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Rich2018 said:
As he says, with modern ammunition, the terminal ballistics are almost the same

And that if you can't kill something with a 9mm (or a 45 ACP) you need a rifle.
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again, we are on the same page.
 
TurtleDude said:
no, there are just better choices. For the USPSA limited division, 40's rule
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"40's Suck" was the title of Yaeger's video

He seems to make the case that there are no positive reasons for buying a handgun in 40 caliber (except for low price as they're ditched by owners)

And there are several reasons NOT to guy one.
 
Individual said:
Our opinions of this law differ, but I don't know if there are any cases of convictions to be found on the Net or not.

If there are no convictions ever made resulting from the charge, then why complain?
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Charged, Conviction, Execution

Nathaniel Woods was convicted under the accomplice law. He's now facing death

Charged

https://www.chicagotribune.com/subu...0200407-mhgurji635b37hghgalk4cnrdu-story.html

Charged, Convicted

Assailant found guilty by Tulsa County jurors of felony murder in accomplice's shooting death by victim | Crime News | tulsaworld.com

Feel free to refer these to Rich2018 so he can't lie about not seeing them.
 
Rich2018 said:
I don't read his posts (for some reason he keeps replying to me and I do my best to just ignore him)

Have you checked if any murder convictions were had under this law ?

So far I can't find any.
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Please lie again.

Charged, Conviction, Execution

Nathaniel Woods was convicted under the accomplice law. He's now facing death

Charged

Man charged in death of alleged accomplice in brazen daytime home invasion, Arlington Heights police say - Chicago Tribune

Charged, Convicted

Assailant found guilty by Tulsa County jurors of felony murder in accomplice's shooting death by victim | Crime News | tulsaworld.com
 
Rich2018 said:
"40's Suck" was the title of Yaeger's video

He seems to make the case that there are no positive reasons for buying a handgun in 40 caliber (except for low price as they're ditched by owners)

And there are several reasons NOT to guy one.
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Edit: Several reasons not to BUY one.
 
Rich2018 said:
Well if there are no convictions, it would suggest the prosecution have a hard time persuading a jury of it's justification

If we can't get convictions with this law, there's no point having it and it should be scrapped

This is on top of my personal opinion that it is both an unjust and contradictory law.
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IF there are no convictions. Why not let a jury decide?

Fledermaus said:
Charged, Conviction, Execution

Nathaniel Woods was convicted under the accomplice law. He's now facing death

Charged

Man charged in death of alleged accomplice in brazen daytime home invasion, Arlington Heights police say - Chicago Tribune

Charged, Convicted

Assailant found guilty by Tulsa County jurors of felony murder in accomplice's shooting death by victim | Crime News | tulsaworld.com

Feel free to refer these to Rich2018 so he can't lie about not seeing them.
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Fledermaus said:
Charged, Conviction, Execution

Nathaniel Woods was convicted under the accomplice law. He's now facing death

Charged

https://www.chicagotribune.com/subu...0200407-mhgurji635b37hghgalk4cnrdu-story.html

Charged, Convicted

Assailant found guilty by Tulsa County jurors of felony murder in accomplice's shooting death by victim | Crime News | tulsaworld.com

Feel free to refer these to Rich2018 so he can't lie about not seeing them.
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Thanks, I did and am curious to how Rich2018 will respond. IMO, it's a very good law, and in the case presented in this thread where the charged fired his weapon before fleeing the scene, to me shows intent to commit an act of violence which would lead me to find him guilty of the charge if I were on the jury.
 
Individual said:
Thanks, I did and am curious to how Rich2018 will respond. IMO, it's a very good law, and in the case presented in this thread where the charged fired his weapon before fleeing the scene, to me shows intent to commit an act of violence which would lead me to find him guilty of the charge if I were on the jury.
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Have you noticed that whenever he gets caught talking BS he goes back to quoting himself?
 
Fledermaus said:
Have you noticed that whenever he gets caught talking BS he goes back to quoting himself?
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He was placed on my ignore list some time ago, so I only view the posts he makes directly to me.
 
Individual said:
The links in my post #359 to you.
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I don't see any links from you....and even if there were this is a debating site not a link sharing site

So what you "your" imaginary links say and what arguments do you base on that content ?
 
Rich2018 said:
I don't see any links from you....and even if there were this is a debating site not a link sharing site

So what you "your" imaginary links say and what arguments do you base on that content ?
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What's there to debate? This thread presents a news story where a crime in progress came to an end as the result of an armed victim. Two of the three criminals lost their lives as a result, and the third is being charged under an existing law which you don't seem to like.

YOU claimed you are unable to find any instances on the 'Net where anyone has been convicted under this law, and another provided you with links which I passed on to you in my post #359. Ignore them if you wish, but it only lessens your opinion of the law.

The ONLY opinion which counts in this case will be that of the jury when the case comes to trial.
 
Fledermaus said:
Posts #359 and #360...

Why lie?
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There's a pattern. If he thinks he has some "gotchya" or clever snark, he responds to your post (without quoting it). If your post utterly demolishes his and leaves him at a loss, he lies and pretends he doesn't read yours.

Often, after lying that he doesn't read your posts, he will then deliberately demonstrate that he does in a childish display of overt yet cowardly baiting.
 
Individual said:
What's there to debate? This thread presents a news story where a crime in progress came to an end as the result of an armed victim. Two of the three criminals lost their lives as a result, and the third is being charged under an existing law which you don't seem to like.
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He should be charged for things HE or his gang did, not the victim


YOU claimed you are unable to find any instances on the 'Net where anyone has been convicted under this law, and another provided you with links which I passed on to you in my post #359. Ignore them if you wish, but it only lessens your opinion of the law.
The ONLY opinion which counts in this case will be that of the jury when the case comes to trial.
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What links ?
 
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