claim about the first guns.

So any criteria led to your conclusion other than speculation about some ancient Chinese guys?

Post #426 has links to the evidence showing that it does.

 

[The Brad Dad]

Dude, you really need to do research so you don’t keep getting caught in your lies.

The Dickey Amendment was not repealed till 2018 when President TRUMP was in office. Funding started in 2020.

So, the 2013 study was done while the Dickey Amendment was in full effect.

Another lie of @The Brad Dad exposed. It is almost too easy.

Dickey Amendment - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

CHecks out LOL

 

[The Brad Dad]

You keeping your gun... with the ammo is what's unsafe. You don't have to like it, but that's what's unsafe.

And yeah I shouldn't be allowed near firearms because I can't be safe with them. Not sure why you would think me realizing that is a bad thing?

Because if people who shouldn't have guns can't get them, who is going to shoot up all our schools??

 

[dairyair]

Yep.

Again, you do not have evidence. May "bear" is to display as in military formation.

Your opinion is not legal opinion.

bear to display? That's a new one.

I didn't give my opinion.
Maybe you have a definition that is 100% objective. Doubtful. Else you would have posted that objective definition that can never be subjected to views or the times of the day.

If violation of rights were so objective, we'd not need courts to hear cases to determine if rights have been infringed.
...

1
: to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another
infringe a patent

 

[Scatty Kitty]

No it isn’t. And you admit that you don’t know anything about firearms.

"Another important thing to consider while storing ammunition in a gun safe is that it should be kept separately from guns. You may wonder, Why store ammo and guns separately if it's in a safe? First and foremost, it lowers the risk that your kids or other family members who have access to your safe can load your guns with ammo. It is also critical to prevent unauthorized people from taking advantage of your gun while also loading it with your ammunition."

How to Store Ammo in a Gun Safe | Gun Safes Blog | The Safe Keeper

How to store ammo in a gun safe - learn the safest way to store ammo in a gun safe to protect it from fire, moisture, and damage. Discover expert tips on choosing fireproof safes, proper storage containers, and humidity control for long-lasting ammunition.

www.thesafekeeper.com

"Unload all ammunition before storing your guns in a locked gun safe. The National Rifle Association (NRA) recommends that guns be stored unloaded until you need to use them."

Safely Storing Guns and Ammunition in Your Home

If you choose to keep guns and ammunition in your house, it’s important to store them safely. Learn how to safely store your guns and ammunition.

www.massgeneral.org

"

ALWAYS Keep The Gun Unloaded Until Ready To Use"​

NRA Gun Safety Rules

At the NRA, firearm education and safety is paramount—that’s why we offer a variety of programs and services to promote the safe handling, use and storage of firearms.

gunsafetyrules.nra.org

Ten bucks says that if I were to go to your local police department's, department of health or a local hospitals website and scroll to the advise they give on gun safety, they would tell you the same thing too.

Because if people who shouldn't have guns can't get them, who is going to shoot up all our schools??

 

[Scatty Kitty]

Because if people who shouldn't have guns can't get them, who is going to shoot up all our schools??

"I hate those gun hating leftists because they take enraged gun nut jobs away from my community. Somebody has to shoot up our schools and it's going to be me!"-a random conservative probably.

 

[dairyair]

Are you asking how to prevent suicide and self harm? Because one of the best strategies used is denial of means. You literally deny someone the means with which they harm themselves.



Hey listen if you don't want to follow universal gun safety rules that's fine, just admit you don't want to follow universal gun safety laws. Ammo and guns are always stored and locked separately to avoid accidental discharge, because as the NRA puts it, even mechanical locks on guns can fail.

Nothing at all to do with suicide.

I have said nothing about being against any rules.

 

[The Brad Dad]

"I hate those gun hating leftists because they take enraged gun nut jobs away from my community. Somebody has to shoot up our schools and it's going to be me!"-a random conservative probably.

ROFLMAO If they had lived the Columbine shooters would have been featured speakers at an RNC by now.

 

[Scatty Kitty]

Nothing at all to do with suicide.

You mean shooting yourself with a gun has nothing to do with suicide?

I have said nothing about being against any rules.

That was towards JMB19911A.

 

[Scatty Kitty]

ROFLMAO If they had lived the Columbine shooters would have been featured speakers at an RNC by now.

I mean they were just as much of a Nazis as most GOPers are today.

 

[RF667799]

"Another important thing to consider while storing ammunition in a gun safe is that it should be kept separately from guns. You may wonder, Why store ammo and guns separately if it's in a safe? First and foremost, it lowers the risk that your kids or other family members who have access to your safe can load your guns with ammo. It is also critical to prevent unauthorized people from taking advantage of your gun while also loading it with your ammunition."

How to Store Ammo in a Gun Safe | Gun Safes Blog | The Safe Keeper

How to store ammo in a gun safe - learn the safest way to store ammo in a gun safe to protect it from fire, moisture, and damage. Discover expert tips on choosing fireproof safes, proper storage containers, and humidity control for long-lasting ammunition.

www.thesafekeeper.com

Oh look. A company that sells gun safes recommends you buy multiples.

Do you separate your prescription meds into quantities of less than lethal dose, and store them in separate safes?

"Unload all ammunition before storing your guns in a locked gun safe. The National Rifle Association (NRA) recommends that guns be stored unloaded until you need to use them."

Safely Storing Guns and Ammunition in Your Home

If you choose to keep guns and ammunition in your house, it’s important to store them safely. Learn how to safely store your guns and ammunition.

www.massgeneral.org

"

ALWAYS Keep The Gun Unloaded Until Ready To Use"​

NRA Gun Safety Rules

At the NRA, firearm education and safety is paramount—that’s why we offer a variety of programs and services to promote the safe handling, use and storage of firearms.

gunsafetyrules.nra.org

Ten bucks says that if I were to go to your local police department's, department of health or a local hospitals website and scroll to the advise they give on gun safety, they would tell you the same thing too.

The local police here would tell you that a gun being used for self defense is a gun in use.